Nearly 1 in 2 Americans have Fallen into Poverty

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Census data: Half of U.S. poor or low income
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(AP)  WASHINGTON - Squeezed by rising living costs, a record number of Americans â€" nearly 1 in 2 â€" have fallen into poverty or are scraping by on earnings that classify them as low income.


The latest census data depict a middle class that's shrinking as unemployment stays high and the government's safety net frays. The new numbers follow years of stagnating wages for the middle class that have hurt millions of workers and families.


"Safety net programs such as food stamps and tax credits kept poverty from rising even higher in 2010, but for many low-income families with work-related and medical expenses, they are considered too `rich' to qualify," said Sheldon Danziger, a University of Michigan public policy professor who specializes in poverty.


"The reality is that prospects for the poor and the near poor are dismal," he said. "If Congress and the states make further cuts, we can expect the number of poor and low-income families to rise for the next several years."


Video: New data shows poverty at an all-time high
Poverty in America: The faces behind the figures
Most U.S. unemployed no longer receive benefits


Congressional Republicans and Democrats are sparring over legislation that would renew a Social Security payroll tax cut, part of a year-end political showdown over economic priorities that could also trim unemployment benefits, freeze federal pay and reduce entitlement spending.


Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, questioned whether some people classified as poor or low-income actually suffer material hardship. He said that while safety-net programs have helped many Americans, they have gone too far, citing poor people who live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs.


"There's no doubt the recession has thrown a lot of people out of work and incomes have fallen," Rector said. "As we come out of recession, it will be important that these programs promote self-sufficiency rather than dependence and encourage people to look for work."


CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts told the story in November of the Struble family. They are college educated, career-holding members of America's vast middle class. They had a combined annual income of $85,000. But in November of 2009, Todd lost his job, and hasn't had a steady paycheck since.

They now have only an estimated $25 in their savings account, perhaps another $100 in their checking. Click on the player at left to see the full story of America's middle class in decline.

Mayors in 29 cities say more than 1 in 4 people needing emergency food assistance did not receive it. Many middle-class Americans are dropping below the low-income threshold â€" roughly $45,000 for a family of four â€" because of pay cuts, a forced reduction of work hours or a spouse losing a job. Housing and child-care costs are consuming up to half of a family's income.


States in the South and West had the highest shares of low-income families, including Arizona, New Mexico and South Carolina, which have scaled back or eliminated aid programs for the needy. By raw numbers, such families were most numerous in California and Texas, each with more than 1 million.



The struggling Americans include Zenobia Bechtol, 18, in Austin, Texas, who earns minimum wage as a part-time pizza delivery driver. Bechtol and her 7-month-old baby were recently evicted from their bedbug-infested apartment after her boyfriend, an electrician, lost his job in the sluggish economy.


After an 18-month job search, Bechtol's boyfriend now works as a waiter and the family of three is temporarily living with her mother.


"We're paying my mom $200 a month for rent, and after diapers and formula and gas for work, we barely have enough money to spend," said Bechtol, a high school graduate who wants to go to college. "If it weren't for food stamps and other government money for families who need help, we wouldn't have been able to survive."


Since the housing bubble burst, nearly 4 million American homes have been lost to foreclosure. An estimated 1.6 million children will be homeless at some time during the year - 38 percent more than at the start of the recession. As CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy explains, unemployment has driven some families to the southern California desert, where a barren old WWII training ground in the desert has become a place for many to park their troubled lives. Click on the player at left for the full story of "Slab City".


About 97.3 million Americans fall into a low-income category, commonly defined as those earning between 100 and 199 percent of the poverty level, based on a new supplemental measure by the Census Bureau that is designed to provide a fuller picture of poverty. Together with the 49.1 million who fall below the poverty line and are counted as poor, they number 146.4 million, or 48 percent of the U.S. population. That's up by 4 million from 2009, the earliest numbers for the newly developed poverty measure.


The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs. Doing that helped push the number of people below 200 percent of the poverty level up from 104 million, or 1 in 3 Americans, that was officially reported in September.


Broken down by age, children were most likely to be poor or low-income â€" about 57 percent â€" followed by seniors over 65. By race and ethnicity, Hispanics topped the list at 73 percent, followed by blacks, Asians and non-Hispanic whites.


Even by traditional measures, many working families are hurting.


Following the recession that began in late 2007, the share of working families who are low income has risen for three straight years to 31.2 percent, or 10.2 million. That proportion is the highest in at least a decade, up from 27 percent in 2002, according to a new analysis by the Working Poor Families Project and the Population Reference Bureau, a nonprofit research group based in Washington.


Among low-income families, about one-third were considered poor while the remainder â€" 6.9 million â€" earned income just above the poverty line. Many states phase out eligibility for food stamps, Medicaid, tax credit and other government aid programs for low-income Americans as they approach 200 percent of the poverty level.


The majority of low-income families â€" 62 percent â€" spent more than one-third of their earnings on housing, surpassing a common guideline for what is considered affordable. By some census surveys, child-care costs consume close to another one-fifth.


Paychecks for low-income families are shrinking. The inflation-adjusted average earnings for the bottom 20 percent of families have fallen from $16,788 in 1979 to just under $15,000, and earnings for the next 20 percent have remained flat at $37,000. In contrast, higher-income brackets had significant wage growth since 1979, with earnings for the top 5 percent of families climbing 64 percent to more than $313,000.


A survey of 29 cities conducted by the U.S. Conference of Mayors being released Thursday points to a gloomy outlook for those on the lower end of the income scale.


Many mayors cited the challenges of meeting increased demands for food assistance, expressing particular concern about possible cuts to federal programs such as food stamps and WIC, which assists low-income pregnant women and mothers. Unemployment led the list of causes of hunger in cities, followed by poverty, low wages and high housing costs.


Across the 29 cities, about 27 percent of people needing emergency food aid did not receive it. Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., Sacramento, Calif., and Trenton, N.J., were among the cities that pointed to increases in the cost of food and declining food donations, while Mayor Michael McGinn in Seattle cited an unexpected spike in food requests from immigrants and refugees, particularly from Somalia, Burma and Bhutan.


Among those requesting emergency food assistance, 51 percent were in families, 26 percent were employed, 19 percent were elderly and 11 percent were homeless.


"People who never thought they would need food are in need of help," said Mayor Sly James of Kansas City, Mo., who co-chairs a mayors' task force on hunger and homelessness.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57343397/census-data-half-of-u.s-poor-or-low-income/
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RMHoward

Quote from: FayeforCure on December 15, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Census data: Half of U.S. poor or low income
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(AP)  WASHINGTON - Squeezed by rising living costs, a record number of Americans â€" nearly 1 in 2 â€" have fallen into poverty or are scraping by on earnings that classify them as low income.


The latest census data depict a middle class that's shrinking as unemployment stays high and the government's safety net frays. The new numbers follow years of stagnating wages for the middle class that have hurt millions of workers and families.


"Safety net programs such as food stamps and tax credits kept poverty from rising even higher in 2010, but for many low-income families with work-related and medical expenses, they are considered too `rich' to qualify," said Sheldon Danziger, a University of Michigan public policy professor who specializes in poverty.


"The reality is that prospects for the poor and the near poor are dismal," he said. "If Congress and the states make further cuts, we can expect the number of poor and low-income families to rise for the next several years."


Video: New data shows poverty at an all-time high
Poverty in America: The faces behind the figures
Most U.S. unemployed no longer receive benefits


Congressional Republicans and Democrats are sparring over legislation that would renew a Social Security payroll tax cut, part of a year-end political showdown over economic priorities that could also trim unemployment benefits, freeze federal pay and reduce entitlement spending.


Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, questioned whether some people classified as poor or low-income actually suffer material hardship. He said that while safety-net programs have helped many Americans, they have gone too far, citing poor people who live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs.


"There's no doubt the recession has thrown a lot of people out of work and incomes have fallen," Rector said. "As we come out of recession, it will be important that these programs promote self-sufficiency rather than dependence and encourage people to look for work."


CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts told the story in November of the Struble family. They are college educated, career-holding members of America's vast middle class. They had a combined annual income of $85,000. But in November of 2009, Todd lost his job, and hasn't had a steady paycheck since.

They now have only an estimated $25 in their savings account, perhaps another $100 in their checking. Click on the player at left to see the full story of America's middle class in decline.

Mayors in 29 cities say more than 1 in 4 people needing emergency food assistance did not receive it. Many middle-class Americans are dropping below the low-income threshold â€" roughly $45,000 for a family of four â€" because of pay cuts, a forced reduction of work hours or a spouse losing a job. Housing and child-care costs are consuming up to half of a family's income.


States in the South and West had the highest shares of low-income families, including Arizona, New Mexico and South Carolina, which have scaled back or eliminated aid programs for the needy. By raw numbers, such families were most numerous in California and Texas, each with more than 1 million.



The struggling Americans include Zenobia Bechtol, 18, in Austin, Texas, who earns minimum wage as a part-time pizza delivery driver. Bechtol and her 7-month-old baby were recently evicted from their bedbug-infested apartment after her boyfriend, an electrician, lost his job in the sluggish economy.


After an 18-month job search, Bechtol's boyfriend now works as a waiter and the family of three is temporarily living with her mother.


"We're paying my mom $200 a month for rent, and after diapers and formula and gas for work, we barely have enough money to spend," said Bechtol, a high school graduate who wants to go to college. "If it weren't for food stamps and other government money for families who need help, we wouldn't have been able to survive."


Since the housing bubble burst, nearly 4 million American homes have been lost to foreclosure. An estimated 1.6 million children will be homeless at some time during the year - 38 percent more than at the start of the recession. As CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy explains, unemployment has driven some families to the southern California desert, where a barren old WWII training ground in the desert has become a place for many to park their troubled lives. Click on the player at left for the full story of "Slab City".


About 97.3 million Americans fall into a low-income category, commonly defined as those earning between 100 and 199 percent of the poverty level, based on a new supplemental measure by the Census Bureau that is designed to provide a fuller picture of poverty. Together with the 49.1 million who fall below the poverty line and are counted as poor, they number 146.4 million, or 48 percent of the U.S. population. That's up by 4 million from 2009, the earliest numbers for the newly developed poverty measure.


The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs. Doing that helped push the number of people below 200 percent of the poverty level up from 104 million, or 1 in 3 Americans, that was officially reported in September.


Broken down by age, children were most likely to be poor or low-income â€" about 57 percent â€" followed by seniors over 65. By race and ethnicity, Hispanics topped the list at 73 percent, followed by blacks, Asians and non-Hispanic whites.


Even by traditional measures, many working families are hurting.


Following the recession that began in late 2007, the share of working families who are low income has risen for three straight years to 31.2 percent, or 10.2 million. That proportion is the highest in at least a decade, up from 27 percent in 2002, according to a new analysis by the Working Poor Families Project and the Population Reference Bureau, a nonprofit research group based in Washington.


Among low-income families, about one-third were considered poor while the remainder â€" 6.9 million â€" earned income just above the poverty line. Many states phase out eligibility for food stamps, Medicaid, tax credit and other government aid programs for low-income Americans as they approach 200 percent of the poverty level.


The majority of low-income families â€" 62 percent â€" spent more than one-third of their earnings on housing, surpassing a common guideline for what is considered affordable. By some census surveys, child-care costs consume close to another one-fifth.


Paychecks for low-income families are shrinking. The inflation-adjusted average earnings for the bottom 20 percent of families have fallen from $16,788 in 1979 to just under $15,000, and earnings for the next 20 percent have remained flat at $37,000. In contrast, higher-income brackets had significant wage growth since 1979, with earnings for the top 5 percent of families climbing 64 percent to more than $313,000.


A survey of 29 cities conducted by the U.S. Conference of Mayors being released Thursday points to a gloomy outlook for those on the lower end of the income scale.


Many mayors cited the challenges of meeting increased demands for food assistance, expressing particular concern about possible cuts to federal programs such as food stamps and WIC, which assists low-income pregnant women and mothers. Unemployment led the list of causes of hunger in cities, followed by poverty, low wages and high housing costs.


Across the 29 cities, about 27 percent of people needing emergency food aid did not receive it. Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., Sacramento, Calif., and Trenton, N.J., were among the cities that pointed to increases in the cost of food and declining food donations, while Mayor Michael McGinn in Seattle cited an unexpected spike in food requests from immigrants and refugees, particularly from Somalia, Burma and Bhutan.


Among those requesting emergency food assistance, 51 percent were in families, 26 percent were employed, 19 percent were elderly and 11 percent were homeless.


"People who never thought they would need food are in need of help," said Mayor Sly James of Kansas City, Mo., who co-chairs a mayors' task force on hunger and homelessness.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57343397/census-data-half-of-u.s-poor-or-low-income/


Ummm,  thats BS.  When all these poverty stricken Americans give up their smart phones and flat screens, then i will believe they live in poverty.  Until then.

FayeforCure

Quote from: RMHoward on December 16, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: FayeforCure on December 15, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Census data: Half of U.S. poor or low income
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Send to a FriendShare ThisTell Your FriendsTweet ThisTweet ThisMoreShare It. Del.icio.usFacebookStumbleuponNewsvineYahoo bookmarksMixxDiggRedditGoogle BookmarksTwitterLinkedIn The St. Columbanus Church food pantry in Chicago feeds 500 households a week, but some weeks it struggles to keep up with demand. (CBS)

(AP)  WASHINGTON - Squeezed by rising living costs, a record number of Americans â€" nearly 1 in 2 â€" have fallen into poverty or are scraping by on earnings that classify them as low income.


The latest census data depict a middle class that's shrinking as unemployment stays high and the government's safety net frays. The new numbers follow years of stagnating wages for the middle class that have hurt millions of workers and families.


"Safety net programs such as food stamps and tax credits kept poverty from rising even higher in 2010, but for many low-income families with work-related and medical expenses, they are considered too `rich' to qualify," said Sheldon Danziger, a University of Michigan public policy professor who specializes in poverty.


"The reality is that prospects for the poor and the near poor are dismal," he said. "If Congress and the states make further cuts, we can expect the number of poor and low-income families to rise for the next several years."


Video: New data shows poverty at an all-time high
Poverty in America: The faces behind the figures
Most U.S. unemployed no longer receive benefits


Congressional Republicans and Democrats are sparring over legislation that would renew a Social Security payroll tax cut, part of a year-end political showdown over economic priorities that could also trim unemployment benefits, freeze federal pay and reduce entitlement spending.


Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, questioned whether some people classified as poor or low-income actually suffer material hardship. He said that while safety-net programs have helped many Americans, they have gone too far, citing poor people who live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs.


"There's no doubt the recession has thrown a lot of people out of work and incomes have fallen," Rector said. "As we come out of recession, it will be important that these programs promote self-sufficiency rather than dependence and encourage people to look for work."


CBS News correspondent Byron Pitts told the story in November of the Struble family. They are college educated, career-holding members of America's vast middle class. They had a combined annual income of $85,000. But in November of 2009, Todd lost his job, and hasn't had a steady paycheck since.

They now have only an estimated $25 in their savings account, perhaps another $100 in their checking. Click on the player at left to see the full story of America's middle class in decline.

Mayors in 29 cities say more than 1 in 4 people needing emergency food assistance did not receive it. Many middle-class Americans are dropping below the low-income threshold â€" roughly $45,000 for a family of four â€" because of pay cuts, a forced reduction of work hours or a spouse losing a job. Housing and child-care costs are consuming up to half of a family's income.


States in the South and West had the highest shares of low-income families, including Arizona, New Mexico and South Carolina, which have scaled back or eliminated aid programs for the needy. By raw numbers, such families were most numerous in California and Texas, each with more than 1 million.



The struggling Americans include Zenobia Bechtol, 18, in Austin, Texas, who earns minimum wage as a part-time pizza delivery driver. Bechtol and her 7-month-old baby were recently evicted from their bedbug-infested apartment after her boyfriend, an electrician, lost his job in the sluggish economy.


After an 18-month job search, Bechtol's boyfriend now works as a waiter and the family of three is temporarily living with her mother.


"We're paying my mom $200 a month for rent, and after diapers and formula and gas for work, we barely have enough money to spend," said Bechtol, a high school graduate who wants to go to college. "If it weren't for food stamps and other government money for families who need help, we wouldn't have been able to survive."


Since the housing bubble burst, nearly 4 million American homes have been lost to foreclosure. An estimated 1.6 million children will be homeless at some time during the year - 38 percent more than at the start of the recession. As CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy explains, unemployment has driven some families to the southern California desert, where a barren old WWII training ground in the desert has become a place for many to park their troubled lives. Click on the player at left for the full story of "Slab City".


About 97.3 million Americans fall into a low-income category, commonly defined as those earning between 100 and 199 percent of the poverty level, based on a new supplemental measure by the Census Bureau that is designed to provide a fuller picture of poverty. Together with the 49.1 million who fall below the poverty line and are counted as poor, they number 146.4 million, or 48 percent of the U.S. population. That's up by 4 million from 2009, the earliest numbers for the newly developed poverty measure.


The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs. Doing that helped push the number of people below 200 percent of the poverty level up from 104 million, or 1 in 3 Americans, that was officially reported in September.


Broken down by age, children were most likely to be poor or low-income â€" about 57 percent â€" followed by seniors over 65. By race and ethnicity, Hispanics topped the list at 73 percent, followed by blacks, Asians and non-Hispanic whites.


Even by traditional measures, many working families are hurting.


Following the recession that began in late 2007, the share of working families who are low income has risen for three straight years to 31.2 percent, or 10.2 million. That proportion is the highest in at least a decade, up from 27 percent in 2002, according to a new analysis by the Working Poor Families Project and the Population Reference Bureau, a nonprofit research group based in Washington.


Among low-income families, about one-third were considered poor while the remainder â€" 6.9 million â€" earned income just above the poverty line. Many states phase out eligibility for food stamps, Medicaid, tax credit and other government aid programs for low-income Americans as they approach 200 percent of the poverty level.


The majority of low-income families â€" 62 percent â€" spent more than one-third of their earnings on housing, surpassing a common guideline for what is considered affordable. By some census surveys, child-care costs consume close to another one-fifth.


Paychecks for low-income families are shrinking. The inflation-adjusted average earnings for the bottom 20 percent of families have fallen from $16,788 in 1979 to just under $15,000, and earnings for the next 20 percent have remained flat at $37,000. In contrast, higher-income brackets had significant wage growth since 1979, with earnings for the top 5 percent of families climbing 64 percent to more than $313,000.


A survey of 29 cities conducted by the U.S. Conference of Mayors being released Thursday points to a gloomy outlook for those on the lower end of the income scale.


Many mayors cited the challenges of meeting increased demands for food assistance, expressing particular concern about possible cuts to federal programs such as food stamps and WIC, which assists low-income pregnant women and mothers. Unemployment led the list of causes of hunger in cities, followed by poverty, low wages and high housing costs.


Across the 29 cities, about 27 percent of people needing emergency food aid did not receive it. Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., Sacramento, Calif., and Trenton, N.J., were among the cities that pointed to increases in the cost of food and declining food donations, while Mayor Michael McGinn in Seattle cited an unexpected spike in food requests from immigrants and refugees, particularly from Somalia, Burma and Bhutan.


Among those requesting emergency food assistance, 51 percent were in families, 26 percent were employed, 19 percent were elderly and 11 percent were homeless.


"People who never thought they would need food are in need of help," said Mayor Sly James of Kansas City, Mo., who co-chairs a mayors' task force on hunger and homelessness.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57343397/census-data-half-of-u.s-poor-or-low-income/


Ummm,  thats BS.  When all these poverty stricken Americans give up their smart phones and flat screens, then i will believe they live in poverty.  Until then.

Thank you for that random "blame the victim" statement. Any proof behind this random statement, or is this simply a discomfort kneejerk reaction?
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NotNow

From Wikipedia:

"The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States President Lyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964. This legislation was proposed by Johnson in response to a national poverty rate of around nineteen percent. The speech led the United States Congress to pass the Economic Opportunity Act, which established the Office of Economic Opportunity (OEO) to administer the local application of federal funds targeted against poverty."

Can we finally declare the experiment failed?  Massive federal programs have accomplished nothing except to help establish a permanent underclass.

Deo adjuvante non timendum

FayeforCure

Quote from: NotNow on December 16, 2011, 06:30:58 PM
From Wikipedia:

"The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States President Lyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964. This legislation was proposed by Johnson in response to a national poverty rate of around nineteen percent. The speech led the United States Congress to pass the Economic Opportunity Act, which established the Office of Economic Opportunity (OEO) to administer the local application of federal funds targeted against poverty."

Can we finally declare the experiment failed?  Massive federal programs have accomplished nothing except to help establish a permanent underclass.

hmm, could it be that the "massive federal programs" are just not performing as well as the "massive national programs" in Germany and Sweden, where poverty rates are not nearly as high as in the US.

Maybe we just haven't made the fight against poverty a priority, the way other civilized nations have.

The US simply accepts a permanent underclass.........a permanent third world status among 50 % of its population.
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NotNow

Really?  Third world status for 50%?  Officially, 15.1% of Americans have incomes below the arbitrary government poverty line.  And that does not include "food stamps", public housing or Earned Income Credit.  While these citizens do face problems, third world poverty is not one of them.
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FayeforCure

#9
Quote from: NotNow on December 16, 2011, 09:18:17 PM
Really?  Third world status for 50%?  Officially, 15.1% of Americans have incomes below the arbitrary government poverty line.  And that does not include "food stamps", public housing or Earned Income Credit.  While these citizens do face problems, third world poverty is not one of them.

Hmmm, third world poverty is not one of their problems? How about being refused emergency food aide............sounds like a third world situation to me alright!

I would say that I trust the word of the Conference of Mayors in the US far more than yours as it turns out you deliberately wear blinders, and are insensitive to the hunger all around you right here in the good old USA:

QuoteA survey of 29 cities conducted by the U.S. Conference of Mayors being released Thursday points to a gloomy outlook for those on the lower end of the income scale.


Many mayors cited the challenges of meeting increased demands for food assistance, expressing particular concern about possible cuts to federal programs such as food stamps and WIC, which assists low-income pregnant women and mothers. Unemployment led the list of causes of hunger in cities, followed by poverty, low wages and high housing costs.


Across the 29 cities, about 27 percent of people needing emergency food aid did not receive it. Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., Sacramento, Calif., and Trenton, N.J., were among the cities that pointed to increases in the cost of food and declining food donations, while Mayor Michael McGinn in Seattle cited an unexpected spike in food requests from immigrants and refugees, particularly from Somalia, Burma and Bhutan.


Among those requesting emergency food assistance, 51 percent were in families, 26 percent were employed, 19 percent were elderly and 11 percent were homeless.


"People who never thought they would need food are in need of help
," said Mayor Sly James of Kansas City, Mo., who co-chairs a mayors' task force on hunger and homelessness.


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NotNow

Again, statistics.  Emergency food aid is completely different from the poverty we are discussing.  Sudden unemployment with no emergency fund or family willing to assist can place people in such a position while awaiting public assistance.  The fact that some of these people are in families, have children, are elderly, or all of the above should not surprise no one.  Fortunately, this is a relatively rare occurence.  I would also think that those "unable to receive food" were actually just told that certain foods were not available, as happens at our local food bank. 

Requirements and benefits for SNAP (food stamps) can be found here:

http://www.wenourishhope.org/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap

And Faye, no, this is not "third world poverty".
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FayeforCure

#11
Quote from: NotNow on December 16, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
Again, statistics.  Emergency food aid is completely different from the poverty we are discussing.  Sudden unemployment with no emergency fund or family willing to assist can place people in such a position while awaiting public assistance.  The fact that some of these people are in families, have children, are elderly, or all of the above should not surprise no one.  Fortunately, this is a relatively rare occurence.  I would also think that those "unable to receive food" were actually just told that certain foods were not available, as happens at our local food bank. 

Requirements and benefits for SNAP (food stamps) can be found here:

http://www.wenourishhope.org/supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap

And Faye, no, this is not "third world poverty".

Yeah, rare occurance of hunger in America is what Fox news and the Republicans like you to think. Just ignore the problems of the people in favor of coddling the ultra-rich is their motto.

But even sesame street is no longer ignoring the harsh third world realities in the US:

http://www.youtube.com/v/7id5JA4SdEA?

Under the YOYO ideology (You're On Your Own) Republicans would just LOVE to dismantle all (what they sooo fondly refer to as) "entitlements".

Glad you had the decency to call them benefits..........that is if you are lucky to get them in the first place.

Being treated like a criminal (as is so often the case when you apply for these supposed "benefits") in your time of need is humiliating and adds insult to injury.

It's like the social security that you've paid into...............Republicans rather have you wait long enough for you to die so they won't have to pay you a penny of your earned social security benefits.
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RMHoward

Quote from: stephendare on December 16, 2011, 06:13:26 PM
Quote from: RMHoward on December 16, 2011, 05:43:39 PM

Ummm,  thats BS.  When all these poverty stricken Americans give up their smart phones and flat screens, then i will believe they live in poverty.  Until then.

This is the kind of sick fantasizing that makes me uninterested in the opinions of these so called conservative republicans.

Really?  You would like to see Americans living in the kind of squalor that we used to associate with third world nations?

What kind of American are you anyways?

This kind of post makes me literally sick to my stomach.

Well, feel free to go puke all over your occutard buddies if you are sick to your tummy.  As to what kind of American I am?  Im the kind of American that would like to see other Americans live within their means.  I would like to see Americans use some common sense when prioritizing their needs.  I want to see Americans have a little restraint when offered that credit card, home loan, car loan they know they cant afford.  Maybe Americans could look at themselves in the mirror when their lives dont turn out the way they think they should and make changes or demands at home, instead of others.  Maybe give up some of the luxuries in life in exchange for paying those bills they promised to pay (not at gunpoint, by the way).  Etc etc.  Simple enough for you Steph?????  Want me to draw you a diagram??? 

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Quote from: RMHoward on December 17, 2011, 02:25:17 PM
  As to what kind of American I am?  Im the kind of American that would like to see other Americans live within their means.  I would like to see Americans use some common sense when prioritizing their needs.  I want to see Americans have a little restraint when offered that credit card, home loan, car loan they know they cant afford. 

Ah that practical European lifestyle, where people save up to buy a car rather than take out a car loan. Funny how you never do advocate that sensible European lifestyle of small houses and tiny cars.

You do realize that we had such fake "economic growth" because conservatives encouraged consumers to go out and spend don't you? Conservatives knew full well that consumer spending was 70% of GDP, so they did all they could to stimulate consumer spending..........including rolling back consumer protections against predatory lending practices.

First it was Republicans who sold us on easy credit for consumers to keep our economy growing and now they blame the consumers for being in debt?

Just a typical Republican approach of blame the victim in a winner takes all environment.
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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