Del Rio FIRED!

[Dapperdan]

Overstreet,
The Jags only want to upgrade the stadium every few years and they also want to have all the naming rights money instead of share with the city, which was the original agreement. That is only fair right, for this 'corporation'? Now as far as police men and firefighters, they need to give up their hard earned money so that we can have money available for HD screens and sound at the stadium.

[Wacca Pilatka]

I don't think it's fair of us to assume that because Tucker was a defensive coach his whole life, that he will have a conservative, defense-first philosphy.  Obviously Del Rio did, but that's not dispositive.

Some former defensive coordinators have coached offensively prolific teams (Belichick in NE, Dungy in Indianapolis).  Some former offensive coordinators with reputations for innovation have coached conservative, defense-oriented teams (Billick in Baltimore).

We do need a good mentor for Blaine, but not necessarily the head coach.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Start your Head Coach wish list. I know everyone probably has Bill Cowher at the top of their lists.

Not me.

Cowher benefited from having the best defensive coordinator in NFL history at his side, and a very strong front office that has historically drafted well and excels at finding players who fit Pittsburgh's systems.  How much of the Steelers' success can we really attribute to him?

I also fear signing the "proven winner!" expensive coaches who are not necessarily motivated or able to replicate their successes with their former teams after a few years out of the game.  E.g., Ditka with the Saints.

Cowher also gave Kordell Stewart 85 second chances, had a very conservative offensive approach most years, and lost at least four AFC championship games at home.  Despite the winning regular seasons, I've no doubt Jacksonville would have run out of patience with him quickly.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I don't think it's fair of us to assume that because Tucker was a defensive coach his whole life, that he will have a conservative, defense-first philosphy.  Obviously Del Rio did, but that's not dispositive.

Some former defensive coordinators have coached offensively prolific teams (Belichick in NE, Dungy in Indianapolis).  Some former offensive coordinators with reputations for innovation have coached conservative, defense-oriented teams (Billick in Baltimore).

We do need a good mentor for Blaine, but not necessarily the head coach.

Belichick and Dungy also had the priviledge of being coordinators under two HOF head coaches in Parcells and Noll respectively.  I think that has to account for a lot when it comes to learning the nuances of running a team. 

No offense, but Tucker has had JDR & Romeo Crennel as his HC mentors.

[copperfiend]

Start your Head Coach wish list. I know everyone probably has Bill Cowher at the top of their lists.

Not me.

Cowher benefited from having the best defensive coordinator in NFL history at his side, and a very strong front office that has historically drafted well and excels at finding players who fit Pittsburgh's systems.  How much of the Steelers' success can we really attribute to him?

I also fear signing the "proven winner!" expensive coaches who are not necessarily motivated or able to replicate their successes with their former teams after a few years out of the game.  E.g., Ditka with the Saints.

Cowher also gave Kordell Stewart 85 second chances, had a very conservative offensive approach most years, and lost at least four AFC championship games at home.  Despite the winning regular seasons, I've no doubt Jacksonville would have run out of patience with him quickly.

I don't think Cowher is coaching again. But if he does, the salary demands will higher than WW will pay.

And I do agree with what you're saying about him. He was known as a playoff choker until his last season in Pittsburgh. They had home field advantage every other year it seemed like and rarely took advantage of it.

[copperfiend]

Somewhere David Garrard is laughing his head off.

Why?

[comncense]

Yeah I think a good coach surrounds himself with a great coaching staff, but I see your point about Cowher.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

The problem with Cowher is that he'll want full control of personel.  I want GS to stay where he's at for another 3-4 years.  There's lots of potential in his picks and he's hitting a whole lot more than missing.

[comncense]

I really don't care for Gene. It's not even about his small school picks. One, I don't think you can put your focus on finding a person with a squeaky clean history above drafting talent. I get tired of hearing about 'character guys'. We have a bunch of character guys who aren't doing squat on this team as of yet. I just get nervous every NFL Draft as to how we are gonna f' up our draft pick. Additionally, Gene was one of the main people spouting the "We have trust in our WR core". Well we can see how that worked out for us.

[Tacachale]

^I think Gene's defensive picks show there's more to him than that.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I really don't care for Gene. It's not even about his small school picks. One, I don't think you can put your focus on finding a person with a squeaky clean history above drafting talent. I get tired of hearing about 'character guys'. We have a bunch of character guys who aren't doing squat on this team as of yet. I just get nervous every NFL Draft as to how we are gonna f' up our draft pick. Additionally, Gene was one of the main people spouting the "We have trust in our WR core". Well we can see how that worked out for us.

His character guys are not totally defined by not getting into trouble - it's more about how they handled themselves on and off the field.  Most of his picks were the captains of their team.  Most have demonstrated a strong work ethic.  Most have been the guys with something to prove.   [Vic-mode]  It's a crystal-ball business.  There are no guarantees [/vic-mode]  He's picking high-character guys based on performance, interviews and metrics, and I see that as a good thing.  They're not necessarily 'choir boys', but they're definitely not going to quit on the team.  Look how the team is still fighting at 3-8....  That says something to me, and with a little more focus on the offense, I think that winning is right around the corner.

[comncense]

I'm just saying I'd feel comfortable if the GM was making picks based on talent first. Of course you don't want to draft someone that has been in and out of jail, drug problems or something of that nature. I compare the Jaguars drafting with how the Orlando Magic draft. You can almost count on the Magic making some off the radar pick every year. We (The Jaguars) just seem to miss the target majority of the time in the draft.

[copperfiend]

I really don't care for Gene. It's not even about his small school picks. One, I don't think you can put your focus on finding a person with a squeaky clean history above drafting talent. I get tired of hearing about 'character guys'. We have a bunch of character guys who aren't doing squat on this team as of yet. I just get nervous every NFL Draft as to how we are gonna f' up our draft pick. Additionally, Gene was one of the main people spouting the "We have trust in our WR core". Well we can see how that worked out for us.

He completely rebuilt the roster. He took the defense from one of the worst in the league to one of the best. His future is tied to the play of Gabbert. I have no doubt that WR will be the primary focus off this offseason. I just hope we somehow have a shot at Blackmon.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I'm just saying I'd feel comfortable if the GM was making picks based on talent first. Of course you don't want to draft someone that has been in and out of jail, drug problems or something of that nature. I compare the Jaguars drafting with how the Orlando Magic draft. You can almost count on the Magic making some off the radar pick every year. We (The Jaguars) just seem to miss the target majority of the time in the draft.

I'll play.  Go back and look at the '09 draft and give us your opinion on who we really missed on.

[copperfiend]

I'm just saying I'd feel comfortable if the GM was making picks based on talent first. Of course you don't want to draft someone that has been in and out of jail, drug problems or something of that nature. I compare the Jaguars drafting with how the Orlando Magic draft. You can almost count on the Magic making some off the radar pick every year. We (The Jaguars) just seem to miss the target majority of the time in the draft.

Mel Kiper blasted Smith for taking Monroe over Crabtree but it sure looks like a good move now.

He got blasted for taking Alualu in the top 10 but he has been a damn good player since day one.