SR 9B Costs!

[tufsu1]

correct...the partial interchange will only be for traffic to/from the north....the southern half that includes an extension of the road down to Racetrack comes later....and it is not an SIS project, so it won't be very high on FDOT priorities....which means local $ will likely need to be found.

[jandar]

Ock, its not just Orange Park traffic, its Mandarin/Orange Park traffic that backs things up.

Why they don't institute a red light feature (ramp meter) on the on ramps like in Atlanta is beyond me (all of 295/9A could use this)

[Jdog]

All told, when 9B is finally complete, are you all thinking the $200 million range?

[fsujax]

sounds about right, what will be the total mileage of the project?

[Jdog]

I think there is a 7.5 mile or so estimate...

[thelakelander]

That comes out to roughly $27 million a mile, which puts the cost in the range of LRT.

[fsujax]

just imagine what sort of outcry there would be if we were spending that on a transit project!

[Jdog]

That last short extension will be costly.  Racetrack Road will be realigned.  Ultimately St Johns CR 2209 will be feeding into 9B at Racetrack...this I imagine has to add some kind of overpass interchange set-up...further, you could add the costs of the overpass / interchange / service roads that will be built at 2209 and 210 (the existing Publix on CR 210 near Cimmarone) a mile and a half south...maybe over $30 million per mile?

[tufsu1]

That comes out to roughly $27 million a mile, which puts the cost in the range of LRT.

well the flyover ramps are in the range fo $25-$40 million each these days...and you'll have at least 2 on this project (at 9A and at I-95).

[thelakelander]

^No doubt.  You saw how the TU responded to the mobility plan's Riverside Streetcar that got tied into Mayor Brown's downtown transition team committee's report.  That 3.5-mile project would only be around $10 to $14 million per mile and it's supposed to be funded by the mobility fee 100%.  We build flyovers that cost more than that and no one questions the validity or return of investment on those projects.  We have our work cut out for us.

[mtraininjax]

Why they don't institute a red light feature (ramp meter) on the on ramps like in Atlanta is beyond me (all of 295/9A could use this)

Because that would mean we would need a new expansion of government at a time when we are trying to contract government, not expand it. We don't have traffic like Orlando or Atlanta, so why waste money on it?

[fsujax]

agree. there is no need for ramp metering here.

[Jdog]

I think that's about right...

[peestandingup]

That comes out to roughly $27 million a mile, which puts the cost in the range of LRT.

Sometimes cheaper. Austin's cost $105 Million & is 32 miles long. And the cost of just the initial phase of this road would pretty much build a vintage streetcar line in our entire core as well.

This city's priorities are completely screwed. Yes, where's the outcry?? Because I guarantee you if this were being spent on public transit, we'd never hear the end of it.

[thelakelander]

Here are some random maps and aerials showing 9B.






more pics at: http://www.sr9b.com/sr9b/AboutUs.aspx