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Started by 02roadking, October 17, 2011, 08:22:01 PM

Shwaz

#270
Whadda Debacle!


Urban Myers comments about running the spread in the NFL... he sounds just as dumb as the entire day programming on TimXTim XL

Anyone who understands the most fundamental difference between NFL & NCAA football  truly understands why this is such an idiotic argument.

There are 238 NCAA teams between the 1-A & AA divisions. Most of these teams carry 125 players each on their roster.

The youngest developing athletes coming out of high school are split amongst these teams. That's 30,000 individual players. The talent range of these players is extremely broad.

Every year the NFL drafts 225 players from this pool of 30K. The biggest, fastest and most talented are selected, many of which won't make it through their full initial contract period.

Back to NCAA & the spread concept... This style of offense is built to open running lanes for the team’s offense players… specifically the QB -  College QB's have a talent for running through these lanes and exploiting slower defensive linemen & line backers. College teams win games this way and it’s arguably become the predominant style of offense.

Fast forward to the NFL where the cream of the talent pool have settled... you'll find big linemen built even bigger & stronger through pro-style conditioning and these guys are just as fast as the average NCAA defensive back.

Spread the line scrimmage, open a lane for the QB in the NFL and you'll probably end his career during his rookie season… and no matter how popular this continues to be in college â€" it will not translate into the NFL due to talent level of the players drafted.

Every year it seems these guys are bigger & faster than the year before. I remember when you would hear people say “Did you hear he ran 4.5 - 40?” Now 4.5 speed won’t even get you into the first round and even the gigantors are running 4.6 times @ 290 pounds!

Tim Tebow was a great player in the spread and I agree he played well against the Steelers in the playoffs. But… if you employ the spread offense for him this year... with Mario Williams lining up on the other side 2x a year.. Tim will be coming home soon... in a body bag.
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Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 29, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
While I'm piling it on....

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Tebow, the former University of Florida standout who has become known for his game-day prayers and other displays of his faith, was recently traded from the Denver Broncos to the New York Jets.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2012-03-29/story/tim-tebow-speak-lawrenceville-ga-church#ixzz1qXKJ914K

This little blurb taken from the TU has a nice little zing to it.  Known for quarterbacking skill, passing ability, reading the defense, go through reciever progressions prayer & display of faith. 

I need to stop hating.

This is the most best Ive heard yet. The NFL is supposed to be different, and tougher than college ball. Thats the whole point. Only the best of the best come to the NFL, and some of them dont even survive. The NFL switching to a spread offense is like asking a college to teach a high school ciriculum. POINTLESS
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Adam W

Quote from: Shwaz on March 29, 2012, 03:58:21 PM
Whadda Debacle!


Urban Myers comments about running the spread in the NFL... he sounds just as dumb as the entire day programming on TimXTim XL

Anyone who understands the most fundamental difference between NFL & NCAA football  truly understands why this is such an idiotic argument.

There are 238 NCAA teams between the 1-A & AA divisions. Most of these teams carry 125 players each on their roster.

The youngest developing athletes coming out of high school are split amongst these teams. That's 30,000 individual players. The talent range of these players is extremely broad.

Every year the NFL drafts 225 players from this pool of 30K. The biggest, fastest and most talented are selected, many of which won't make it through their full initial contract period.

Back to NCAA & the spread concept... This style of offense is built to open running lanes for the team’s offense players… specifically the QB -  College QB's have a talent for running through these lanes and exploiting slower defensive linemen & line backers. College teams win games this way and it’s arguably become the predominant style of offense.

Fast forward to the NFL where the cream of the talent pool have settled... you'll find big linemen built even bigger & stronger through pro-style conditioning and these guys are just as fast as the average NCAA defensive back.

Spread the line scrimmage, open a lane for the QB in the NFL and you'll probably end his career during his rookie season… and no matter how popular this continues to be in college â€" it will not translate into the NFL due to talent level of the players drafted.

Every year it seems these guys are bigger & faster than the year before. I remember when you would hear people say “Did you hear he ran 4.5 - 40?” Now 4.5 speed won’t even get you into the first round and even the gigantors are running 4.6 times @ 290 pounds!

Tim Tebow was a great player in the spread and I agree he played well against the Steelers in the playoffs. But… if you employ the spread offense for him this year... with Mario Williams lining up on the other side 2x a year.. Tim will be coming home soon... in a body bag.

Next thing you know, they'll start running that wishbone/quarterback option that was so popular with NCAA teams in the 80s. Good way to kill a QB.

I-10east

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 29, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
While I'm piling it on....

Quote
Tebow, the former University of Florida standout who has become known for his game-day prayers and other displays of his faith, was recently traded from the Denver Broncos to the New York Jets.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2012-03-29/story/tim-tebow-speak-lawrenceville-ga-church#ixzz1qXKJ914K

This little blurb taken from the TU has a nice little zing to it.  Known for quarterbacking skill, passing ability, reading the defense, go through reciever progressions prayer & display of faith. 

I need to stop hating.

LMAO! The truth is the truth, and sometimes, it's hard for some to accept the truth, due to other biases (of course around here, we obviously know what those biases are).

Non-RedNeck Westsider

I think that this would be a good move for us as well.  We will lose the tarp stigma and still be able to accomodate the larger crowds for the GA/FL game, by creating another terraced deck (so they can add the extra seating) over the North EZ.  Keep it in the 'famly fun zone theme' and make it accessible for all, unlike the terrace suites, and move the honor sections from the endzone to the 4 corners.

QuoteRedskins remove 4,000 seats from FedEx Field
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 3, 2012, 8:03 AM EDT

The Washington Post reports that the Redskins are again reducing the size of FedEx Field, with the removal of 4,000 additional seats.

The team says the reduction of seats will make room for an upper level “party deck” and the renovation of the fifth-floor suite areas, which will give fans a better experience at the stadium.

But there will be fewer fans experiencing Redskins home games. In 2010 the capacity at FedEx Field was 91,000, in 2011 it was 83,000 and this season it will be 79,000.

There was a time when there was virtually no limit to the number of tickets the Redskins could sell, but that time is in the past. The Redskins have yet to make the playoffs in the four seasons since Joe Gibbs left, and they missed the playoffs in 10 of the 11 seasons since between the two Gibbs coaching tenures. That kind of losing frustrates even the most enthusiastic of fan bases.

Maybe Robert Griffin III is the man to change that.
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Kaiser Soze

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on April 03, 2012, 09:15:47 AM
I think that this would be a good move for us as well.  We will lose the tarp stigma and still be able to accomodate the larger crowds for the GA/FL game, by creating another terraced deck (so they can add the extra seating) over the North EZ.  Keep it in the 'famly fun zone theme' and make it accessible for all, unlike the terrace suites, and move the honor sections from the endzone to the 4 corners.

QuoteRedskins remove 4,000 seats from FedEx Field
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 3, 2012, 8:03 AM EDT

The Washington Post reports that the Redskins are again reducing the size of FedEx Field, with the removal of 4,000 additional seats.

The team says the reduction of seats will make room for an upper level “party deck” and the renovation of the fifth-floor suite areas, which will give fans a better experience at the stadium.

But there will be fewer fans experiencing Redskins home games. In 2010 the capacity at FedEx Field was 91,000, in 2011 it was 83,000 and this season it will be 79,000.

There was a time when there was virtually no limit to the number of tickets the Redskins could sell, but that time is in the past. The Redskins have yet to make the playoffs in the four seasons since Joe Gibbs left, and they missed the playoffs in 10 of the 11 seasons since between the two Gibbs coaching tenures. That kind of losing frustrates even the most enthusiastic of fan bases.

Maybe Robert Griffin III is the man to change that.

I'm confused.  You think the Jags should create more seating???

Tacachale

^I assume he means we could remove seating for a party deck, and then add seating for FL-GA.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Remove the majority of the seats in the upper north endzone and create a 'family deck', that can be modified with the removable stadium seating for GA/FLA, move the honor kids that normally sit there to the 4 tarped quadrants.
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duvaldude08

#278
I see teams are finding creative ways to avoid blackouts. We need to find a way as well to deal with our capacity. You have a great idea NWR. And I just googled and found out this is thier SECOND time reducing capcity of Fedex Field. Its really funny how this goes under the radar but Jacksonville is ripped for having tarps.  ::)
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tufsu1

the Redskins stadium was orignially built to hold around 80,000 fans...about 10,000 seats were added later...so its pretty easy to take them away

and, btw, we already have a party deck / temporary seat thing....about 5,000 bleacher seats are added to the south end zone of the stadium for the FL /GA game

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: tufsu1 on April 03, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
the Redskins stadium was orignially built to hold around 80,000 fans...about 10,000 seats were added later...so its pretty easy to take them away

and, btw, we already have a party deck / temporary seat thing....about 5,000 bleacher seats are added to the south end zone of the stadium for the FL /GA game

Yep.  But it's not GA.  My suggestion would incorporate something similar, keeping the family theme in the N EZ.  I didn't put any grand thought into it, just a shot from the hip on how to remove the tarps, keep the capacity needed for the GB & GA/FL.
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Keith-N-Jax

Good idea probably not going to happen unless a new stadium is built. I understand the negative stigma behind the tarps but people really need to get over that. Put a winning product on the field and fill the seats that are not covered. Let's start there!!!!

duvaldude08

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on April 03, 2012, 04:54:42 PM
Good idea probably not going to happen unless a new stadium is built. I understand the negative stigma behind the tarps but people really need to get over that. Put a winning product on the field and fill the seats that are not covered. Let's start there!!!!

Yup you got it Keith. BTW, I just read the Colts are looking to brining in BYRON LEFTWICH to mentor/tutor Andy Luck. I just threw up in my mouth. LOL
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

How's Stanton taking the news?
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mtraininjax

QuoteI assume he means we could remove seating for a party deck, and then add seating for FL-GA.

Why don't we sell the stadium to Khan and let him make the decisions? After all the stadium is only 84000 for one game a year, This way the Jags, the major user, can take over management, repairs, and upgrades. Then we only have to blame Khan for any issues, instead of City of Jacksonville Public Works and the Mayor.

We could lose the Upper East and allow Khan to double up on boxes for the east side and come up with some creative ideas for Upper East.
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