Entire Antarctic Shelf splitting away from Continent.

[Lunican]

So you have no idea whats going on.

[Charleston native]

Lunican, are you trying on purpose to be this obtuse?

Like I said, it's like trying to have a conversation with a cultist. River, I have to say that you've got great patience and tenacity with the Climate Changers. Making sense of their logic drives me insane.

[RiversideGator]

So you have no idea whats going on.

No, you are being intentionally obtuse.

[Lunican]

So you both post graphs showing that climate change is occurring, then deny it is occurring and call everyone else 'climate changers'.

[gatorback]

Maybe somebody miss read something.  We are asking you to talk to a climatologist not a cosmetologist.   One cuts your hair and probably is giving you misinformation on climate change.  The other is in the Earth sciences disciple and studies the weather.  If you really want to get into it, talk to geophysicist into atmospheric science.  Because, if you talk to anybody, other then a hair cutter, they’re going to tell you the earth is cooling but overall trend is warming. 

[gatorback]

That the models we were all supposed to be so concerned about have not accurately predicted the present or near past.  Hence their predictive powers vis a vis the future are quite in doubt.

Do you smoke pot for a living?  Seriously, that does not make sense man.  Maybe your cosmetologist is getting "models" confused.  We're not talking about Claudia Schiffer or Twiggy, although I do doubt their predictives powers, we're talking about how something works.

People in science don't use models to predict the future.  We use models to show how things have worked in the past based on evidence.  And the evidence we have shows the Earth is getting warmer.

[BridgeTroll]

People in science don't use models (how something works, or patterns) to predict the future.

Yes... they do...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_weather_prediction

[gatorback]

If you call a weatherman a scientist then yes.  Meteorologist use models to predict the weather but let’s face it, they’re almost always wrong.  I’m wasn’t talking about predicting weather, I’m talking about predicting climate.  There is a difference you know.

[RiversideGator]

So you both post graphs showing that climate change is occurring, then deny it is occurring and call everyone else 'climate changers'.

Let's not play verbal games, lunican.  Climate change always occurs.  I am stating that the predicted man-made global warming is not occurring.  Also, temperatures have not risen and in fact have fallen since the peak of 1998.  I dont know how to make it any clearer than that.

[gatorback]

So you both post graphs showing that climate change is occurring, then deny it is occurring and call everyone else 'climate changers'.

Let's not play verbal games, lunican.  Climate change always occurs.  I am stating that the predicted man-made global warming is not occurring.  Also, temperatures have not risen and in fact have fallen since the peak of 1998.  I dont know how to make it any clearer than that.

If your cosmetologist says it then it must be true.

[RiversideGator]

your post itself proves the point.

Which point was that again?

Incidentally, I am neither a restauranteur nor an erstwhile specimen of the variety at present.

I guess it would be fair to say then that Boomtown did not serve "food".

And I have actually spent time talking to the primary sources in this argument whereas you apparently havent spoken to a living climatologist at all.  Its pretty easy you know.  That is, if you were actually interested in the truth rather than hearing gas pass from your body.

Who did you speak with?

You just call them, leave a message, and/or email a list of questions you might have.

Most of them are glad to discuss the issue with you.

I suggest it to you in all good faith.

I suggest in all good faith that you call Dr. Roy Spencer.

[RiversideGator]

So you both post graphs showing that climate change is occurring, then deny it is occurring and call everyone else 'climate changers'.

Let's not play verbal games, lunican.  Climate change always occurs.  I am stating that the predicted man-made global warming is not occurring.  Also, temperatures have not risen and in fact have fallen since the peak of 1998.  I dont know how to make it any clearer than that.

If your cosmetologist says it then it must be true.

What are you talking about?  Are you trying to make a coherent point?

[gatorback]

your post itself proves the point.

Which point was that again?

Incidentally, I am neither a restauranteur nor an erstwhile specimen of the variety at present.

I guess it would be fair to say then that Boomtown did not serve "food".

And I have actually spent time talking to the primary sources in this argument whereas you apparently havent spoken to a living climatologist at all.  Its pretty easy you know.  That is, if you were actually interested in the truth rather than hearing gas pass from your body.

Who did you speak with?

You just call them, leave a message, and/or email a list of questions you might have.

Most of them are glad to discuss the issue with you.

I suggest it to you in all good faith.

I suggest in all good faith that you call Dr. Roy Spencer.

Is he your stylist?

[RiversideGator]

your post itself proves the point.

Which point was that again?

Incidentally, I am neither a restauranteur nor an erstwhile specimen of the variety at present.

I guess it would be fair to say then that Boomtown did not serve "food".

And I have actually spent time talking to the primary sources in this argument whereas you apparently havent spoken to a living climatologist at all.  Its pretty easy you know.  That is, if you were actually interested in the truth rather than hearing gas pass from your body.

Who did you speak with?

You just call them, leave a message, and/or email a list of questions you might have.

Most of them are glad to discuss the issue with you.

I suggest it to you in all good faith.

I suggest in all good faith that you call Dr. Roy Spencer.

Is he your stylist?

Are you a stylist?   

[gatorback]

I dabble with it.  But, I'm more of a scientist.