Entire Antarctic Shelf splitting away from Continent.

[Lunican]

So the genealogical record is 4000 years + 2000 years to present?

[Driven1]

So the genealogical record is 4000 years + 2000 years to present?

correct.

[BridgeTroll]

Well... I looked it up.  Here is the argument for 6000 years.  Every segment is extremely refutable... Enjoy...

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/earthage.html

[Lunican]

Good link. That guy has an answer for everything!

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YhsZcxnwLB4

[RiversideGator]

More proof of global cooling:

Rare snow in Australia:

Big chill hits Southeast Queensland

Article from: The Courier-Mail

Robyn Ironside and Brian Williams

July 29, 2008 07:50am

BRISBANE'S big chill continued this morning as the apparent temperature dived to a biting 1.7C - and tomorrow is forecast to get even colder.

The mercury sank to 7.4C at Brisbane Airport in the early hours, but the wind-chill factor meant it felt more than 6C colder.

"The southwesterly winds which make it feel colder than it actually is when you're outside," Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Bryan Rolstone said.

He said tomorrow's actual temperatures were likely to be colder still.

"Brisbane will get to four or five degrees and the western suburbs should get down to zero and have plenty of frost about," he said.

Meanwhile, clear skies greeted residents of Stanthorpe this morning - signalling an end to yesterday's light snow.

Mr Rolstone said it was unlikely the Granite Belt would see more snow this winter - but there was plenty of frost about.

"We had just enough moisture yesterday for snowfall, sleet and some thunderstorms but that's dropped out of the airstream now," Mr Rolstone said.

"What we'll see now is drier weather and extensive frost over inland areas."

Although Applethorpe remained in positive territory at 0.6C yesterday, the apparent temperature was a freezing -3.8C.

Dairy farmer Wes Judd of Yangan, near Warwick, was yesterday moving about 350 head of cattle into shelter yesterday, as freezing conditions hit his farm.

"It's pretty cold," he said at noon. "I haven't taken my coat and beanie off yet."

"I just wish it would go away but it's just one of those days where you just have to grin and bear it."

Stanthorpe residents said they were sorry to see the snow go.

"It was nice to see it fall but it was basically only the outer skirts of town," said local newsagent Louise Bentley.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24085970-952,00.html

And coldest temperature since 1982 recorded in Adelaide, Australia:

Icy wings delay planes
28/07/2008 5:21:00 PM
The city's coldest July night since 1982 saw three flights delayed at Adelaide Airport this morning due to ice on the planes' wings.

The Bureau of Meteorology recorded the overnight minimum at just 0.7 degrees Celsius at Kent Town, and minus 1.7 at Parafield.

Three flights headed for Perth, Melbourne and Sydney were scheduled to leave about 7am, but were delayed by more than an hour as airport staff waited for the ice to thaw.

Airport managing director Phil Baker said most airlines did not have de-icing equipment in Adelaide because it was so rarely needed.

About 400 passengers were caught up in the delay.

http://www.independentweekly.com.au/news/local/news/general/icy-wings-delay-planes/1228504.aspx

[RiversideGator]

Still more signs of global cooling:

Decade has had fewest 90-degree days since 1930

By Tom Skilling
    August 13, 2008

August is the wettest and often the muggiest month of the year. Yet, summer heat continues in short supply, continuing a trend that has dominated much of the 21st Century's opening decade. There have been only 162 days 90 degrees or warmer at Midway Airport over the period from 2000 to 2008. That's by far the fewest 90-degree temperatures in the opening nine years of any decade on record here since 1930.

This summer's highest reading to date has been just 91 degrees. That's unusual. Since 1928, only one yearâ€"2000â€"has failed to record a higher warm-season temperature by Aug. 13.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-tom-skilling-explainer-13aug13,0,918946.story

[gatorback]

And what do you think of the record record highs?  Over 8,000 record highs this year. 

I guess compared to the record lows, some 3,000 I think, the record highs have it. 

I guess the Chicago tribune loves the advertisement paid for by big oil.

[Charleston native]

Records are made to be broken. All that provides is more sensationalist news to peddle the man-made global warming hoax. I see that the Weather Channel has now hired Billy Nye to provide more propaganda for "living green".

You do know that temperatures can fluctuate from one location to another...even in locations as far apart as 100 yards? So what was measured as a record at one measuring station might otherwise be a different reading if the temperature was measured at a different location within the same area.

"You've just got to believe in it man...we're hurting the planet because instead of it being 97 degrees, it's 99 degrees..." Aye kurumba.

[gatorback]

Global Land Temperature Warmest On Record In March 2008   sooooooooooooooooo,
how come so many poeople say we are cooling when it's the hottest ever?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080418112341.htm

OH.  I get.  That's what cooling is. 

[BridgeTroll]

One of my questions is... Why do we trust temperature measurements made prior to 1900?  My belief is that they were not accurate.  Standardization of air temperature measurements was only just beginning at that time.  In addition the instruments used to measure those temperatures can hardly be described as accurate by todays standards...

For example...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevenson_screen

[gatorback]

I'm thinking we've been near standard since the middle 1700's.  But, let's suppose you're right and that there wasn't a "standard" for measuring.  It's still hot as hell out.  Hotter then ever. 

[BridgeTroll]

I'm thinking we've been near standard since the middle 1700's. 

You are refering to the instrument used to measure air temperature... I am refering to the method of measurement.  Hotter than ever is meaningless if the "ever" measurements were not made using the same standard as today.  Even if accurate since 1700 are you saying that 3 centuries of data is enough to say hotter than ever??

[RiversideGator]

Global Land Temperature Warmest On Record In March 2008   sooooooooooooooooo,
how come so many poeople say we are cooling when it's the hottest ever?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080418112341.htm

OH.  I get.  That's what cooling is. 

Ever heard of the heat island effect?  Many of these temperature stations were previously out in the country and are now in the middle of towns.

[Charleston native]

I know one of the temperature stations is located at an urban airport, with the gauge located next to an A/C unit. I saw the picture.