The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

pierre

Quote from: RattlerGator on December 06, 2016, 07:27:25 AM
Thank goodness, because I definitely don't want Tom Coughlin as head coach.

We need an offense guy, we need him to settle Blake down. I still believe in Blake, bigtime, but our scheme doesn't seem dynamic at all and his skillset is being wasted.

That is where I am as well. I think we saw some flashes last year, and the fact that there really are not any top QB prospects in the draft this year.

With the way the defense has played the second half of the season, the Jaguars just need to find even a mediocre offense to win some games.

Wacca Pilatka

If there's any silver lining on offense, and this is a stretch, the offensive line has looked better since Hackett replaced Olson.  Giving up only one sack to Denver was certainly better than I anticipated (though the sack came at the worst possible time).
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JeffreyS

Until The "Blake" problem is solved the rest is inconsequential.
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Keith-N-Jax

Quote from: RattlerGator on December 06, 2016, 07:27:25 AM
Thank goodness, because I definitely don't want Tom Coughlin as head coach.

We need an offense guy, we need him to settle Blake down. I still believe in Blake, bigtime, but our scheme doesn't seem dynamic at all and his skillset is being wasted.



You still think there's hope for BB5? I hope so, I thought for sure he was the guy, but he certainly has lost more games with his pick 6's

RattlerGator

You still think there's hope for BB5?

Yes, I do. But the interceptions have exasperated the heck out of me.

The pick 6's, however, drive me freaking crazy and are a huge, huge mark against Blake. But when I look at historic NFL passing leaders, including some who had issues with interceptions, I see some pretty damn good passers.

Again, they should have used Blake more in the Tyrod Taylor fashion, can we agree on that? Isn't he clearly much more dynamic and effective utilizing some RPO (run-pass-option) looks?

Blake clearly plays better when he moves, so move him dammit. Marqise is coming into his own, and Allen Robinson is still getting mauled but that has to change sooner or later, right? Dante is working out the kinks from his injury and better learning the craft of rush end, Jalen has been fantastic and we're going to get much, much more out of Myles Jack.

Bring in an offense guy. If it isn't Lane Kiffin, I love Josh McDaniel. In fact, I may prefer Josh McDaniel. But get us some damn creativity on offense that will score some freaking points!

Keith-N-Jax

Yes they stated this on the Jags radio shows, let Blake be Blake

pierre

One reason I would not mind seeing Kyle Shanahan as potential head coach.

He's had a productive offense everywhere he has been. And managed to get career years out of mediocre quarterbacks like Matt Schaub and RGIII.

This year under Shanahan, Matt Ryan is an MVP candidate.

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 07, 2016, 01:09:37 PM
Yes they stated this on the Jags radio shows, let Blake be Blake

He also throws noticeably zippier and more accurate passes on the run
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Snufflee

The problem with letting "Blake be Blake" is that it doesn't work long term in the NFL, see RG3 and Kapernick, it is easy for defenses to adjust to QB's that continually have to roll out to be effective, the biggest issue to this play style is subjecting BB5 to massive hits since he is now a "runner" outside the tackle box, the other is that defenses now only have to cover 1/3 to 1/2 of the field, this works in the NCAA since the majority of players are not NFL caliber.
And so it goes

RattlerGator

Neither of those guys have Blake's body.

Listen, he's a big ole boy, okay? And he can really, really run.

More importantly, the RPO stuff doesn't have to involve Blake running often. He just has to be a legitimate THREAT to run. That makes it effective, *and* it gets him moving. Let Blake create some chaos on the field. That was one of the under-appreciated gifts that helped Tim Tebow defy the odds, if not the stats. Blake is more gifted than Tim, admittedly, but his gifts are being severely under-utilized and he's being forced into a straitjacket that simply doesn't work for him.

Chaos on the football field helps the offense, predictability helps the defense. We are far, far too predictable on offense and have been since Blake arrived.


Wacca Pilatka

What I had in mind was just letting Blake roll out and throw on the run more often, not letting him get clobbered up and down the field a la RG3 and Kaepernick or overusing the scramble.

He still has to improve his accuracy, especially on crossing patterns.  (And his discretion, though the first pick last week was probably on Robinson.)  Rollout wouldn't be a panacea.

But as a historical allegory, I'm reminded of John Elway's third season.  After a disastrous rookie year, Elway showed marked improvement in 1984, then regressed in 1985 - shaky accuracy, 23 interceptions.  Around the 11th week of 1985, the Broncos deliberately started rolling him out more often because he was more accurate and mechanically sound throwing on the run at that juncture in his career.  It helped him rebuild some confidence and he was a lot more effective, and less turnover prone, from the pocket in '86.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

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remc86007

I think bringing Coughlin back would be a smart financial decision for Shad even if the team doesn't dramatically improve. I think older Jags fans, that have perhaps become indifferent towards the team, would come out of the woodwork to relive the glory days.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

I love the idea of bring Tom C back into an executive type position, but I personally don't want to see him to be our coach.  Sure, I think it would draw a little interest from the 'back in the day' crowd, but even if Jeff Fisher - the most hated coach to Jags fans - coached us to a 10-6 / 12-4 record and had us in the playoffs each season, he'd get a pass.  I know it's cliche, but winning cures all ills.

And to be quite honest, I seriously wouldn't be surprised if Gus is back for next year.  (Collective groan in 3...2....) 

Last year, the offense kept us in games and the defense was horrible.  Gus went back to focusing on what got him the job in the first place, and this year, the defense is keeping us in games and the offense is horrible.  For all of his faults, Gus has managed to stay the course message-wise and even with his abominable record, he still hasn't seen the team implode. 

As ridiculous as it sounds,  leaving Gus as the HC would allow the team to bring in a young OC without subjecting him to the instant pressure of having to win immediately.  He'd get a year or two and a draft to put his stamp on the offense with the backing of a top 10 defense.   And Gus would have to stand at the podium and take the heat if things aren't working. 




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Keith-N-Jax

No way Gus is back, he's just not a good coach, team lacks discipline, focus, toughness, etc. Its not all his fault but I think its time to end the Gus Bus.