The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

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Quote from: tufsu1 on June 07, 2013, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on June 07, 2013, 05:15:56 PM
Needless to say, it's Khan's, not the NFL's, decision to move a team somewhere.

actually that's not true....Khan might want to move somewhere, but the NFL would have to approve it

WHERE, or does anybody know WHERE Khan might want to move?
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17 years left on an ironclad stadium lease.

$10 million in upgrades to our locker rooms and weight rooms.

Plans underway to install $50 million video boards, the largest in the league.

A new locally-inspired logo, and aggressive marketing in surrounding regions.

Yep, sure sounds like they've got one foot out the door to me...

I-10east

Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 07, 2013, 09:09:57 PM
Yeah I read a bunch of crap the other day and decided not to go out of my way to acknowledge it.

100+ I wasn't gonna even entertain it. That CBS Sports article on page 276 is out of context. While it's true that Roger Goodell reportedly wants the Jags to play two games in London, one of those games would be an away game, so Jax will still have seven home games. I don't care what Roger Goodell, Robert Kraft, Jason La Canfora, or any of these so-and-so's say, they aren't controlling the decision of Shad Khan and whether the Jags stay here or not. There's alot of speculatory BS floating around with our 'friends' in the national media. I really hate this whole London crap from the get-go,  it's stupid IMO; Just when we started a lil' sellout streak too. No I'm not buying that 'more exposure' argument; Yeah, it's 'exposing' us alright, to the national media imbeciles. Say what you what to about Wayne Weaver, but this is exactly why he didn't want to Jags to share ANY games with ANY city.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/04/confusion-arises-over-plans-for-jaguars-in-london/

copperfiend

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This is just Los Angeles 2.0. How many years were we supposed to be moving to L.A.?

duvaldude08

Quote from: I-10east on June 08, 2013, 07:09:08 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 07, 2013, 09:09:57 PM
Yeah I read a bunch of crap the other day and decided not to go out of my way to acknowledge it.

100+ I wasn't gonna even entertain it. That CBS Sports article on page 276 is out of context. While it's true that Roger Goodell reportedly wants the Jags to play two games in London, one of those games would be an away game, so Jax will still have seven home games. I don't care what Roger Goodell, Robert Kraft, Jason La Canfora, or any of these so-and-so's say, they aren't controlling the decision of Shad Khan and whether the Jags stay here or not. There's alot of speculatory BS floating around with our 'friends' in the national media. I really hate this whole London crap from the get-go,  it's stupid IMO; Just when we started a lil' sellout streak too. No I'm not buying that 'more exposure' argument; Yeah, it's 'exposing' us alright, to the national media imbeciles. Say what you what to about Wayne Weaver, but this is exactly why he didn't want to Jags to share ANY games with ANY city.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/04/confusion-arises-over-plans-for-jaguars-in-london/

Now now my friend, does lose sight my friend. The London games are hugely important. Regardless of what, we are the NFL's smallest and more irrelavent market, we MUST get exposure. There is a very big picture with this. You know we disagree on this, but this franchise would not have survive the way weaver was running it. No shot at him as a person, but its the truth. London will only not help build an international fan base, but it also will build our revenue. Not to mention we have marketing rights over the for the next four years. This team needs revenue and Not even trying to be funny, its revenue that we can not get from Jax alone. As far as selling, Im not satisfied until the tarps come off. Because of the revenue from the  London, the ticket prices here will stay down for the most part, which will help us continue to "sell out'

But I-10 I have an honest question for, do you REALLY think that the franchise was "just fine" under weaver. It was medicore at best. Do you not think change was necessary? Weaver sure did.
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duvaldude08

Quote from: I-10east on June 08, 2013, 07:09:08 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 07, 2013, 09:09:57 PM
Yeah I read a bunch of crap the other day and decided not to go out of my way to acknowledge it.

Say what you what to about Wayne Weaver, but this is exactly why he didn't want to Jags to share ANY games with ANY city.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/04/confusion-arises-over-plans-for-jaguars-in-london/

Actually Weaver wanted us to share games with Orlando, Im just saying bruh  :D
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I-10east

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Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 08, 2013, 11:05:50 AM
But I-10 I have an honest question for, do you REALLY think that the franchise was "just fine" under weaver.

I don't know about 'just fine' but IMO London isn't the answer; Most NFL fans can't stand the idea of games across the pond, Roger Goodell (possibly the most hated NFL commish) is the only one that's ramming this crap down people's throat. Even the people over there aren't clamoring for full time NFL football, they love soccer. IMO there's other ways to raise up revenue etc, than London being our lifeline. Far as I know, Weaver didn't want to share games because that would bring up moving rumors, and bottomline, he never shared any games. I believe that Orlando thing was just speculation. I don't wanna get into the whole Weaver thing, because I know that you aren't too wild about him, and I sorta have a mancrush on him (no homo, not that there's anything wrong with that, I don't wanna get in trouble by the PC police like Roy Hibbert from the Pacers LOL) If I was Shad Khan, I would be shooting these moving to London rumors down immediately; If he continues to be quiet, along with the baseless rumors, unfortunately there will still be a good segment of our fanbase that's tip-toeing on eggshells.


JayBird

Quote from: I-10east on June 08, 2013, 08:02:40 PM


If I was Shad Khan, I would be shooting these moving to London rumors down immediately; If he continues to be quiet, along with the baseless rumors, unfortunately there will still be a good segment of our fanbase that's tip-toeing on eggshells.

Oh I-10 I was right there with you 110% until the very end LoL. Actually, I think Khan is saying everything by saying nothing. Remember back when 1010XL was interviewing him and asked about Tebow and he stated that is not my decision to make. He then said, "I only discuss what is necessary and is my responsibility for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Stories of unimportance to that effect I ignore. If Jacksonville and the fans want to listen to it, then anything I say will not change their mind." Now this was specifically pertaining to the Tebow power rumor mill that had more force than Andrew bearing down on a 1992 South Beach, but I think it applies to his general mindset that by not giving it attention, he is showing it is not true. After all is said and done, this is an investment for him. If 5 years down the road London is a thriving market and someone offers to buy the Jags to take them to London, who would want to have to deal with irate fans playing a 5 year old recording saying "the Jags will stay in Jacksonville".
Secondly, I have a feeling any entrance on major scale in Europe will be through an expansion just like how the Jaguars came to be. American League, National League, European League. This is just testing the waters. Just my opinion and translation though. On everything else, you're right on the money. GO JAGUARS!!!
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I-10east

Quote from: JayBird on June 08, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
Oh I-10 I was right there with you 110% until the very end LoL. Actually, I think Khan is saying everything by saying nothing. Remember back when 1010XL was interviewing him and asked about Tebow and he stated that is not my decision to make. He then said, "I only discuss what is necessary and is my responsibility for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Stories of unimportance to that effect I ignore. If Jacksonville and the fans want to listen to it, then anything I say will not change their mind."

Right on JayBird, you're on point. Khan shouldn't have to address every erroneous rumor out there in the national media.  Although I don't know about an 'European League' anytime soon, as the NFL isn't currently showing any interest in expansion. IMO the NFL should stay in America.

JayBird

Quote from: I-10east on June 08, 2013, 10:41:06 PM
Quote from: JayBird on June 08, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
Oh I-10 I was right there with you 110% until the very end LoL. Actually, I think Khan is saying everything by saying nothing. Remember back when 1010XL was interviewing him and asked about Tebow and he stated that is not my decision to make. He then said, "I only discuss what is necessary and is my responsibility for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Stories of unimportance to that effect I ignore. If Jacksonville and the fans want to listen to it, then anything I say will not change their mind."

Right on JayBird, you're on point. Khan shouldn't have to address every erroneous rumor out there in the national media.  Although I don't know about an 'European League' anytime soon, as the NFL isn't currently showing any interest in expansion. IMO the NFL should stay in America.

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duvaldude08

anyone else get their jersey in? Mine finally came on monday!  :D
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Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 10, 2013, 12:05:32 AM
anyone else get their jersey in? Mine finally came on monday!  :D

Yes, mine showed up.
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In a vacuum this may make some sense.   But with the upgrades already underway and planned seems like a pipe dream.     
Even in a vacuum I think it's a bad plan. 

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Is it Time for Jaguars to Leave EverBank Field?
Jun 10, 2013 -- 8:43am
By: Tim White (@The_Motley_Jag)

I think that it is time that the Jaguars and this community realize the team needs to build an entirely new sports complex on the south side of town.

Leave EverBank Field to the Gator Bowl Committee and let them wonder how to fill it the other 50 weeks of the year.

The current stadium and its location were fine when we were awarded the Jaguars, but the time has come to relocate the stadium to the south side of town on a fifty to one-hundred acre parcel of land that will house everything to do with the Jaguars: the offices, practice facility, parking garages, and new state of the art stadium.

EverBank has served its purpose, but the size of the facility is now, and has been, a problem for the team for some time. The original capacity of EverBank Field as requested by Wayne Weaver was proposed to be 64,000, but it is 20,000 more than that because of the annual Florida Georgia game. That requirement makes EverBank Field the seventh largest facility in the NFL. So had we done what Wayne Weaver proposed at the beginning, we would have lost the annual college rivalry, but the issue regarding attendance surrounding our Jags would most likely never have come up.

I even have a location picked out for where the new facility should be, it should be located north of Nocatee Parkway, west of the Intracoastal Waterway, east of Philips Highway and south of I-295. The relocation of the stadium would solve every concern surrounding the team. It would allow for a better fan experience by having a new stadium, it would solve parking and traffic issues and most importantly, it would show the NFL and everyone else who says that we are moving to London, that no, we are not, the Jaguars have a home and it is in Jacksonville, Florida.

Tacachale

Who is that? It's an interesting idea, but there are some very serious drawbacks. Everbank Field is less than 20 years old, the last thing we need is to have to finance another stadium out in the exurbs while the current one is well within its useful life. There also aren't any real parking or traffic issues at the current stadium, and an exurban location would have no ability to spur nearby development, which is half the reason for building these expensive stadiums anyway.
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