"Occupy "insert city name here" Protestors

Started by RMHoward, October 10, 2011, 02:18:51 PM

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Quote from: JeffreyS on October 11, 2011, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on October 11, 2011, 01:47:21 PM
From City Journal:

http://www.city-journal.org/2011/eon1007ng.html

Great find UL
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So with all of his generosity and goodwill to man you would think that maybe he could have helped out the home economy a little more.   Don't you think?  How much $$$ has he poured into the Chinese economy, having the parts and processors made overseas.  Parts and processors that could be made over here or even assembled over here.  You know, creating jobs on the homefront.  It would have eaten into his profit margin a little, but hey, at least he's 'one of the good corporate CEOs'.  Who's interest is he really looking out for?

Maybe it was SJ's view on disposable goods.  Make a solid, easy to use product that will last a lifetime.  Yet, he keeps upgrading his basic equipment, knowing that the faithful will have to have the latest and greatest.  How's that I-Phone4'S' working for everyone?  I can't wait until the I-Phone 5 drops in another 6 months.  C'mon sheeple.  It's all in the name of ,um, growth.  Or maybe it's another $400, oops, I put the antennae where your finger goes mistake again.

And sure, unlike the banks, the gov't would have never stepped in and helped them out if the company were to tank, but I'm sure that Apple's money isn't buried in a mason jar out in the woods, is it?  So, in contrast, didn't they benefit more than the rest of us by the gov't propping up the other crooks profiteers.
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Captain Zissou

Maybe the unemployed are just wasting their time on forums all day.....

Your argument is absurd. Your 'systemic problem'  is something that has been true for tens of thousands of years.  There has never been 100% employment, never.  It's not new to our society.  What is new is the welfare state that we have recently established.  We'll never have a sufficient number of jobs for the entire country to be employed.  We can quit throwing good money after bad.  Being philanthropic and compassionate is one thing, but practically setting tax dollars on fire to make sure the average household in poverty has 2.4 TV's is something entirely different.

My story isn't a feel good one.  It is an argument against your 'systemic problem'.  I was without job and without money.  After enough dead ends I finally found a job.  This happens thousands of times daily.  There are many who are unable to find a job, and some won't, but it is not a systemic problem caused by a marriage of Wall Street and the White House.  It's a fact of life.  Tough economic times allow for ingenuity and innovation.  Adapt and thrive.

Bridges

Quote from: Captain Zissou on October 11, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
Being philanthropic and compassionate is one thing, but practically setting tax dollars on fire to make sure the average household in poverty has 2.4 TV's is something entirely different.

I just want to add that this type of lifestyle is in no way indicative of wealth, or higher class, or even of being able to succeed.  Consumer goods have dropped in value steeply over the past decades.  Old models of items and things are cheap.  But what hasn't dropped is the price of things that allow people to climb out of poverty, or in some cases even prevent it. 

Summed up in the article:  The stuff you're making is getting cheaper.  The stuff you need is getting more expensive.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/07/30-million-in-poverty-arent-as-poor-as-you-think-says-heritage-foundation/242191/

QuoteProductivity increases in electronics, food manufacturing, and textiles have made consumer electronics, food, and clothes extremely cheap. Watching TV, reading news, listing to music, wearing clothes, and eating meals has never been more affordable, because we've figured out ways to bring down their cost through automation, outsourcing, and new technology.



Long story interesting, it isn't your extra tv that's making or breaking you, its the sky rocketing costs of health care, access to food, and affordable housing that will. 
So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

JeffreyS

The protesters gained the high ground the second the police wet themselves and the pepper spray came out.  High marks to the police in Jax who showed a belief in citizens rights.
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north miami

Quote from: JeffreyS on October 11, 2011, 06:42:12 PM
The protesters gained the high ground the second the police wet themselves and the pepper spray came out.  High marks to the police in Jax who showed a belief in citizens rights.

Last Saturday in Jacksonville the Protesters drove the police to smiles.

FayeforCure

Quote from: north miami on October 11, 2011, 07:02:44 AM
I see in today's news some Occupy Boston protesters  have been arrested for moving on to a Downtown Greenway.
No doubt there is a certain rowdy presence.By comparison,last weekend's  Jacksonville event was certainly peaceful.
What would happen if the Protest Public was to converge on Hogans Creek???...

based on what I witnessed first hand last Saturday,my insert:

"Eclectic,Knowledgeable,Street Smart,Studious......"

There was a well dressed senior couple with high end vehicle.Nodes of good energy- a guy retired from JEA who recounted the role of First Baptist Downtown within JEA management and position placement circles,revelations in the "NO JEA IN CLAY"/proposed Green Cove coal fire plant era.His previous stint as camera man for George Winterling garnered a TV station interview Saturday.Channel 4 I believe.It dawned on me that I never watch the local news broadcasts anymore.
A chat with Shelton Hull,his grasp of issues,history and recounts of his recent District 14 Council seat exhilarating.
And the signs! 'Fight Truth Decay !',Ronald Reagan quotes that damn certain 'Conservative' outlooks and initiatives.
Urban Sprawl themes......no wonder Regional Boosters are so recently vigilant in casting images of support for the Beltway......this stuff could get effectively out of hand.

And for sure the far left elements,which makes me realize just how Center I am.I am glad I am here at Hemming Park.

As we stream out on to Laura Street,southbound, the horizon is dominated by WELLS FARGO atop the Independent Life building.The marchers include a dog wearing a sign that reads 'I Eat Bankers!'.

Over and over the marchers thank the Police officers for their efforts.......the Officer's smiles beam.
Like the sign says- A public that is afraid of their government is not a free public.Saturday's March was an exercise of Freedom,a reality check.

Sheets of rain do not deter the Marchers.I duck for cover......everyone else marches by,on purpose.........what a Pudd I am!.......I step back out in the rain.What price will we pay for Freedom?I think of more comfortable Downtown settings in the due course of "Protest"- at the Planning Commission and Council podium establishing "Standing",the fascinating after hours River Summit meeting brokered by top Jeb Bush officials.......I imagine this march could perhaps prove less futile.

Cheers!

Just wanted to say thank you for that awesome description of the sentiments on the street at the Occuoy Jacksonville event, since nobody commented on it yet in this thread.

Too bad I didn't get to meet dogwalker and you there.

We need a Metrojacksonville button to identify ourselves ;)
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Quote from: FayeforCure on October 12, 2011, 08:50:52 AM
Just wanted to say thank you for that awesome description of the sentiments on the street at the Occuoy Jacksonville event, since nobody commented on it yet in this thread.

Too bad I didn't get to meet dogwalker and you there.

We need a Metrojacksonville button to identify ourselves ;)
And/or those long-talked-about and long-desired MetroJacksonville t-shirts.

Where is "The Compound" when we need them? :D
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