Occupy Jax is coming...

[FayeforCure]

I have been hoping for Occupy Jax to actually occupy something.  Have you guys picked out a park to camp in yet?

I vote we occupy the Gold Club because, you know, it just sounds like 1%ers would hang out there.

Perhaps our local protesters aren't  jobless leaches looking to hook up and get high, after all?

Maybe working and paying taxes is preventing our protesters from camping out?

I haven't heard these ideas expressed on the news so I suppose it's highly unlikely.

As a matter of fact there were three college professors at the Occupy Jacksonville rally yesterday.

Here is the news story with video............see if you can spot yours truly who will be doing a teach-in next Saturday. Hint: as you watch the video, look for a sign that reflects a topic that is near and dear to my heart......ok, ok.........it has to do with how our elections are bought and paid for by the 1% 

Hundreds March During 'Occupy Jax'

Movement Hits 1,500 U.S. Cities


POSTED: Saturday, October 22, 2011

See video:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- More than 200 demonstrators marched from Memorial Park to the Riverside Arts Market during Occupy Jacksonville.
The was the third Saturday in a row the group has gathered, all wanting their voices heard.
"This is not a revolution. We're just like everyone else," said Bill Guerrant, a demonstrator.
Participants in Occupy Jacksonville said they are part of the 99 percent and want to see change in the United States.
"The answer is simple. We need people in government that care about the everyday person, the struggles," said Guerrant.
"People want to have jobs. People want to have living wages. They don't want handouts. They're not lazy people who want to get somebody's money," said University of North Florida professor Sasha Milicevic.
"They want a chance to live in a country in which they can prosper," she added.


Related: 19 Occupy Orlando Protesters Arrested

Protesters said they want to see a better education and health care system, and less corporate greed. They said they have no plans of going anywhere anytime soon.
"If you observe what is happening here, you can actually see democracy in action. You can see that being expressed all over the cities, in more than 1,500 towns so far. I think it's an amazing movement and hopefully they succeed," said Milicevic.



Previous Stories:
•October 15, 2011: 'Occupy Jax' Protesters March Again
•October 8, 2011: Photo Story: Occupy Jacksonville Rally
•October 5, 2011: Occupy Jacksonville Plans Saturday Protest


http://www.news4jax.com/news/29560934/detail.html

[Ocklawaha]

Faye, Libia and I are pretty back and forth from Colombia, in fact we were headed down there this month, then changed plans and will go after the Christmas Holidays.  I know you were pretty young in Colombia so I'm not sure that you recall that NOTHING happens from December 1 through the first few days of January.

Growing up in Ortega, my father had a handful of business partners in a cattle and grain corporation. This led to joint ownership in well over 1,000 hectares of land (I don't remember the actual number) in Goias State in Brasil.
I remember going there with him to the Rio Tocantins off highway 153, I believe we were in Palmas. Today one of the primary projects of the massive expansion of the Brasilian Railroads runs right through there between Belem and south Brasil.

Palmas sure didn't look like this when I was last there.

Here's a link to the railroad project, keep in mind this is only the tip of the iceberg in Brasil, Chili, Colombia and Argentina, all of which are in a red hot expansion mode with soaring economies.

http://www.vale.com/en-us/o-que-fazemos/logistica/ferrovias/ferrovia-norte-sul/pages/default.aspx

It just amazes me that the USA totally gets the 'From each according to their ability,' part but completely misses the 'To each according to their need,' portion. I don't believe as the Communist do, that all of this is the responsibility of the government, rather the government should make it very comfortable for private corporations that live up to that standard, and very hard for those that don't.

OCKLAWAHA

[FayeforCure]

It just amazes me that the USA totally gets the 'From each according to their ability,' part but completely misses the 'To each according to their need,' portion. I don't believe as the Communist do, that all of this is the responsibility of the government, rather the government should make it very comfortable for private corporations that live up to that standard, and very hard for those that don't.

OCKLAWAHA

So beautifully said Ock!

My Marketing professor at the University of Amsterdam owned one of the largest department store chains in Brazil  (Ultralar) in the 70s and 80s, and offered me a job in his inner circle "thinktank," but stuborn as I was, I had already set my mind to moving to California.

[ben says]

It just amazes me that the USA totally gets the 'From each according to their ability,' part but completely misses the 'To each according to their need,' portion. I don't believe as the Communist do, that all of this is the responsibility of the government, rather the government should make it very comfortable for private corporations that live up to that standard, and very hard for those that don't.

OCKLAWAHA

So beautifully said Ock!

My Marketing professor at the University of Amsterdam owned one of the largest department store chains in Brazil  (Ultralar) in the 70s and 80s, and offered me a job in his inner circle "thinktank," but stuborn as I was, I had already set my mind to moving to California.

Don't want to get the forum off-track (I like this thread), but I never put 2+2 together about you going to U of A. Are you Dutch, or an American who happened to go to school there? I almost went to U of A. Been to Amsterdam 5-6 times in the past 5 years. Great city. Love it.

[FayeforCure]

It just amazes me that the USA totally gets the 'From each according to their ability,' part but completely misses the 'To each according to their need,' portion. I don't believe as the Communist do, that all of this is the responsibility of the government, rather the government should make it very comfortable for private corporations that live up to that standard, and very hard for those that don't.

OCKLAWAHA

So beautifully said Ock!

My Marketing professor at the University of Amsterdam owned one of the largest department store chains in Brazil  (Ultralar) in the 70s and 80s, and offered me a job in his inner circle "thinktank," but stuborn as I was, I had already set my mind to moving to California.

Don't want to get the forum off-track (I like this thread), but I never put 2+2 together about you going to U of A. Are you Dutch, or an American who happened to go to school there? I almost went to U of A. Been to Amsterdam 5-6 times in the past 5 years. Great city. Love it.

I'm Dutch and became American........my parents and four sisters still live in the Netherlands.
We used have professors from the Ann Arbor University of Muchigan come over to the University of Amsterdam to teach urban planning and economic geography. I actually found out recently that all iniversities and colleges in the Netherlands teach in english exclusively. They no longer teach in Dutch.

The world is getting very small indeed. I still LOVE Amsterdam. I was there just 2 months ago.

Too bad you never did attend U of A........you would have really liked it.........but at least you do get to visit Amsterdam!!

[Dog Walker]

All university instruction in English!  No wonder everybody in the Netherlands speaks English.

I once asked my distributor in France, who was Dutch, why he spoke so many languages.  He was fluent in Dutch, Flemish, German, English, French, Spanish and Italian and could get along in Russian, Urdu and Portuguese.

His response? "We have to do business and who the hell is going to learn Dutch!"  He also said that once you knew three or four languages, learning more was easy. 

Easy for him to say!

[buckethead]

All university instruction in English!  No wonder everybody in the Netherlands speaks English.

I once asked my distributor in France, who was Dutch, why he spoke so many languages.  He was fluent in Dutch, Flemish, German, English, French, Spanish and Italian and could get along in Russian, Urdu and Portuguese.

His response? "We have to do business and who the hell is going to learn Dutch!"  He also said that once you knew three or four languages, learning more was easy. 

Easy for him to say!

In several language, no doubt.

[FayeforCure]

In the Netherlands in elementary school it is required to learn english. Then in high school one is required to learn french and german as well.

Nothing makes you get along with your neighbors better than to speak their language

[FayeforCure]

And the military and police is starting to speak our language too!

Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 06:12 PM PDT.

Occupy Army, Marines, Air Force, Navy, Police, to provide OWS Convoy Escort

Apparently spurred by the shoutdown delivered by Marine Veteran Sgt Shamar Thomas to NYPD officers in Times Square (with over 2 million views on Youtube!), more military Occupy groups have been started. The Veracity of the these organizations may be questionable at this moment, but what can't be questioned is the growth of the Occupy Movement, and its ability to attract Military Veterans, Active duty as well as retired and current Police Officers.

Last night I reported on the organizing of OccupyMarines and Occupy_Police, with websites and twitter information. 24 hours later its clear that motivated by the Marine effort an Occupy Army facebook page was created, throwing a friendly jab at the OccupyMarines:
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Time for us to open our eyes. Time for us to get in this fight, we can't let our Marine brothers get all the glory. Our Marine brothers have started this so let's back them up!

The Occupy Navy Facebook page says:

Occupy Navy is here to support the OccupyMarines effort....

Ironically that mirrors the Navy's traditional role of transporting the Marines. Occupy Air Force jumps onboard:

We are just getting going in our support of Occupy Marines... Please share this page, Occupy Navy, Occupy Army, and of course, Occupy Marines if you haven't. We aren't going to start our own press, we are just trying to help unify the Armed Forces for a push... and the Marines, have taken the lead. We will support them!

Dispensing with the cheerleading here is a listing of facebook pages, twitter accounts and websites.

Marines:
Twitter
Facebook
Website

Navy
Twitter
Facebook
No Website

Air Force
Twitter
Facebook
No Website

Army
Twitter
Facebook
Facebook Occupy Army Supports OWS
Website

Police
Twitter
Facebook
Website

In the comments triumph110 dropped a link to Occupy Coast Guard, why am I not surprised, so I checked google for a twitter account and yes, you guessed it.

Occupy Coast Guard on Twitter
Occupy Coast Guard on facebook

And last not last Veterans:
In Dallas Twitter
In San Diego Occupy Veterans
Occupy, Military and Veterans
Veterans for Occupy Wall Street

Rubberduck, this is Occupy Marines, we got the front door.
10-4 Marines, I'd appreciate if can hold that front door open for us.
10-4 Rubberduck
10-44 Rubberduck.
Go ahead Occupy Air Force
Coast is clear up top.
!0-4 Air Force.
Occupy Navy, whats your 10-20?
Got your back Rubberduck.
10-4 Navy.
Occupy Army good to see you.
10-4 Rubberduck, we got ourselves a Convoy.

'Cause we got a little 'ole convoy, Rockin' through the night
Yeah, we got a great big convoy, Ain't she a beautiful sight
C'mon and join our Occupy, Ain't nothin' gonna get in our way
We gonna roll this truckin' convoy, 'Cross the USA

Convoy by CW McCall, with a slight change.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/24/1029667/-Occupy-Army,-Marines,-Air-Force,-Navy,-Police,-to-provide-OWS-Convoy-Escort?via=siderec

[thelakelander]

The council also delayed another decision, postponing until next month a vote on a $1.25 million incentive package for JP Morgan Chase & Co. to add 250 jobs at two Southside offices.

The delay on the Chase incentives was requested by Brown’s office but did not stop a public hearing where people who saw the deal as corporate welfare asked the council to vote no when the bill is taken up next month.

“I think ... they didn’t want our voices there,” said Teresa Rorstrom, one of about 20 people who spoke against the legislation (2011-662). Backers of Occupy Jacksonville and the Libertarian Party had both urged people to oppose the bill.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-10-25/story/jacksonville-city-council-does-u-turn-monroe-issue?cid=hp-justin

[ronchamblin]

"Former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta will surrender to the FBI on Wednesday to face criminal charges, a person familiar with the investigation said.  Gupta was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in hedge fund founder Raj Rajaratnam's trial earlier this year. He has denied wrongdoing.  Rajaratnam was sentenced to 11-years in prison this month. Gupta's attorney, Gary Naftalis, did not immediately respond to a call seeking comment."

I love it.  Occasionally we see a bit of justice for these thieves on Wall Street.  Perhaps more and more will serve some good jail time, at least 15 years each.  The days of giving light prison terms to these white collar beasts because they were not considered to be a "threat to society" is gone.  Any fool now can see that these greedy beasts can be considered to be threats to society.  Look at what their accumulated actions has caused.  Onward.  Prosecute more of the bastards.  What was the movie..... Hang Em High with Eastwood?  Well.....Hang Em All.   

[FayeforCure]

Thank you ronchamblin. White collar (corporate) crime hurts far more people!

Here is a list of grievances against corporations that have cost us all dearly in the past few decades:

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City



This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on September 29, 2011

Translations: French, Slovak, Spanish, German, Italian

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As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.
■They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
■They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
■They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
■They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
■They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
■They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
■They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
■They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
■They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
■They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
■They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
■They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.
■They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
■They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
■They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
■They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
■They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
■They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
■They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
■They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
■They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.
■They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
■They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.*

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.

http://www.nycga.net/resources/declaration/

[buckethead]

The council also delayed another decision, postponing until next month a vote on a $1.25 million incentive package for JP Morgan Chase & Co. to add 250 jobs at two Southside offices.

The delay on the Chase incentives was requested by Brown’s office but did not stop a public hearing where people who saw the deal as corporate welfare asked the council to vote no when the bill is taken up next month.

“I think ... they didn’t want our voices there,” said Teresa Rorstrom, one of about 20 people who spoke against the legislation (2011-662). Backers of Occupy Jacksonville and the Libertarian Party had both urged people to oppose the bill.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-10-25/story/jacksonville-city-council-does-u-turn-monroe-issue?cid=hp-justin

Looks like it must be a fringe movement after all!