Jags released David Garrard

[comncense]

I can see Garrard going to Seattle and having a better offense line, some offensive weapons and performing better than he did in Jacksonville. David is a decent QB, however, he NEVER had any talented wide receivers to throw to here. I think he might have had Jimmy for one or two seasons.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are about the only two QB's I can think of that can make average WR's look good.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

The jags don't have the best track record of drafting WRs.  I hate to remind everyone of Matt Jones(1st) & Reggie(1st) Williams.  We did draft Ernest Wilford(4th) the same year as Reggie and he was nothing more than a possession receiver.  Next was MSW(4th) - decent, but couldn't stay on the field - we'll see how he does in St. Louis this year.  Mike Thomas(4th) is not a bad receiver.  He has good speed, but he's too, damn short.  This year we went with a decently sized guy, just not blazing speed with Shorts(4th) - yet to be determined.

I think we'll see some offensive weapons added next year.  We have built our lines, both O & D, in the draft.  We should have one of the better LB corp and the DB is a yet to be determined.  RBs can be found anywhere, so that doesn't concern me.   I know that GS is a BAP guy, but it's easier to rank WRs higher on the board when most of the other bases are covered.  Also, it will give Gabbert someone to grow old with. 

Write this down - Next year's draft - 1 - Guard/Center, 2 -WR/DB, 3-DB/WR/DE, 4 - DB/DE/WR 5 - RB/LB

In order of importance.

[blizz01]

Well they DID draft RJ Soward in the first round...oh, wait.  (I think that's where the wheels started coming off, btw).

[comncense]

They seem to be so concerned with the whole "drafting a good character guy" that the people that are proven stars get passed over by the Jags. I'd venture to say that most of the Baltimore Ravens defense weren't 'good character guys' coming out of college, but I'd trade our defense for theirs any Sunday.

Nice guys don't equal winning.

[duvaldude08]

I can see Garrard going to Seattle and having a better offense line, some offensive weapons and performing better than he did in Jacksonville. David is a decent QB, however, he NEVER had any talented wide receivers to throw to here. I think he might have had Jimmy for one or two seasons.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are about the only two QB's I can think of that can make average WR's look good.

I think we are still making excuses for him. Lets go back to 2007. We had a crappy recieving copr back then. Its better now than it was then. The reason we made it far is because Garrad was playing at a high level. Even last season, anytime Garrad was on fire, so was the offense. We do help in WR, but lets stop putting all the blame on them. And now its coming out that the players were actually feeling a certain kind of way because Garrad always blamed them when things went wrong. And thats not kool. Not something a true leader does. He blamed the interception during the ATL game on Mike Thomas. And to be honest the running back are the only thing that makes Garrad look good. When they are out, he's garbage. And the stunt he pulled last year about his finger, when we needed him the most was my last straw. If Mojo could play 14 games with a bad knee, he could have played with a bad finger.

I also believe there are ALOT of things that were going on behind the scenes that fans are not aware of. During the preseason there was a disconnect between Garrad and the entire team and it was obvious.

[copperfiend]

They seem to be so concerned with the whole "drafting a good character guy" that the people that are proven stars get passed over by the Jags. I'd venture to say that most of the Baltimore Ravens defense weren't 'good character guys' coming out of college, but I'd trade our defense for theirs any Sunday.

Nice guys don't equal winning.

What "proven stars" have they passed over in the draft?

[copperfiend]

I can see Garrard going to Seattle and having a better offense line, some offensive weapons and performing better than he did in Jacksonville. David is a decent QB, however, he NEVER had any talented wide receivers to throw to here. I think he might have had Jimmy for one or two seasons.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are about the only two QB's I can think of that can make average WR's look good.

What about Drew Brees? Philip Rivers? The good ones can do it.

And by the way, Seattle's offensive line is terrible.

[comncense]

Duvaldude believe me, in no way am I defending Garrard. I'm just saying it's hard to expect things to get better when we don't have a decent supporting cast of WR's for a QB. Especially for a rookie and a journeyman QB of Luke McCown's caliber. Until the O-line steps up and we address our no name cast of WR's, I don't expect much. MJD and Marcedes can't carry the offense all season.

With all that said, I'm still and will continue to be a season ticket holder thru the good and the bad. It just frustrates me that ownership can't get their drafting right. It really reminds me of how the Orlando Magic continue to screw up their team. Aside from Dwight Howard, they haven't drafted anyone really special.

[comncense]

I can see Garrard going to Seattle and having a better offense line, some offensive weapons and performing better than he did in Jacksonville. David is a decent QB, however, he NEVER had any talented wide receivers to throw to here. I think he might have had Jimmy for one or two seasons.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are about the only two QB's I can think of that can make average WR's look good.

What about Drew Brees? Philip Rivers? The good ones can do it.

And by the way, Seattle's offensive line is terrible.

Rivers has Vincent Jackson and Brees has Colston. Both of which are better than any of our WR's. Not to mention that the Chargers had the number one offense AND defense last year. The Saints had the number 4 defense and 6 offense.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

What "proven stars" have they passed over in the draft?

'05 really hurt - Missed on Roddy White & V-Jack for one Matt Jones

In '06 I can't complain, the only WR we missed was Jennings, but that's the draft that we got Marcedes Lewis and MJD

In '07 we passed on Dwayne Bowe, Anthony Gonzalez, Sidney Rice & Robert Meachum for Reggie Nelson

In '08 we passes on Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson for Derrick Harvey

And these were just the well known WRs in the first round and top of the second.  The worst picks in our history look like '05, '07 & '08 because none of those guys that we picked are even in the NFL anymore.

[copperfiend]

What "proven stars" have they passed over in the draft?

'05 really hurt - Missed on Roddy White & V-Jack for one Matt Jones

In '06 I can't complain, the only WR we missed was Jennings, but that's the draft that we got Marcedes Lewis and MJD

In '07 we passed on Dwayne Bowe, Anthony Gonzalez, Sidney Rice & Robert Meachum for Reggie Nelson

In '08 we passes on Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson for Derrick Harvey

And these were just the well known WRs in the first round and top of the second.  The worst picks in our history look like '05, '07 & '08 because none of those guys that we picked are even in the NFL anymore.

And the person responsible for those drafts was fired two years ago. I was under the impression he was talking about since Gene Smith took over.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I get that, but the book on Gene Smith hasn't been written yet.   

The point I'm making is when we weren't drafting choir boys - how did they turn out?

The only player cut from Gene's drafts was Tiquan Underwood this year.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Rivers has Vincent Jackson and Brees has Colston. Both of which are better than any of our WR's. Not to mention that the Chargers had the number one offense AND defense last year. The Saints had the number 4 defense and 6 offense.

Did I miss something?  Did the Chargers and Saints go to the SB last year?

[duvaldude08]

I can see Garrard going to Seattle and having a better offense line, some offensive weapons and performing better than he did in Jacksonville. David is a decent QB, however, he NEVER had any talented wide receivers to throw to here. I think he might have had Jimmy for one or two seasons.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are about the only two QB's I can think of that can make average WR's look good.

What about Drew Brees? Philip Rivers? The good ones can do it.

And by the way, Seattle's offensive line is terrible.

Rivers has Vincent Jackson and Brees has Colston. Both of which are better than any of our WR's. Not to mention that the Chargers had the number one offense AND defense last year. The Saints had the number 4 defense and 6 offense.

And the Chargers are still struggling to win. So that doesnt say much.

[comncense]

Saints are fresh off of a Super Bowl year and the Chargers finished 9-7 with Vincent Jackson out for most of the season. At the end of the day, this is just my opinion. Like I said, I've been a season ticket holder for a LONG time and even though a lot of things that the team and ownership does frustrates me, I continue to do my part with supporting the team by buying tickets.