Conservatism

[ChriswUfGator]

[avonjax]

but I am definitively not as bitter as you.

Your generation has nothing to be bitter about.  You were allowed to do as you pleased, when you pleased and where you pleased.  When you slept around society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you got high society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you implemented no-fault divorce society no longer told you that you were wrong. When you abandoned your children to daycare and babysitters society no longer told you that you were wrong.

But jax native I did none of those things. The baby boom generation did not destroy this country or the world. The children of baby boomers are responsible too. So many people born after me feel entitled and my generation is responsible for that.  Many mothers work outside the home to make the spoiled brats of your generation able to have all the crap we didn't have. If anything my generation wanted to give their children more than they had and a better life than they had. We just created a society of greedy and selfish "me" people. So even if you are right, it is not just my generation, but yours and most since.

[Garden guy]

And noone told you that conservative policy only helps the wealthy....and noone told you to stop drinking and smoking and now we have 75% of the older generation dying of lung cancer and alcoholism....but of course that's ok because the conservative perfer everyone sick of cancer right?...

[JeffreyS]

Think of your fellow man
Lend him a helping hand
Put a little love in your heart
You see it's getting late
Oh, please don't hesitate
Put a little love in your heart

And the world will be a better place
And the world will be a better place
For you and me
You just wait and see

Another day goes by
Still the children cry
Put a little love in your heart
If you want the world to know
We won't let hatred grow
Put a little love in your heart

And the world (and the world)
will be a better place
All the world (all the world)
will be a better place
For you (for you)
And me (and me)
You just wait (just wait)
And see, wait and see

Take a good look around
And if you're looking down
Put a little love in your hear
t I hope when you decide
Kindness will be your guide

Put a little love in your heart
And the world (and the world)
will be a better place
And the world (and the world)
will be a better place
For you (for you)
And me (and me)
You just wait (just wait) And see
People, now put a little love in your heart


Each and every day
Put a little love in your heart
There's no other way
Put a little love in your heart
It's up to you Put a little love in your heart

C'mon and  Put a little love in your heart

Source: http://lyrics-a-plenty.com/p/put_a_little_love_in_your_heart.lyrics.php

[Garden guy]

but I am definitively not as bitter as you.

Your generation has nothing to be bitter about.  You were allowed to do as you pleased, when you pleased and where you pleased.  When you slept around society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you got high society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you implemented fault divorce society no longer told you that you were wrong. When you abandoned your children to daycare and babysitters society no longer told you that you were wrong.

Greedy selfish mean people...sounds just like the republican party doesn't it?....conservative republicans are all about me..not we...and they say they are pro American...no..they are pro rich people who make all of the rules....how many poor boys are on the rule making committee?

But jax native I did none of those things. The baby boom generation did not destroy this country or the world. The children of baby boomers are responsible too. So many people born after me feel entitled and my generation is responsible for that.  Many mothers work outside the home to make the spoiled brats of your generation able to have all the crap we didn't have. If anything my generation wanted to give their children more than they had and a better life than they had. We just created a society of greedy and selfish "me" people. So even if you are right, it is not just my generation, but yours and most since.

[jax-native68]

Never dawned on you that this is human nature? We're human. We like freedom. We like to fuck.

Your vulgarity speaks volumes for your intelligence. If you expect people to read what you post, let alone give it any credence, you owe them the courtesy of not subjecting them to your lack of class.

[jax-native68]

All of these things are and were liberal, not conservative.

Prove it.

You should note that the world's first social security system was created by Imperial German Chancellor Otto von Bismark.  The socialists in Germany were clamoring for social revolution so Bismark created a social security system to take the wind out of the socialists’ sails.  Bismark is known to historians as an arch-conservative. 

You should also read up on Edmund Burke, the man historians credit as the founder of Anglo-American conservatism.  http://praxeology.net/EB-EIP.htm

The people you take as being conservatives are actually libertarians and reactionaries.

[Dog Walker]

Well at least we know have the clearest definition of conservatism so far;  Prussian militarism and Imperialism = arch-conservatism.  Not a hint of democracy or equal rights anywhere, just authoritarianism.

True colors are showing.

[jax-native68]

The baby boom generation did not destroy this country or the world.

You are utterly delusional.

The children of baby boomers are responsible too.

Who do you think taught my generation to behave as our parents did if not our parents, the Baby Boomers?

Many mothers work outside the home to make the spoiled brats of your generation able to have all the crap we didn't have.

You are merely proving my point.  The generation that endured the Great Depression and fought and won World War II was community-minded and utterly self-sacrificing.  But then they produced the Baby Boomers without instilling in them the values that made it possible to endure the Great Depression and win World War II.  Society dissolved with the advent of the Boomers and the Boomers perpetuated the disaster into succeeding generations.

If anything my generation wanted to give their children more than they had and a better life than they had.

What is better- a mother who spends time on her children or a mother who spends money on her children to compensate for the fact that she won’t spend time with her children?

We just created a society of greedy and selfish "me" people. So even if you are right, it is not just my generation, but yours and most since.

Again, where do you think my generation learned it from if not the generation that raised us?

[jax-native68]

And noone told you that conservative policy only helps the wealthy....and noone told you to stop drinking and smoking and now we have 75% of the older generation dying of lung cancer and alcoholism....but of course that's ok because the conservative perfer everyone sick of cancer right?...

What are you babbling about?

[jax-native68]

Thank god for the 1960s actually.

They made this country more moral, better, and finer.  They strengthened our institutions, rekindled hope in our people, and provided a blueprint for happiness that the world has marveled after.

What made the sixties turbulent wasnt people marching and demonstrating for equality in the civil rights movement, but rather the narrowminded evil people who firebombed and beat the marchers, and hung the advocates, and shot the leaders of the crusade.

The only evil associated with the student activism was the calling out of Federal troops to gas and shoot at them by ronald Reagan in California, and eventually the murders of students at Kent State.  Why?  For peacefully marching against a war.

And the lynchings, beatings, murders, electrocution, imprisonment, eviction, by 'conservatives' against people for the crime of being gay.

And the lynchings, murders, electrocution, imprisonment, eviction, lobotomization, prison rapes and worse by 'conservatives' against people for the crime of being mentally ill.

Its bizarre that people look back at the sixties, and the literal assassinations of liberal leaders like John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X, the mass violence committed by the Klan in every state of old Dixie, the beatings of gay and lesbian people by thugs, the rape of gays, lesbians and prostitutes by cops,  the firebombings of suspected communists, the schoolyard bullying, the casual acceptance of brutal domestic violence, and a history of child abuse that is so horrific, most old timers simply dont talk about their childhood 'discipline' and seem to not notice it.

Instead, like jaxnative, they look at the protests and claim 'Turbulence'.

Which is complete bullshit.

And Jaxnative, im surprised at you, buying into such a childishly flawed view of the past.

Im sorry your mom didnt like you as much as you feel she should have, but that isnt anyone's fault but hers---the rest of the world simply cannot pay for your flawed family dynamics.  You just have to suck it up and be a man about it.

I just lost my breakfast.

[jax-native68]

Never dawned on you that this is human nature? We're human. We like freedom. We like to fuck.

Your vulgarity speaks volumes for your intelligence. If you expect people to read what you post, let alone give it any credence, you owe them the courtesy of not subjecting them to your lack of class.

What lacks class is to pretend that there are 'vulgar' words.  We do like to fuck, at least most of the human race does, and I bet you do too.  Does this make you vulgar?

You can all go to Hell.

[Dog Walker]

Never dawned on you that this is human nature? We're human. We like freedom. We like to fuck.

Your vulgarity speaks volumes for your intelligence. If you expect people to read what you post, let alone give it any credence, you owe them the courtesy of not subjecting them to your lack of class.

What lacks class is to pretend that there are 'vulgar' words.  We do like to fuck, at least most of the human race does, and I bet you do too.  Does this make you vulgar?

You can all go to Hell.

Ah, rational discourse!

[KuroiKetsunoHana]

Never dawned on you that this is human nature? We're human. We like freedom. We like to fuck.

Your vulgarity speaks volumes for your intelligence. If you expect people to read what you post, let alone give it any credence, you owe them the courtesy of not subjecting them to your lack of class.

What lacks class is to pretend that there are 'vulgar' words.  We do like to fuck, at least most of the human race does, and I bet you do too.  Does this make you vulgar?

You can all go to Hell.

Ah, rational discourse!

dog walker, i love you.
jax-native68, what the hell's wrong with you lately?

[ChriswUfGator]

Never dawned on you that this is human nature? We're human. We like freedom. We like to fuck.

Your vulgarity speaks volumes for your intelligence. If you expect people to read what you post, let alone give it any credence, you owe them the courtesy of not subjecting them to your lack of class.

My lack of class, eh? What an odd notion. Personally, I happen to agree with you, but not for the reason you think. Most other people wouldn't agree with us on that. What matters to them, I went to the best boarding schools, my family came over on the boat with William Penn, I'm well-educated, I'm not poor. I can discuss any topic with whatever minimum amount of eloquence and feigned interest is required. To most people, all of that tripe constitutes class. Those are the same people who call a word choice classless. As you did. Which is artificial, and ironic. What matters is not what you say in life but who you are. Most people concerned with class don't have it. I've met better people than I could ever be, who simply never caught a break in life. I have more money, and I can use bigger words. I could even avoid saying "fuck" to fit in with your definition of "class." That hardly means I have any. In fact, if you get down to the nitty-gritty here, simply following all of this to its natural conclusion, I suspect you'd probably agree that conforming to your artificial expectations would be a classless act. After all, when has pretending to be anything but what you are, in order to please someone else, ever been classy? Such make-believe may often be an easy and incomplete answer to difficult questions, but that sort of charade is about as classless as it gets.

Take that advice or leave it. Your choice. Life is awfully short to hamstring yourself, and others, with unrealistic expectations.