Conservatism

[buckethead]

You are to be a potential spiritual mentor to my children?

What makes you think I would want to be the spiritual mentor of your children?  If you are any indication, they probably wouldn’t be worth the effort.

Your inclination toward prejudice is showing. I understand you are feeling a bit inundated by all the "liberals" piling on, but you should try to address issues without the emotional baggage.

I was actually rooting for you to make a conservative stand, as a few do here. The more you post, however, the more I see an emotional reactionary rather than a steady conservative.

You claim your intention to run some sort of school, which has a basis in Christian faith. My post was "for the sake of argument" as I would not subject my children to the whims of a religious zealot with anger management issues.

I already did time of my own at Trinity Christian Academy, while my wife was sentenced to Bishop Kenny.

BTDT

[ben says]

Uh...hate to jump into the middle of such a spirited discussion, and I know this is going to sound like straight hyperbole and overkill, but jesus jax-native68, you sound insane!!

[jax-native68]

Your inclination toward prejudice is showing.

The Constitutions of both the United States and the State of Florida give me a right to practice my religion without interference.  And my religion requires me to be prejudiced against people that do not accept it.  Get over it.

[jax-native68]

Uh...hate to jump into the middle of such a spirited discussion, and I know this is going to sound like straight hyperbole and overkill, but jesus jax-native68, you sound insane!!

And all you libs sound like a generation of vipers.

[avonjax]

You are confused jax native...
It's getting kinda creepy in here...
And yes I do know my history. I am a boomer and I am older than you, but I am definitively not as bitter as you.
My whole reason for making the joke earlier today is I really did think you came here to create your own "chaos," and  you have succeeded admirable.

[JeffreyS]

 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

   41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ : Mathew 25

promote the general welfare : The preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America


The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government. :Thomas Jefferson

[JeffreyS]

Western Liberal Democracy has had episodes of turbulence and the conservatives of western aristocracy had just as many.

Examples?  Documentation?

You need me to cite ninth grade history and civics?

[ben says]

And all you libs sound like a generation of vipers.

Award for creepiest metrojax posting of 2011.

[jax-native68]

but I am definitively not as bitter as you.

Your generation has nothing to be bitter about.  You were allowed to do as you pleased, when you pleased and where you pleased.  When you slept around society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you got high society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you implemented no-fault divorce society no longer told you that you were wrong. When you abandoned your children to daycare and babysitters society no longer told you that you were wrong.

[jax-native68]

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

   41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ : Mathew 25

promote the general welfare : The preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America


The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government. :Thomas Jefferson

What is your point other than to illustrate the fact that Jesus put the burden of social welfare on His Church, not the taxpayers or the government?

The Bible commands: II Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Raising generation after generation on welfare is not pleasing to the Lord God.

[jax-native68]

Western Liberal Democracy has had episodes of turbulence and the conservatives of western aristocracy had just as many.

Examples?  Documentation?

You need me to cite ninth grade history and civics?

If you expect me to give credence to your claim, yes.

[jax-native68]

Sorry, ive been away from this conversation all day, as Ive been filming.

I have to say, jaxnative68 that you simply have no idea what you are talking about.

Neither about liberals, nor about conservatives.

Ive never heard so much drivel in my life.

Well then tell me what your education is so I can judge whether or not you are qualified to make such assertions.

[jax-native68]

equality of the races

A conservative goal since inequality of the races in a multi-racial society presents the risk of social upheaval, i.e., chaos.  The people who supported Jim Crow and fought to maintain it were reactionaries, not conservatives.  A reactionary is so afraid of change that he is willing to risk wholesale revolution rather than agree to change of even the most incremental size.  If you had bothered to actually read all of what I posted, you would have known this.

and the food and drug administration.

Again, a conservative idea.  No legitimate conservative is in favor of laissez-faire economics because human nature sees to it that whenever someone is left to their own devices to exercise their rights in order to maximize their own individual self-interest they will invariably infringe on the rights of others.  Thus a conservative’s goal is to regulate rights for the individual in order to maximize rights for everyone.  Furthermore, laissez-faire economics means buyers and sellers in the unregulated free market have no expectation that they can trust each other.  Thus the free market dissolves and chaos is created.

Voting rights for women.

A liberal policy that lead directly to the feminist movement of the 1960s which lead to the dissolution of the family unit which lead to the destruction of the stable functional and self-sustaining society that conservatives want.

[ChriswUfGator]

but I am definitively not as bitter as you.

Your generation has nothing to be bitter about.  You were allowed to do as you pleased, when you pleased and where you pleased.  When you slept around society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you got high society no longer told you that you were wrong.  When you implemented no-fault divorce society no longer told you that you were wrong.

And it has never dawned on you that there is, in fact, nothing "wrong" either morally or in reality with any of the above?

Never dawned on you that the society you grew up in did all of that (and then some) but simply hid it while preaching what they didn't practice? Never dawned on you that this is human nature? We're human. We like freedom. We like to fuck. Many of us enjoy alcohol or other things. None of us enjoy being saddled with someone who makes us unhappy.

Welcome to real life.

[Tacachale]

^Uh, you are the guy who wants to start a Christian private school, correct?

And that obligates me to enroll your children?  There will be selection criteria that children whose parents are liberals, libertarians or false Christians will not be able to meet.

With your positive, amiable attitude, I'm sure you'll be successful  in your venture.