Presidential address last night

[NotNow]

I didn't say you were greedy Chris.  I said to give some of that unearned income to sheclown for her halfway house efforts.  I do apologize for teasing you about your family wealth though.  And I hope you appreciate what your family has done for you as well.

[Sigma]

just curious and don't mean to take you off subject, but if it was so lucrative, are you retired now? why not still in the business?


and back to the point - regardless of what you or I think, jobs are nonetheless leaving the country and several companies are telling why.

Yes, Jobs are leaving the country.  Thanks to the policies that you endorse.

So I guess, um,.... .thanks once again Sigma.

what policies would that be Stephen?  Obamacare?  I believe that's your baby.

[FayeforCure]

just curious and don't mean to take you off subject, but if it was so lucrative, are you retired now? why not still in the business?


and back to the point - regardless of what you or I think, jobs are nonetheless leaving the country and several companies are telling why.

Yes, Jobs are leaving the country.  Thanks to the policies that you endorse.

So I guess, um,.... .thanks once again Sigma.

Hmmm, yeah, I just LOVE this chart that proves Republican's idea of government's role is wrong. CUT taxes on the wealthy and corporations, is the worst government can do to promote growth and recovery! In fact, it will continue to put us in a negative, downward spiral!!



And yet Republicans cannot let go of this flawed brainwashed ideology that is destroying our country.

The reality is,.............social programs contribute soooooo much more to economic stability and growth, Republicans should learn to embrace them as a legitimate and very basic role of government in a civilized society that is concerned about economic growth and stability.

Besides, each and every one of them will come to rely on a social program at some point in their lives.

Instead of all the chaos Republicans are creating based on their flawed ideology, they should read up on
Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy.............after all, our economy has become as rocky as a third world country's economy!!!

http://steadystate.org/

[NotNow]

Perhaps some of us could read up on the United States Constitution?

[Dog Walker]

just curious and don't mean to take you off subject, but if it was so lucrative, are you retired now? why not still in the business?


and back to the point - regardless of what you or I think, jobs are nonetheless leaving the country and several companies are telling why. 

Medical device jobs are not leaving this country because of a tiny excise tax.  The volume of most medical devices does not justify moving jobs to a low wage country.  Labor costs are a tiny part of the cost of devices.

There is even a good deal of device manufacturing here in Jacksonville.  Both Medtronic and J&J, two largest medical device manufacturers in the world, have manufacturing facilities here.  And, yes, your Vistakon contact lenses are medical devices.

My company and most of the others do our development work outside the US because of the tort system in the US and the greater predictability of the regulatory approval process.  The FDA is underfunded and completely swamped by its duties for food safety, drug safety and device safety.  Their decisions are always slow and sometimes capricious.  The FDA needs to be split into two separate agencies, one for food safety and the other for drugs and medical devices.

Devices, even those developed by American companies and manufactured here, are always available in other countries before they are available here in the US.  If I ever need my hip replaced, I'm going to Germany.

Why out of the business?  Try spending three months of the year in one and two week bites flying around the world to train surgeons to use your devices.  After a while all airports, hotels and hospitals begin to blur together no matter what country they are in.  Try having a hundred or so families depending on the quality of your business decisions.  Try being told by the FDA that your company isn't big enough to put certain kinds of devices on the market.

One gets tired and older.  I am not an empire builder and at some point more money doesn't matter.  I have everything I need and now have time to enjoy life and do things like post on this forum.

[NotNow]

You have an interesting story and point of view DW.  What would be your "top 3" actions to add jobs to our economy?

[FayeforCure]

Perhaps some of us could read up on the United States Constitution?

The US Constitution was written before the threat of take-over of governments by large corporations existed.

Lets protect the PEOPLE from this travesty.

[NotNow]

Perhaps some of us could read up on the United States Constitution?

The US Constitution was written before the threat of take-over of governments by large corporations existed.

Lets protect the PEOPLE from this travesty.

Soooo you believe that the Federal government is well under the influence of evil corporations, and yet you want to give the Federal government more power and money? 

Limit the Federal government to its Constitutionally enumerated powers and you will solve the problem that you seem to see.

[FayeforCure]

Perhaps some of us could read up on the United States Constitution?

The US Constitution was written before the threat of take-over of governments by large corporations existed.

Lets protect the PEOPLE from this travesty.

Soooo you believe that the Federal government is well under the influence of evil corporations, and yet you want to give the Federal government more power and money? 

Limit the Federal government to its Constitutionally enumerated powers and you will solve the problem that you seem to see.

I want government to have the power to protect the People from enemies within as well as enemies from outside our borders.

Republicans are anti-government, except for defense, and the protection of large corporations and the wealthy.

[NotNow]

I understand what you want.  In this country we have a government of laws.  It starts with the Constitution.  That will not change.

[FayeforCure]

I understand what you want.  In this country we have a government of laws.  It starts with the Constitution.  That will not change.

Thank you. Fortunately it is not against the constitution to protect the PEOPLE from the disprorportionate power of corporations and the ultra-wealthy.

May we both agree on that too.

[NotNow]

The Constitution gives the Federal Government certain powers.  The States, and the people (are supposed to) retain ALL other power.  We agree that one of the functions of government is to protect its citizens, we just don't agree on which government and the methods.  Thanks for your thoughts though Faye!

[FayeforCure]

The fixation on the intrepretation of the Constitution keeps us from addressing the most pressing common problem we have that is destroying us from within:

The fact that there has been a corporate take-over of government.

Corporations LOVE it that we are squabbling amongst ourselves about the constitution, it keeps us distracted from the REAL enemy: the abuse of the power elite ie the corporations and the ultra-wealthy that are sucking the life-blood out our country.

Remember it isn't them that create the jobs..........it is our Demand for goods and services that create jobs. Without REAL purchasing power among the general public, our economy will collapse!

[NotNow]

The fixation on the Constitution is what will keep America free.  Heed the lessons of the past.  "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin.

[FayeforCure]

The fixation on the Constitution is what will keep America free.  Heed the lessons of the past.  "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin.

I beg to differ. Western European societies are as free if not free-er than the US!

The US was established bringing European free ideas to the US. Land and resources is what brought most European immigrants to the US.

Many of our earliest Presidents were European born.