Mini Ice Age Coming?

[St. Auggie]

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Actually, the article says 130 years, and it's not a "random period" it is only in the last 130 years that we have reliable records. Unless you have some special knowledge about the climate 3 billion years ago!
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They said in the article they use 1951-1980 as normal. Even if you use 130 years, that is a pathetic measure of what normal is.  And 3 billion years ago it was hot. Really, really hot.

[Kiva]

Which is why life 3 billion years ago was restricted to bacteria. But that has nothing to do with a coming mini-ice age. The best indication of what is going to happen in the near future is what has occurred in the recent past - which is why people spend so much time looking at the stock market day by day instead of looking at it 100 years ago!

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

So in 35 years of my life, can I base everything on a 47 second sample?  Because that's what you're doing with a 130 yr sample over 3B years.  Seems kinda silly doesn't it?  I know that I've had a max temp of about 105 and my greenhouse gases have been multiplying (there was a period through college that I really pulled a number on myself - gravity is a powerful force, too) year after year, but I seem to be doing just fine at the moment.

Oh wait, another 47 seconds passes and I was a little chilly -  maybe I'm moving towards another ice age.

[Kiva]

So in 35 years of my life, can I base everything on a 47 second sample?  Because that's what you're doing with a 130 yr sample over 3B years.  Seems kinda silly doesn't it?  I know that I've had a max temp of about 105 and my greenhouse gases have been multiplying (there was a period through college that I really pulled a number on myself - gravity is a powerful force, too) year after year, but I seem to be doing just fine at the moment.

Oh wait, another 47 seconds passes and I was a little chilly -  maybe I'm moving towards another ice age.

No, as I said earlier 130 years is the only information we have. Put it another way. Do you have any data to show that global worldwide temperatures are suddenly dropping (as you would expect with a mini-age age starting)?

[Kiva]

Actually, 130 years is what we have for day to day temperature data. For some things, such as carbon dioxide levels, we can go back millions of years, which makes your 47 second argument moot.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110607121525.htm

[Kiva]

Here's another interesting statistic - the last time carbon dioxide levels were as high as today (15 millions years ago) sea levels were 75 - 120 ft higher than today. Not good news for Jacksonville.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091008152242.htm
The good news - it will take roughly 200 years for sea levels to rise that much, so this is not a problem for us, just for our great great great grand-children.

[St. Auggie]

Here's another interesting statistic - the last time carbon dioxide levels were as high as today (15 millions years ago) sea levels were 75 - 120 ft higher than today. Not good news for Jacksonville.

I bet the people that caused global warming back then were mad about what they did to the planet.

[jandar]

Jandar.

Seriously?

Are you under the impression that all the worlds climatologists somehow forgot about solar flares?

Do you believe that no one has figured in the natural cycles of weather and solar activity?

Just the whole bloody edifice of modern science lost that small but vital set of facts?---the whole edifice, that is with the sole exceptions of the oil companies and a handful of economists?

Really?

wow.

Much of the research puts the value of Solar activity as negligible which is incorrect.

Im saying that more research needs to go into the interconnection between the two, as a lot of the papers I've read seem to ignore this detail.