Family Dollar proposed for State & Newnan

[thelakelander]

do we really believe they are going to build an urban friendly design? and I have heard that Warren Motors is looking to move.

No, and it has nothing to do with them.  They'll layout what's easist to get approved according to our zoning regulations and since those regulations make it easier for suburban design, that's what we'll be seeing.

[fsujax]

of course they will. thats my point. there is nothing in place to encourage an urban style store.

[duvaldude08]

I agree but disagree. Lets take a look at that BP that was proposed for DT. The first design was suburban (and ugly) and the redesign was urban. So its possible. Speaking of that, did the lady just give up on the gas station or what? anybody know?

[thelakelander]

The BP fell within the DDRB's boundary, which meant they had to incorporate more urban design standards into their layout.  Since it's on the north side of State, I think this property would fall just outside of what is officially considered downtown.  As for an update on the BP, I have no idea of where things stand with that right now.

[duvaldude08]

Ohh ok gotcha. Well if all else fails, atleast it will be out of sight and out of mind. You wont really be able to see it from the main road anyway. Family dollar stores just look like a big metal box. The pic I posted earlier would be nice, but from what you just told me, it may not happen.

[avonjax]

I don't think the term design should be used in the same sentence with Family Dollar. They have no respect for the word. The only reason all their stores are not hideous boxes is zoning. (There is one on Yellow Bluff Road on the Northside that is not completely horrible.) All they care about is making a quick buck. And like Josh said, where is the dollar crap? Someday when the economy recovers, these dumps will line our streets and roads like dead animals. They are everywhere and one day the bottom will fall out.

[duvaldude08]

I don't think the term design should be used in the same sentence with Family Dollar. They have no respect for the word. The only reason all their stores are not hideous boxes is zoning. (There is one on Yellow Bluff Road on the Northside that is not completely horrible.) All they care about is making a quick buck. And like Josh said, where is the dollar crap? Someday when the economy recovers, these dumps will line our streets and roads like dead animals. They are everywhere and one day the bottom will fall out.

I agree. Family dollar has went into overload during the recession. All these stores popping up is ridiculos. They are over extending their selfs. Dollar general has remained moderate.

[iMarvin]

I don't think the term design should be used in the same sentence with Family Dollar. They have no respect for the word. The only reason all their stores are not hideous boxes is zoning. (There is one on Yellow Bluff Road on the Northside that is not completely horrible.) All they care about is making a quick buck. And like Josh said, where is the dollar crap? Someday when the economy recovers, these dumps will line our streets and roads like dead animals. They are everywhere and one day the bottom will fall out.

I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure that's a Dollar General.

[tufsu1]

233 State is not an empty parcel.  It's the site of Warren Motors on the block bounded by State, Newnan/Hubbard, Orange and Market Streets.

oops...thanks for the correction...kind of suprising actually

[Riverrat]

I'm absolutely fine with it - WITH URBAN DESIGN, REAR PARKING, ETC. ETC. Without those two very important elements, this will be a horrible thing for the look of downtown. Who can raise a stink about it when the initial design comes out?? 

[strider]

It does seem that the "dollar store" business plan is one of the few that is actually GROWING  in today's whacked out economy.  Hard to say no to them under those circumstances.  But it also says that they might be able to listen if you can convince them the urban plan is worth it to them 

[JeffreyS]

I don't think it will be that bad if State is the more "strip mall" street in downtown.  If that one street makes it seem more convenient to people wanting to move downtown.  There are now plans for a new gas station, CVS and Family Dollar to go along with the close Winn Dixie.  If that street is the one for national chains they would help support the local business in the more urban area to the south.

[duvaldude08]

I don't think it will be that bad if State is the more "strip mall" street in downtown.  If that one street makes it seem more convenient to people wanting to move downtown.  There are now plans for a new gas station, CVS and Family Dollar to go along with the close Winn Dixie.  If that street is the one for national chains they would help support the local business in the more urban area to the south.

CVS? Where? At the Parkview?

[thelakelander]

The Parkview will probably have a CVS, Walgreens or something similar.  There's nothing wrong with State & Union filling in with major retail.  If we were smart, we'd actually encourage it, considering the high traffic counts and centralized location to downtown and the adjacent neighborhoods.  We just need to make sure, what goes in there is pedestrian oriented moreso than their suburban counterparts.  That's the only way we're going to get back to a point where Springfield seamlessly integrates with downtown from the pedestrian level.

[JeffreyS]

I don't think it will be that bad if State is the more "strip mall" street in downtown.  If that one street makes it seem more convenient to people wanting to move downtown.  There are now plans for a new gas station, CVS and Family Dollar to go along with the close Winn Dixie.  If that street is the one for national chains they would help support the local business in the more urban area to the south.

CVS? Where? At the Parkview?

Yes.