Rick Scott's Veto List $615 Million

Started by CityLife, May 26, 2011, 02:49:21 PM

dougskiles

We have Rick Scott to thank for one thing ... Alvin Brown.

We may get another gift from him next year ... a more balanced state legislature.

It is never a good thing for one party to have so much control - and particularly when it is the far end of that party.  I know that I will be voting for every 'D' I can next year, if for no other reason than to balance the game.  Hopefully other historically 'R' voters will do the same.

Tacachale

I was going to comment on this, but the FTU already has: the majority of non-cut university money is going to the district of the Florida Senate budget chief, JD Alexander.  USF is still getting 77 percent of what it requested, (and around 61% of all the university money), to be spent on the new Lakeland polytechnic campus, which is officially part of USF.

UNF was requesting less than $2 million, around 1.5% of the total amount requested, and will get nothing.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/matt-dixon/2011-05-26/senate-budget-chiefs-district-gets-61-percent-all
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Jimmy

Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

BigGuy219

Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.

Yossarianlives

#34
Per BigGuy219:

"Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it."
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I wouldn't say education is not "essential."  But hey, I am just along for the ride.  

JeffreyS

Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

No we have so much money we can cut revenue. Right BigGuy
Lenny Smash

Tacachale

Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.

You're assuming the cuts being made are smart cuts. But $35 million is still going to a pet project in Lakeland, while we're getting no university construction money.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

BigGuy219

Quote from: Tacachale on May 26, 2011, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.

You're assuming the cuts being made are smart cuts. But $35 million is still going to a pet project in Lakeland, while we're getting no university construction money.

Of course $35 million is going to the pet project in Lakeland. That's pork a key guy delivered to his people.

That's politics. That's the game.

It's not 'fair.' It never has been. It never will be.

JeffreyS

Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.
Hilarious.  Remember people there are lots of People like Big Guy in this state do not send your kids to public school.  My 5 year old lord willing won't ever be in one unless this state really changes priorities Grandparents I'm typing at you.
Lenny Smash

JeffreyS

How many times did Rick Scott specifically promise not to cut education spending? 
Lenny Smash

Tacachale

Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 26, 2011, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.

You're assuming the cuts being made are smart cuts. But $35 million is still going to a pet project in Lakeland, while we're getting no university construction money.

Of course $35 million is going to the pet project in Lakeland. That's pork a key guy delivered to his people.

That's politics. That's the game.

It's not 'fair.' It never has been. It never will be.

That's a pretty poor reason to just willingly buy into cuts that are against the interests of us and our local institution. UNF has demonstrated that it is responsible with the money it receives.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

BigGuy219

Quote from: Tacachale on May 26, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 26, 2011, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.

You're assuming the cuts being made are smart cuts. But $35 million is still going to a pet project in Lakeland, while we're getting no university construction money.

Of course $35 million is going to the pet project in Lakeland. That's pork a key guy delivered to his people.

That's politics. That's the game.

It's not 'fair.' It never has been. It never will be.

That's a pretty poor reason to just willingly buy into cuts that are against the interests of us and our local institution. UNF has demonstrated that it is responsible with the money it receives.

If the only thing in life you have to be pissed off about is UNF losing a proposed $1.9 million (out of $615 million in cuts) then there's no hope for you.

JeffreyS

I can see the Brainstorming session in Rick Scott's office now.

Toady: Governor Scott the citizens of the State are hurting economically.

Gov: OK then let's cut revenue so we can slash spending on the things that help those citizens.
Lenny Smash

Tacachale

Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 26, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on May 26, 2011, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on May 26, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Quote from: BigGuy219 on May 26, 2011, 08:35:30 PM
We can't spend money we don't have.

It's terrible to have to cut things, but the bottom line is that we can't afford it right now.

We have to get this spending under control, so that we don't end up buried in a mound of debt.
You pretend like there aren't two sides to a balance sheet.  We don't have to cut essential services and public investments.  Florida has among the lowest tax rates in the country.  Which is doing nothing for us except for driving jobs and opportunity to other places and making our kids dumber.

We need to cut waste - absolutely - but we can also raise revenue.

Nothing 'essential' is being cut. If it were 'essential' the state would collapse when the measures were cut. They're things that would be nice to have in boom times, and there's some that people are passionate about.

Governor Scott is doing exactly what he promised and is getting Florida going in the right direction. It may hurt today, but down the road we'll be better for it.

You're assuming the cuts being made are smart cuts. But $35 million is still going to a pet project in Lakeland, while we're getting no university construction money.

Of course $35 million is going to the pet project in Lakeland. That's pork a key guy delivered to his people.

That's politics. That's the game.

It's not 'fair.' It never has been. It never will be.

That's a pretty poor reason to just willingly buy into cuts that are against the interests of us and our local institution. UNF has demonstrated that it is responsible with the money it receives.

If the only thing in life you have to be pissed off about is UNF losing a proposed $1.9 million (out of $615 million in cuts) then there's no hope for you.

It's hardly the only thing distressing about these cuts. That hardly makes it a smart move, though.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

BigGuy219

Quote from: JeffreyS on May 26, 2011, 09:26:52 PM
I can see the Brainstorming session in Rick Scott's office now.

Toady: Governor Scott the citizens of the State are hurting economically.

Gov: OK then let's cut revenue so we can slash spending on the things that help those citizens.


What happened to the days when people helped themselves?

When did it become the government's job to help people?

It's that kind of thinking that built up this debt and caused these problems.