Patterson Apartment Building is coming down.

Started by sheclown, April 21, 2011, 03:32:22 PM

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wsansewjs

#15
April 21, 2011, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Timkin on April 21, 2011, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 21, 2011, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: Springfield Chicken on April 21, 2011, 04:22:01 PM
I'm not an engineer and I've seen examples of some seriously bad looking buildings that were saved.  But this building from the other side looks substantially worse.  Giant roof damage so it would take some effort to properly board and secure this one.  Which I would still bet is cheaper than a demolition.

If the damage is so intensive, it would be nice if someone could get the blueprints of this house, and buy the lot cheaper on the ground, and then rebuild to its former glory based on the blueprints.

-Josh

I would think to REPLICATE the house in the exact same construction as it currently is , VS saving it by mothballing /selling/rehabbing it  would cost as much , if not more than fixing the purchase of / fixing the problems.

According to you, if you said that the cost on both sides are going to cancel it out, then what is the fundamental thing to do with this house? I would say... save, repair, and weep.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

sheclown

#16
April 21, 2011, 04:51:33 PM
The majority of the roof damage is to the back porch.

wsansewjs

#17
April 21, 2011, 05:04:49 PM
Judging from what I saw the photos and heard information from people, and I would very much like to see in person... If the roof damage is only limited to the back porch, that is EASILY replaced and not so much expensive compared to a main roof damage. This building has bricks all around it, so it should be built like a tank. I am no engineer, but brick buildings tends to last longer than wooden building obviously.

So, what is the deal with the owner AND the city?

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

mtraininjax

#18
April 21, 2011, 05:09:40 PM Last Edit: April 21, 2011, 05:16:38 PM by mtraininjax
Call the council person for the district. Anyone else in the city will give you the run around if its been fast tracked.

QuoteThe sorry ass owner, is what's wrong!

Public records show it belongs to

MCGRIFF CHARLES L ET AL
12470 APPLE LEAF DR
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32224

Apparently it was willed to he and his family after his father passed away. I do not show a mortgage on the property through the city records, so he owns it all. He'll get a nice bill from the city to tear it down at least.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Timkin

#19
April 21, 2011, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 21, 2011, 05:09:40 PM
Call the council person for the district. Anyone else in the city will give you the run around if its been fast tracked.

QuoteThe sorry ass owner, is what's wrong!

Public records show it belongs to

MCGRIFF CHARLES L ET AL
12470 APPLE LEAF DR
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32224

Apparently it was willed to he and his family after his father passed away. I do not show a mortgage on the property through the city records, so he owns it all. He'll get a nice bill from the city to tear it down at least.


Like the new avatar M-train :)

mtraininjax

#20
April 21, 2011, 05:19:47 PM
QuoteLike the new avatar M-train

Thanks, I could not do the whole thing, I mean I like him more than the other candidate, but I am not hog wild crazy about him though either, still allegiances do matter.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Timkin

#21
April 21, 2011, 05:20:58 PM
they do , indeed. 

wsansewjs

#22
April 21, 2011, 05:21:50 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 21, 2011, 05:19:47 PM
QuoteLike the new avatar M-train

Thanks, I could not do the whole thing, I mean I like him more than the other candidate, but I am not hog wild crazy about him though either, still allegiances do matter.

WHOA! Did I just saw a hint of regret showing there? -rubs my eyes again- Don't tell me I just read that...

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

wsansewjs

#23
April 21, 2011, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 21, 2011, 05:09:40 PM
Call the council person for the district. Anyone else in the city will give you the run around if its been fast tracked.

QuoteThe sorry ass owner, is what's wrong!

Public records show it belongs to

MCGRIFF CHARLES L ET AL
12470 APPLE LEAF DR
JACKSONVILLE, FL 32224

Apparently it was willed to he and his family after his father passed away. I do not show a mortgage on the property through the city records, so he owns it all. He'll get a nice bill from the city to tear it down at least.


It would be OUR OBLIGATION as the taxpayers of Duval county to try and save money for the both sides by try to intervene the internal affairs and resolve this matter once for all in order to save a house for the historic Springfield District.

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare

Timkin

#24
April 21, 2011, 05:25:17 PM
Careful now Josh... you will get attacked for wanting to save a historic building, be called a building hugger, and other things ;)

Garden guy

#25
April 21, 2011, 05:26:27 PM
Would it save the city money to just pay the owner the amount it would take to take it down and then give it to a construction union school and let them take it on? or are there any programs that work with construction schools and old homes?

mtraininjax

#26
April 21, 2011, 05:27:37 PM
QuoteWHOA! Did I just saw a hint of regret showing there? -rubs my eyes again- Don't tell me I just read that...

-Josh

Who me? Naaaaaaahhhhhh!
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

mtraininjax

#27
April 21, 2011, 05:28:09 PM
QuoteCareful now Josh... you will get attacked for wanting to save a historic building, be called a building hugger, and other things

Quick, call the new CEO of the Y, we could ...........
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

Timkin

#28
April 21, 2011, 05:31:32 PM
Hey now, I did not invent that idea.. I just agree with it.

wsansewjs

#29
April 21, 2011, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: Timkin on April 21, 2011, 05:25:17 PM
Careful now Josh... you will get attacked for wanting to save a historic building, be called a building hugger, and other things ;)

They wouldn't dare. I am deaf and blind. They wouldn't hurt a poor disabled chap, wouldn't they?

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

"Stephen intends on running for office in the next election (2014)." - Stephen Dare
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