Floridians Deserve The Right To Recall, Don't You Think?

Started by FayeforCure, April 13, 2011, 02:17:40 PM

FayeforCure

To my Republican and Democratic friends, do you think we should extend the "personal responsibility" we hold all our citizens to, and have it apply to elected officials like Rick Scott?

Most who voted for Rick Scott have buyer's remorse............should we have to wait 4 years before these elected politicians face any consequences?

QuoteFlorida law currently allows for the recall of local elected officials, but there is no provision to allow for the recall of state officials, unlike 18 other states.

Engaged citizens deserve the tools to hold their public servants accountable without having to wait for the next election!

Legislation to create a citizen recall process in Florida has been introduced by Rep. Kriseman. And to show the widespread support that bill has, a petition to be delivered to the Florida State House, the Florida State Senate, and Governor Rick Scott, has been created. The petition simply says:

"Create a citizens' recall process for state elected officials in Florida by passing Rep. Rick Kriseman's House Joint Resolution 785 and House Bill 787."

Will you sign the petition?

http://www.signon.org/sign/floridians-deserve-the?source=mo

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FayeforCure

Anyone here sign it yet?

Almost 7,000 signatures already, but we are looking for 10,000!! ;D
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danem

Would this actually be a valid petition? I've never seen an online petition for something like this before.

FayeforCure

Quote from: danem on April 13, 2011, 08:18:19 PM
Would this actually be a valid petition? I've never seen an online petition for something like this before.

Totally legit.

It was initiated by Rep. Kriseman.

As you know, Dems are just sitting there in Tallahassse without any say whatsoever...........

So the only way they can get Republicans to pay attention, and move on this is to show that citizens are INDEED concerned about the fact that 18 other states CAN recall their Governors, State Senators, and State Representatives. After all Florida is fourth in the nation in terms of population.

Why is it that we are always so far behind every other state in granting our citizens rights?
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JeffreyS

I signed I do not think Scott will recalled but there should be that option.
Lenny Smash

Jimmy

We can recall a Mayor, we the people should be able to recall a Governor. 

It needs to be on the next ballot in 2012 as a Constitutional Amendment.

danem

Quote from: Jimmy on April 13, 2011, 11:09:26 PM
We can recall a Mayor, we the people should be able to recall a Governor. 

It needs to be on the next ballot in 2012 as a Constitutional Amendment.

It does, because heaven forbid it be a bill for the governor to sign or veto!  ;D

AmyLynne

Quote from: Jimmy on April 13, 2011, 11:09:26 PM
We can recall a Mayor, we the people should be able to recall a Governor. 

It needs to be on the next ballot in 2012 as a Constitutional Amendment.

And then everytime the other party is in control...the other party starts a recall movement.

Does any one think that it wont happen that way?

Jimmy

Well, Amy, no.  We haven't tried to recall our Mayor - ever. And presidential impeachment happens rarely.

I think we can be trusted with the right of recall. It's an extraordinary remedy. Much easier in most cases to wait for the next election.

spuwho

Why would you recall him?

Sour grapes over the HSR rejection?

His hard line on spending cuts?

I don't necessarily enjoy his communication skills to the public, but he is raising awareness and forcing the legislators to make priorities.

Every politician has an approach and angle on what is important to spend on. He is making those who don't agree to justify their positions.  While his approach rubs people wrong, he is actually starting a debate where it wasn't happening before.

I would have expected Alex Sink to be doing the same things if she won.(forcing priorities) Perhaps she might have communicated it a little better than Rick Scott does.




AmyLynne

Quote from: Jimmy on April 13, 2011, 11:32:10 PM
Well, Amy, no.  We haven't tried to recall our Mayor - ever. And presidential impeachment happens rarely.

I think we can be trusted with the right of recall. It's an extraordinary remedy. Much easier in most cases to wait for the next election.

No...in the past it hasn't happened, but in today's political climate...I can see it happening.

JeffreyS

The process should be very ridged and hard to achieve but it would be a good to have a safe guard for future candidates.  It should be on the ballot.  Voted for after the Governor's current term is over even though I would love to see him go.
Lenny Smash

AmyLynne

Quote from: JeffreyS on April 13, 2011, 11:56:30 PM
The process should be very ridged and hard to achieve but it would be a good to have a safe guard for future candidates.  It should be on the ballot.  Voted for after the Governor's current term is over even though I would love to see him go.

If it's done this way... I wouldn't have a problem with it.

As long as it's not a "my guy lost...let's RECALL!!" kind of thing!!


FayeforCure

Quote from: AmyLynne on April 14, 2011, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: JeffreyS on April 13, 2011, 11:56:30 PM
The process should be very ridged and hard to achieve but it would be a good to have a safe guard for future candidates.  It should be on the ballot.  Voted for after the Governor's current term is over even though I would love to see him go.

If it's done this way... I wouldn't have a problem with it.

As long as it's not a "my guy lost...let's RECALL!!" kind of thing!!



AmyLynn, thanks for bringing that up. That would undeed be very disruptive, so the recall would require signatures from 15% of all voters in that particular election, which is very time consuming and difficult to achieve. (btw Rick Scott only won by 1%)

QuoteKriseman's proposed bill would allow a petition for recall to be circulated throughout Florida by voters who desire to do so. They would have four months to collect signatures against a state official from all of Florida's counties. In the case of legislators, the signatures must include a certain number from his/her own district.

The number of signatures would need to equal 15 percent of the voters in the most recent election. A special election would then be held to determine if the consensus is the same among the majority of voters.

If there are not enough votes to remove the politician, he or she would be able to complete their term of office. There could possibly be reimbursement to the official for expenses incurred while campaigning against the petition.

This process could only be used one time against the same person.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110219/tr_ac/7889810_floridians_may_get_opportunities_to_recall_state_officials


More perspective on the recall option:

http://fcir.org/2011/02/22/is-it-time-to-recall-rick-scott/

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FayeforCure

Wow, Floridians are really speaking out!

Is it their anti Rick Scott sentiment?

Just about ready to hit 10,000!!!!!

We should be hitting that target in just a few more hours  8)
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood