School number 4

[David]

Since i'm a relatively new to metrojax, I might've missed this... but with all this talk of saving fire station # 5, it's made me wonder what is to come of public school number 4? I know at one point they wanted to tear it down for a condo development, but the last update I heard was years ago. Is it to remain vacant for years to come, torn down or renovated

[Skot David Wilson]

Annie Lytle School (#4) was designated and supposedly protected as historic. But I and I alone was there at the LUZ meeting on the 6th. to fight for Station Five and Annie Lytle (well, my son, too).
2007-988 was withdrawn and will be reintroduced to define JUST the building, the ground underneath it, and a 12 foot buffer as historic/historic landmark. On the Annie Lytle School, where at LUZ the will attempt to WAIVE the historic designation, the matter was defered.
THAT MEANS WHEN IT COMES UP-SHOW UP and fight it!
People in this town are so lazy at that, and seem to think just that just fighting their own causes is enough. We need to go beyond that, and stand up for everything good that needs to be fought for.
I stood up in support of those who want to stop the extension of Craig Field. Do I live there? NO! but should I stand back and not say anything? NO!
You want to fight for Lytle? Send emails, educate yourself and flyer everyone you see as you walk through a day. Make forum posts and set up a free website. Motivate people so they rediscover their power.
We must be in concert, and our individual instruments can be our individual issues of concern, and the combonation of all will create some beautiful music of change!

[raheem942]

i say save the school it looks to historic to kill

[jbm32206]

There have been many of us that have been waging the war to save it, and the fight is not over.

[Skot David Wilson]

I haven't checked lately. It was slated for LUZ but was pushed aside again. They are trying to loose the historic designation and waive it. You would figure a historic designation would save it, but not with our council, who uses committees to quash things and do the bidding of big money and developers. You see, people don't really go to land Use and Zoning meetings, or finance, or whatever... so the committees do their dirty deeds there, and when a matter gets returned to full council it goes on a consent agenda and vanishes without any further public comment.
We have to protect and keep the historic designation already granted to Annie Lytle (#4).
That means showing up in decent enough numbers to be heard.

[raheem942]

a save it restore it and turn it into a jax musem a muse decated to jacksonville....and everything from scandal ...to presidential visits..........The Jacksonville Museum of North Florida History............all the way back to the crowford days and maybe before that..sum where we can take are  kids on 5th grade feild trips

[Coolyfett]

Something is wrong with that building. That place is haunted. I don't care what anyone says. Something bad has happened at that place & no one will confirm what actually happened there. That place just doesn't feel right. All the stories surrounding that place....I feel bad the engineer knocking that place down. Bad vibes man. Bad vibes. Go there for yourself and see.

[Timkin]

Yeh,,,something is wrong with the building.   Neglect of any kind of maintenance since the 1960s, Vandalism, pentagrams from satanists entering there and grafitting the walls along with all the other thugs .

Its like any other vacant building ... It attracts vagrants and vandals.   Its structurally sound enough that it can and should be saved.  but as far as something else being wrong with it  like ghosts floating around, mass murdering of students by the principal , crazy janitors going on a rampage and killing everyone in sight, I belive there is no truth, certainly no supporting documentation , only spooky ghost stories to these allegations.

We have the vandals to thank as much as anything else for the haunted looking condtions inside this school as my video over at jaxoutloud will show you.    And it continues on a daily basis.

For the amount of money the Foundation has spent over the years boarding the building up, only for it to be broken into the next day, they could have had a well-staffed security company on premise that would have been far more effective at keeping people out, keeping the damage  and vandalism out, and keeping the building a little better intact.

Regardless of the next chapter of its use, whatever that might become,, it would have to be brought up to modern codes.. so its disrepair on the inside , to me isnt that big of a deal..it would have to be redone anyway.

Time, neglect, vandalism.  Those are the ghosts and the hauntings of PS 4

[gatorback]

some snaps please

[Timkin]

PS ... because this building lies technically in the Brooklyn District , RAP has no jurisdiction over it , and there is not a Brooklyn Preservation effort in place.  So the fate lies between  HPC, The Foundation, The City Council and a potential buyer.  RAP  cares about the fate of the school, but has no jurisdiction on it whatsoever.  That directly from RAP today.

[gatorback]

oh, i remember the building now...never mind....level it for surface parking.

[Timkin]

ROFLMAO.. more surface parking.. in Brooklyn where theres nothing to park for and walk to . =)

great idea gator =)

[Skot David Wilson]

If we had a council that has the nuts to stand up to developers or who weren't in their pockets I think there would be a lot more preservation and an overall better atmosphere in Jax....

[Timkin]

Seems possible now that PS 4 may see a new chapter soon...and hopefully it will not involve removal of the building