Let's Secede!

[Jason]

Wasn't most of Springfield a part of the preconsolidated city limits anyways?  That would be like lopping a chunk off of the true Jacksonville, not just some outlying burb.

[wsansewjs]

I can imagine the battle for Springfield begins where you have the marching army of the citizens with the band playing the '1812 Overture' while the city council and Mayor stands firmly on the battlefield prior to the entrance of Springfield.

God Save The Springfield! STAY CALM AND PROTEST!

-Josh

[Dashing Dan]

Instead of kidding around about secession, let's get serious about redistricting.  It's coming up very soon.

[fsujax]

I would really like to see Springfield and Downtown put into the same district.

[peestandingup]

I would really like to see Springfield and Downtown put into the same district.

I agree that Downtown & Uptown need to coexist with each other. And if possible, I'd include everything from the MLK Parkway down to the river.

Although downtown is a whole nother can of worms these days & it would prob be much easier to just do Springfield (both historic & new).

[JeffreyS]

Key West seceded formed the Conch Republic and declared war on the U.S.. They immediately surrendered and filed for Federal Aid to recover from the war.  Perhaps Springfield could do that to fund Skyway expansion into the neighborhood.

[mySpringfield]

How about the entire Urban Core seceding from Jacksonville.  I can see the headlines

"Downtown Jacksonville secedes from...Jacksonville!" 
 
followed by

"Audrey for Mayor"

[NotNow]

 

Might want to check your tax base.

Concentrate on redistricting.

Consolidation is the best thing that ever happened to this city.

[mySpringfield]

Might want to check your tax base.

Concentrate on redistricting.

Consolidation is the best thing that ever happened to this city.

No worries.  The new Jax will simply remove property tax exemptions for religious institutions.    

[NotNow]

And thus, you are again reduced to a small minority of voters.  The majority of this city, and this country, are church goers.

[tufsu1]

Might want to check your tax base.

Concentrate on redistricting.

Consolidation is the best thing that ever happened to this city.

actually the tax base of preconsolidation jax isn't too bad...includes Springfield, san Marco, Riverside, Avondale, and part of Ortega.

[tufsu1]

Might want to check your tax base.

Concentrate on redistricting.

Consolidation is the best thing that ever happened to this city.

No worries.  The new Jax will simply remove property tax exemptions for religious institutions.   

can't do that unless you secede from Florida...it is a state law!

[fsujax]

Just get over the whole chuch, religion thing! enough already. I am so sick of it popping up in every freaking thread.

[north miami]

/quote]

Indeed.And core population centers of that era-Baldwin,Beaches opted out of Consolidation.Although the total land area of the new "City" was huge,most of the area was unpopulated.

During last yera's Mullaney MJ posts,I became curious as to the historical effort to Consolidate.I was actually hunting for brilliance because little substantive value arguments were commng forth from Mullaney,and the lack of a similar repeats nationwide telling.
So I chatted with a key player in the 60's Consolidation movement and implementation as to the brilliance,leadership .I only learned of 'committees'.
Turns out County wide consolidation efforts,referendum stem as far back as the 1920's (T.Stockton in the Legislature).

[tufsu1]

oh. ok...that makes sense