JSO arrests "SIMON", major graffiti vandel.

[BigGuy219]

Alot of his masterpieces have had to be covered over by the building owner.  Go to the Parkview (luckily for him , it is getting demolished)  he has at least a dozen VISIBLE tags there.. I can take you to at least a dozen in the Southside.  I hope he DOES have to clean them up as part of his sentencing. In any event , if this doesnt fix his attitude that doing this is cool, most likely , nothing will.

Instead of jail, he should be sentenced to stay in the Parkview Inn until it's demolished. That'll teach him.

[Timkin]

For all I know , he does stay there.

[Dog Walker]

Kenneth Bell has been arrested for tagging before.  He was ROR and later pre-trialed to thirty days probation.  His tags started appearing again on the 31st day.  Mr. Shorstein's policy didn't seem to work.  He was even defiant enough to continue to use exactly the same tag.

I think Ms. Corey REALLY doesn't like scofflaws and is determined to get their attention and some behavior change.

[Timkin]

Not a very smart young man

[Dog Walker]

This morning the JSO arrested Brett Robert Bell, 27, the older brother of Kenneth Bell (SIKE)

Brett Robert Bell's tag was ATARI which can be seen in almost as many places as his younger brother's tags.  He has been charged with one felony count of criminal mischief and sixteen counts of misdemeanor criminal mischief.

Bond has not yet been set.

23 years old?  27 years old?  These are not kids!

[Dog Walker]

On Monday, August 18, the Bell brothers, Kenneth, age 24 (SIKE) and Brett, age 28 (ATARI) were brought to trial.

Both pleaded guilty to all counts; two and one felonies counts of criminal mischief  respectively and over a dozen counts of misdemeanor criminal mischief each.  Kenneth had been in Duval County Jail for four months, Brett for three months.

They were sentenced to time served and three years supervised probation.  They were fined about $5,000 each.  As a condition of their probation they are not allowed to possess spray paint and are under a curfew from 11PM to 5AM daily.  Any violation of their probation will see them back in court for re-sentencing.

Angela Corey and her staff are obviously taking graffiti vandalism more seriously than her predecessor did.

[Tacachale]

^Good. I hope it gets the message across.

[spankye3]

Mr. Dogwalker. the tags were different. get your facts right. and the curfews from 12pm to 5 am. the $5000 about right. 100 hours community service. SIKE has only been to jail for graffiti. The first time just havin a M3. Hes never been to jail for drugs, weapons, robbery, burglery, or any other crime. He paper work has things like "peace signs were painted" or different quotes including Martin L. King Jr, Einstein, and several other real leaders of a better world. He views were to inspire people and creat a more hopeful enviroment.

Graffiti is a huge culture. Graffitti is also the biggest art movement in history. The only art ever to be created by the youth. Spray paint is the artists next great tool. Its easy and convient. Everything will one day be done by a press of a button. For those who have their opinion about graffiti are probly wrong. Its not about destroying the city. The average graff artist wants their city to look BETTER, it just takes a long time before he or she can paint something "accepted by the public". Some writers paint because its against the law, some paint because their legit artists. Jacksonville does not have a legal wall were artists can go and just paint. There have been talks about it for years and yet I STILL have yet to see it. The among other illegal graffiti would go down dramatically if a place like this existed to the public.  And im still waiting. In the mean time, I do company paintings such as logos on the side of their building or a symbol. I also have dont painting for people such as Disney characters on a childs wall.
Any questions just ask. But please keep your mind open about graffiti and why it happends. It needs to be handled right, if not it can get out of hand. But at the same time, it can be a beautiful thing. What is art if not the ablility to express yourself. Graffiti artists risk their lives every night just to get the message across, i dont see anyone else doin that.....

[AmyLynne]

Mr. Dogwalker. the tags were different. get your facts right. and the curfews from 12pm to 5 am. the $5000 about right. 100 hours community service. SIKE has only been to jail for graffiti. The first time just havin a M3. Hes never been to jail for drugs, weapons, robbery, burglery, or any other crime. He paper work has things like "peace signs were painted" or different quotes including Martin L. King Jr, Einstein, and several other real leaders of a better world. He views were to inspire people and creat a more hopeful enviroment.

Graffiti is a huge culture. Graffitti is also the biggest art movement in history. The only art ever to be created by the youth. Spray paint is the artists next great tool. Its easy and convient. Everything will one day be done by a press of a button. For those who have their opinion about graffiti are probly wrong. Its not about destroying the city. The average graff artist wants their city to look BETTER, it just takes a long time before he or she can paint something "accepted by the public". Some writers paint because its against the law, some paint because their legit artists. Jacksonville does not have a legal wall were artists can go and just paint. There have been talks about it for years and yet I STILL have yet to see it. The among other illegal graffiti would go down dramatically if a place like this existed to the public.  And im still waiting. In the mean time, I do company paintings such as logos on the side of their building or a symbol. I also have dont painting for people such as Disney characters on a childs wall.
Any questions just ask. But please keep your mind open about graffiti and why it happends. It needs to be handled right, if not it can get out of hand. But at the same time, it can be a beautiful thing. What is art if not the ablility to express yourself. Graffiti artists risk their lives every night just to get the message across, i dont see anyone else doin that.....

Where can one see these "beautiful" or "inspirational" pieces of art you are talking about? Cuz so far the only "art" I've seen is where someone slapped their tagger name up on the side of someone elses property. 

[spankye3]

Its gone. Graffiti only lasts a few days. You have to tarvel to see it. Writers can spend hours on a painting only for it to lasts hours on the wall. They leave it up to the enviroment. If a wall is built, maybe you can take some time and admire it then. But if not, its hard to see it. You have to be around the city a lot. The smaller "tags" are a lot smaller and a lot more abundent. But it takes the right kind of place to really put up some colorful work. And i will admit, there are places were graffiti writers have painted on open business'. Im not denying that, but those are the same people that give the rest bad names. Their are bad apples in a lot of different cultures.Bad mechanics, bad fishermen, and even bad police officers.But not all are this way.You cant think thats all thats out there. There is great art all over the city, but you have to look for it. But again, its hard to do something legally if theres not a legal place to do it. And the correct term is moniker. Not "tagger name".

[Dog Walker]

spankye3, the Bell brothers were arrested for vandalizing people's property and public property.  Nothing they did was in the least artistic.

If someone wants to develop their artistic technique using spray paints, I suggest that they use the walls of their parents' house for practice.

[ChriswUfGator]

Its gone. Graffiti only lasts a few days. You have to tarvel to see it. Writers can spend hours on a painting only for it to lasts hours on the wall. They leave it up to the enviroment. If a wall is built, maybe you can take some time and admire it then. But if not, its hard to see it. You have to be around the city a lot. The smaller "tags" are a lot smaller and a lot more abundent. But it takes the right kind of place to really put up some colorful work. And i will admit, there are places were graffiti writers have painted on open business'. Im not denying that, but those are the same people that give the rest bad names. Their are bad apples in a lot of different cultures.Bad mechanics, bad fishermen, and even bad police officers.But not all are this way.You cant think thats all thats out there. There is great art all over the city, but you have to look for it. But again, its hard to do something legally if theres not a legal place to do it. And the correct term is moniker. Not "tagger name".

"Graffiti only lasts a few days." Really? Using some kind of magical spray-paint?

I guess much of the time you're correct, since the property owner has to go buy chemicals to clean it off.

But it doesn't just disappear on its own.

I happen to agree with you about the need for a legal wall though.

[Springfielder]

I don't agree, that any city, state, etc., should offer a free place for graffiti. If someone wants to spray paint, or use whatever they want to display their 'art', then do it on their own property. Sorry, but I have no tolerance for those who wish to deface the property of another. Just what makes anyone feel that this is something that we as a community should accept and provide a legal means for them?

[JHAT76]

Maybe I am confused, but I fail to see why a wall should be provided.  Why can't these 'artists' go to Walmart and buy some canvas to paint on?  Are we saying they are mentally incapable of not tagging buildings?  How about proactively asking a business if they could use a vacant back wall?  Or maybe that is a little too conformist and not quite underground cool enough?

[JHAT76]

Springfielder  beat me to the punch on that point I see.