Election Day: What If Jacksonville Suddenly Woke Up?

[peestandingup]

It's over. I am out of of here. Looking for new jobs tomorrow! This is truly a sad night.

But you knew deep down this was going to happen, didn't you? I know I did.

[dougskiles]

I am bitterly disappointed.  Audrey would have been an exceptional mayor.

Unfortunately, it is time to move on.  I was impressed with Alvin's answers during the debates and will be supporting him in the final round.

If anyone from Alvin's campaign is reading this, I hope that you will encourage him to come on the forum and engage our community in discussion.

[Mueller]

It's over. I am out of of here. Looking for new jobs tomorrow! This is truly a sad night.

But you knew deep down this was going to happen, didn't you? I know I did.

No, I actually thought this would be different.  Maybe because I finally had moved back here and thought I could have some meaningful effect.  But jeez I am so pissed and angry right now.  

[Mueller]

I am bitterly disappointed.  Audrey would have been an exceptional mayor.

Unfortunately, it is time to move on.  I was impressed with Alvin's answers during the debates and will be supporting him in the final round.

If anyone from Alvin's campaign is reading this, I hope that you will encourage him to come on the forum and engage our community in discussion.

I'm with you doug, but the vast majority of the people I tried to convince to vote for someone decent will NEVER vote for anyone with a (D) next to their name on the ballot.

[uptowngirl]

It's over. I am out of of here. Looking for new jobs tomorrow! This is truly a sad night.

Lord, so true and maybbe the first time we have ever agreed-Dt and core is always doomed here so screw them, lets go, are companies want us to anyway-they know backasswards when they see it!

[tufsu1]

The Weavers were just shown on channel 4 and were very outspoken about the voter turnout. I am surprised how vocal they are, and I am sure there will some backlash.

they were even more vocal in the room itself...folks would not like what they said

[tufsu1]

Alvin's success tonight could inspire some voter turn out for the run off. Democrat who did not previously believe there was a chance. Wishful thinking I guess.

turnout for Democrats was higher than expected on the northside...that may because of teh race for Sherriff (Jefferson did better than I thought he would)....but since there Rutherford got 59%, that race won't be on the ballot in May...so turnout for Mayor will likely also be lower

[stjr]

The Weavers were just shown on channel 4 and were very outspoken about the voter turnout. I am surprised how vocal they are, and I am sure there will some backlash.

they were even more vocal in the room itself...folks would not like what they said

Wonder if the outcome of the election would give the Weaver's pause about their future commitment to Jacksonville and leaving the Jag's here.  The Jags need a progressive community that attracts higher wage jobs to provide the premium and corporate ticket and sponsorship deals.  Hogan could kill all that.  Can you see Hogan talking with Bill Gates about relocating Microsoft to Jax?  Ouch!

[peestandingup]

It's over. I am out of of here. Looking for new jobs tomorrow! This is truly a sad night.

But you knew deep down this was going to happen, didn't you? I know I did.

No, I actually thought this would be different.  Maybe because I finally had moved back here and thought I could have some meaningful effect.  But jeez I am so pissed and angry right now.  

Ah, if there's one thing I've def learned from living in this town for 4 years, studying its history, watching its people & the way things work in general, it's to never get your hopes up. Things have remained the same here for decades it would seem & I don't believe its something thats gonna change anytime soon. At least nothing that I'd feel comfortable waiting around 10 or 20 years for. Not when there's plenty of other fish in the sea.

People like us are way WAY outnumbered here. And most of the community are asleep, slaves to this system we're built here for ourselves, or just bumpkins who don't know any better. Sad, but true. Not saying they're bad people, they can like what they like. And if they want a city to be this way & are fine with it, then more power to them. But like I said, life's too short to be fighting so hard & not seeing much results.

There are a ton of bright people on these boards that I feel could really excel in a town that isn't purposely trying to hold them back. Some places just simply don't mesh well with certain people. That's all.

[futurejax]

Some takeaways on this result:

-Money doesn't always win elections.  The two biggest fund raisers lost.
-Endorsements don't always count for much.  Moran, in particular, had most of the big ones and still lost.
-Having a rock solid core base that will give you unflinching and blind love regardless of your deficiencies goes a long way to make up for lack of money, organization, endorsements, and attending public forums.  Hogan and Brown missed more forums and debates than Mullaney and Moran and yet here we are.
-Low voter turnout depreciates the chances for moderate-middle candidates.
-Differentiate from all the candidates, not just one of them. Neither Mullaney or Moran took on Hogan or Brown as aggressively as they pursued each other.  This hurt them and helped Hogan and Brown.
-Run a more aggressive campaign and start it earlier.  Mullaney and Moran, perhaps, were too "polite" and then when they weren't it was toward each other.  I think Moran especially missed an opportunity to more aggressively hammer her opponents and exploit their weaknesses on a variety of issues.
-I thought Moran, in particular, had weak TV ads.  She didn't look the camera in the eye, didn't come right out and say give me your vote, I need it, or otherwise tried to engage the viewer.  Hogan and Moran both had ads in this vein.  And, I didn't think they were successful enough in distinguishing her on her strong points and her opposition's weak points.  Her robo-calls seemed more aggressive.
-If Hogan wins, be prepared for shadow mayor and Tea Party zealot, Tony Sleiman, to cash in his chips.
-Brown's support by the map mirrored Glover's against Peyton.  Be prepared for a possible rerun.  Pundits are already saying Brown must run a bigger campaign to win the uphill battle against Hogan.  I don't give him much of a chance to pull it off but then I didn't see him making the runoff either.
-Don't ever underestimate the shallowness of the voters (and non-voters), especially in Jacksonville.

I have to agree with the bolded in particular.  She was by far the best CANDIDATE but I don't know if she ran the best CAMPAIGN.  Her one ad with voters just nodding at everything she was saying was really dumb.  She needed one ad of her just coming out and saying this is who I am, what I'll do and why you should vote for me.  Probably would've clinched 2nd for her.  And she should've been more agressive in taking on Hogan with regards to pensions for the cops and firemen.

[thelakelander]

Hummm. So I guess this means a new landing deal will get worked out once Hogan takes office?

[uptowngirl]

SOO tue peeing man! Time to move on. I would be surprised if anyone with half a brain is still here on these boards in two years! I guess the only good news is Kim Daniels was losing when I finally turned the TV off. I amsure by morning, although I am sure then hate filled woman will be in first place by the end of the night based on JAX's self hatred....

[tufsu1]

uptowngirl...Daniels may have some hate (and used to be a prostiture)...but her opponent's tagline is "Faith, Family, Fiscal Responsibility"...I doubt he'll be much different from some of our current council members

[peestandingup]

SOO tue peeing man! Time to move on. I would be surprised if anyone with half a brain is still here on these boards in two years! I guess the only good news is Kim Daniels was losing when I finally turned the TV off. I amsure by morning, although I am sure then hate filled woman will be in first place by the end of the night based on JAX's self hatred....

LMAO @ "peeing man". I'm gonna use that I think.

Hey, mods! Can I change my username??

[uptowngirl]

SOO tue peeing man! Time to move on. I would be surprised if anyone with half a brain is still here on these boards in two years! I guess the only good news is Kim Daniels was losing when I finally turned the TV off. I amsure by morning, although I am sure then hate filled woman will be in first place by the end of the night based on JAX's self hatred....

LMAO @ "peeing man". I'm gonna use that I think.

Hey, mods! Can I change my username??

I thought you might '-)