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this news should sell a few hundred tickets, being that we open up, at home, to the Titans - and their rookie starting QB. 

Don't f this one up Jags, it's a good way to set the tone early with a cupcake game against a division rival.

Kerry Collins Retires
Posted by Mike Florio on July 7, 2011, 2:11 PM EDT

APAfter suggesting a willingness to return to the Titans for another season as the starter, veteran quarterback Kerry Collins has decided instead to retire from the NFL.

“After 16 fulfilling years of playing quarterback in the NFL, I am officially announcing my retirement from professional football,” Collins said in a statement released by Athletes First, the agency that represents him.  “The past several months have brought much introspection, and I have decided that while my desire to compete on Sundays is still and always will be there, my willingness to commit to the preparation necessary to play another season has waned to a level that I feel is no longer adequate to meet the demands of the position.”

(Sounds like something Brett Favre would say.  Three or four times.)

Drafted fifth overall by the Panthers out of Penn State in 1995, Collins has spent the last five seasons with the Titans.  He appeared in 10 games, starting seven, in 2010.  He also played for the Saints, Giants, and Raiders, leading New York to a berth in Super Bowl XXXV.

“I feel very fortunate to have played with and to have been coached by some of the greatest the game has ever seen,” Collins added.  “I feel especially fortunate to have played under some of the true patriarchs of the modern game:  Joe Paterno, the late Wellington Mara, Al Davis and Bud Adams.  I would like to thank all of the coaches, players and other team personnel along the way who have shaped me both personally and professionally.  I want to wish Mike Munchak and the Tennessee Titans the best of luck in the future.  I have had a fantastic five years here, and my family and I look forward to remaining part of the Middle Tennessee community has been extremely gracious towards us and an honor to play for.”

Just last month, Collins said he would be willing to return to the Titans as the starter.  It’s possible that he has been told, despite the no-contact rules of the lockout, that no such promises would or could be made.

And so the quarterback depth chart in Tennessee will lose the two men who have topped it since 2006:  Collins and Vince Young.  Moving forward, the job will fall to Jake Locker, Rusty Smith, and whichever veteran the team signs.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/07/kerry-collins-retires/

[Tacachale]

Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

No offense whatsoever to the Giants, but that can't be compared to the NBA. At all. The Giants are very competent and professionally run, but they play in a bush league where teams routinely just miss games or even drop out of the league entirely in the middle of the season. No matter how well you do, or how much you promote, you are never going to fill a venue as large as the Arena with that level of play.

Again, that's not to knock the Giants, just to put it in perspective. The Giants say they had an average attendance of around 2000 a game, and frankly that's a significant accomplishment for minor league basketball. But regardless of how well or poorly they do, it shouldn't be taken as a sign of how well supported an NBA team would be.

[iMarvin]

Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

And must take into consideration that The Giants have only been around for like a year. we'll see what happens over the next few years with them. I would attend their games, but unforuntaely I am not a basketball fan. I probbably would fall asleep. LOL

Yeah, I'm not a basketball fan either. But I'll go to a couple of games if they need help.

[iMarvin]

Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

No offense whatsoever to the Giants, but that can't be compared to the NBA. At all. The Giants are very competent and professionally run, but they play in a bush league where teams routinely just miss games or even drop out of the league entirely in the middle of the season. No matter how well you do, or how much you promote, you are never going to fill a venue as large as the Arena with that level of play.

Again, that's not to knock the Giants, just to put it in perspective. The Giants say they had an average attendance of around 2000 a game, and frankly that's a significant accomplishment for minor league basketball. But regardless of how well or poorly they do, it shouldn't be taken as a sign of how well supported an NBA team would be.

I disagree. Yes, some teams do do that, but if a team is good and they have fans, they will come. Imo, a NBA team is not going to want to make people come watch the game. If people like basketball, they will come. Now, we probably have enough basketball fans in this city to fill up that arena, but I don't think they aren't coming because of the level of play. Some people I know watch the games on TV. (Just like the Jaguars) If they are good, and they are, they will come. I personally don't go to the games (or watch them) just because I don't like basketball.

[Tacachale]

Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

No offense whatsoever to the Giants, but that can't be compared to the NBA. At all. The Giants are very competent and professionally run, but they play in a bush league where teams routinely just miss games or even drop out of the league entirely in the middle of the season. No matter how well you do, or how much you promote, you are never going to fill a venue as large as the Arena with that level of play.

Again, that's not to knock the Giants, just to put it in perspective. The Giants say they had an average attendance of around 2000 a game, and frankly that's a significant accomplishment for minor league basketball. But regardless of how well or poorly they do, it shouldn't be taken as a sign of how well supported an NBA team would be.

I disagree. Yes, some teams do do that, but if a team is good and they have fans, they will come. Imo, a NBA team is not going to want to make people come watch the game. If people like basketball, they will come. Now, we probably have enough basketball fans in this city to fill up that arena, but I don't think they aren't coming because of the level of play. Some people I know watch the games on TV. (Just like the Jaguars) If they are good, and they are, they will come. I personally don't go to the games (or watch them) just because I don't like basketball.

The level of play is huge. A good team is only as good as others it plays, and fans of the sport know this.

Let me put it this way: the best organized, most professional minor basketball league still in existence is the NBA D-League. It is much, much better organized and more professional than the current ABA, in which the Giants play. D-League teams average about 4000 per game, pretty solid for minor-league sports. But in contrast, NBA teams average 17,000 a game. And they play more games.

Even the very best minor league team in the most basketball-loving city couldn't come close to filling a venue the size of the Arena, which seats 15,000. The Giants are one of the best teams in their league, but it's unrealistic to think they could ever draw 15,000 fans.

[iMarvin]

Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

No offense whatsoever to the Giants, but that can't be compared to the NBA. At all. The Giants are very competent and professionally run, but they play in a bush league where teams routinely just miss games or even drop out of the league entirely in the middle of the season. No matter how well you do, or how much you promote, you are never going to fill a venue as large as the Arena with that level of play.

Again, that's not to knock the Giants, just to put it in perspective. The Giants say they had an average attendance of around 2000 a game, and frankly that's a significant accomplishment for minor league basketball. But regardless of how well or poorly they do, it shouldn't be taken as a sign of how well supported an NBA team would be.

I disagree. Yes, some teams do do that, but if a team is good and they have fans, they will come. Imo, a NBA team is not going to want to make people come watch the game. If people like basketball, they will come. Now, we probably have enough basketball fans in this city to fill up that arena, but I don't think they aren't coming because of the level of play. Some people I know watch the games on TV. (Just like the Jaguars) If they are good, and they are, they will come. I personally don't go to the games (or watch them) just because I don't like basketball.

The level of play is huge. A good team is only as good as others it plays, and fans of the sport know this.

Let me put it this way: the best organized, most professional minor basketball league still in existence is the NBA D-League. It is much, much better organized and more professional than the current ABA, in which the Giants play. D-League teams average about 4000 per game, pretty solid for minor-league sports. But in contrast, NBA teams average 17,000 a game. And they play more games.

Even the very best minor league team in the most basketball-loving city couldn't come close to filling a venue the size of the Arena, which seats 15,000. The Giants are one of the best teams in their league, but it's unrealistic to think they could ever draw 15,000 fans.

I think the Giants could fill 15,000, but, like you said, they probably won't ever do it. The thing is, if we get a NBA team and they aren't even good, will people fill up the arena just because they are part of the NBA? Getting a NBA team doesn't necessarily mean that more people will come to arena.

[KenFSU]

I think the Giants could fill 15,000, but, like you said, they probably won't ever do it. The thing is, if we get a NBA team and they aren't even good, will people fill up the arena just because they are part of the NBA? Getting a NBA team doesn't necessarily mean that more people will come to arena.

I definitely think Jacksonville could sell out the arena for NBA games against the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, etc. In order to have an NBA franchise though, you need to have the type of population that would buy 18,000 tickets to weeknight games against teams like the Bucks, or the Bobcats. I don't see that happening any time soon.

[urbanlibertarian]

I think the Giants could fill 15,000, but, like you said, they probably won't ever do it. The thing is, if we get a NBA team and they aren't even good, will people fill up the arena just because they are part of the NBA? Getting a NBA team doesn't necessarily mean that more people will come to arena.

I definitely think Jacksonville could sell out the arena for NBA games against the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, etc. In order to have an NBA franchise though, you need to have the type of population that would buy 18,000 tickets to weeknight games against teams like the Bucks, or the Bobcats. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Does OKC sellout those games?

[Tacachale]

^I agree. More people would show up by far to see an NBA game than a minor league team, just because it's the NBA. But that doesn't mean it would be enough for NBA standards.

As for the Giants, if they (or any minor league team) ever filled a venue the size of the Arena, it would be huge news. It's impressive enough they draw 2000 in a league where you don't even know if your opponent will show up.

[Tacachale]

I think the Giants could fill 15,000, but, like you said, they probably won't ever do it. The thing is, if we get a NBA team and they aren't even good, will people fill up the arena just because they are part of the NBA? Getting a NBA team doesn't necessarily mean that more people will come to arena.

I definitely think Jacksonville could sell out the arena for NBA games against the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, etc. In order to have an NBA franchise though, you need to have the type of population that would buy 18,000 tickets to weeknight games against teams like the Bucks, or the Bobcats. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Does OKC sellout those games?

They've done all right so far; they've sold an average of over 17,000 a game, which is over 90% capacity for them. That's at about the NBA's average, and significantly better than they were doing in Seattle the last several years they were there.

Here are their numbers:

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/awayAvg

[iMarvin]

I think the Giants could fill 15,000, but, like you said, they probably won't ever do it. The thing is, if we get a NBA team and they aren't even good, will people fill up the arena just because they are part of the NBA? Getting a NBA team doesn't necessarily mean that more people will come to arena.

I definitely think Jacksonville could sell out the arena for NBA games against the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, etc. In order to have an NBA franchise though, you need to have the type of population that would buy 18,000 tickets to weeknight games against teams like the Bucks, or the Bobcats. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Exactly! Playing against a known team would definitely bring people to the arena, but if we're playing a team that's not as known, and WE don't have a good team, then we would have problems selling tickets.

^I agree. More people would show up by far to see an NBA game than a minor league team, just because it's the NBA. But that doesn't mean it would be enough for NBA standards.

Exactly.

[copperfiend]

Oklahoma City has done a good job supporting the Thunder so far. But consider that the team has been pretty good since they arrived from Seattle. And they have a bankable superstar in Kevin Durant.

It wasn't that long ago that Sacramento fans were filling their arena to watch a good team. Their fan support has declined and the owners are threatening to move.

[copperfiend]

One huge reason Jacksonville could never support an NBA team is the cost of attending a game. NBA games are really expensive and we lack the corporate sponsors in this town.

[fieldafm]

There is a reason they don't play NBA preseason games and the Orlando Magic no longer holds training camp here anymore... nobody supported it.

The Olympic team also once trained here... but that's gone too.

Like nobody supported the Giants... who are probably moving to play games at UNF next year(probably sealing their fate like so many other minor league basketball teams in Jax).

Like nobody supports Division 1 basketball at the Arena (JU).

That's not to even begin the discussion about the NBA considering CONTRACTNG their league(not expanding), nor the fact that Jax doensn't have the facilities to have an NBA team here(go down to Amway Arena and compare that to Veterans Memorial Arena... the facilities are a universe apart in terms of premium seating/capacity).

The only legitimate future of basketball here revolves around JU's efforts to bring the NCAA tourney back(possibly as a higher round)... which is a great thing for our city b/c it brings thousands of people to the city and fills hotels/restaurants/retail shops.

This discussion is ludricrous at best.

[fieldafm]

To that end... why not discuss the Jags in a Jags thread?

I have my tickets, do you?