Jaguars 2011 Ticket Sales

Started by blizz01, March 09, 2011, 03:48:36 PM

duvaldude08

Not sure if anyone cares, but I just bought my season tickets, yayy!!! Section 216. Im ready  ;)
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Rynjny

congrats man...u won't be disappointed..

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: blizz01 on June 11, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
Maybe the Dodgers will move to Jacksonville........ ;)

LOL! They just filed for bankruptcy...so nothing is impossible!

blizz01

...But Mayor Brown indicated that he'd like to bring the NBA here.

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iMarvin

Quote from: blizz01 on July 07, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
...But Mayor Brown indicated that he'd like to bring the NBA here.

I would love to see one here, but I don't see it even being a possibility for at least 15-20 years. A new arena would be needed and we need the support.

duvaldude08

Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.
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KenFSU

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Quote from: iMarvin on July 07, 2011, 11:16:36 AM
Quote from: blizz01 on July 07, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
...But Mayor Brown indicated that he'd like to bring the NBA here.

I would love to see one here, but I don't see it even being a possibility for at least 15-20 years. A new arena would be needed and we need the support.

Yeah, I agree. We should really put all of our focus on ensuring the long term viability of the Jags in this market before we even think about going after a second major sports franchise. I absolutely love the NBA, and would kill for a franchise here, but you're right, even if we built a new arena, an NBA team would be disastrous in Jacksonville right now. The small market teams in the NBA are bleeding money as is. We would need a bigger population base, a bigger corporate presence to buy those expensive luxury boxes, and the patience to support a franchise that would likely be a minimum of 5 years away from having a prayer at making the playoffs. I question whether Jacksonville is really a basketball city, as well. All that aside, I like Brown's initiative, but there are much better alternative for the NBA right now (Seattle and Vancouver for sure, Vegas, Pittsburgh). A disastrous NBA franchise is far worse for Jacksonville than no NBA team at all.

iMarvin

Quote from: KenFSU on July 07, 2011, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: iMarvin on July 07, 2011, 11:16:36 AM
Quote from: blizz01 on July 07, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
...But Mayor Brown indicated that he'd like to bring the NBA here.

I would love to see one here, but I don't see it even being a possibility for at least 15-20 years. A new arena would be needed and we need the support.

Yeah, I agree. We should really put all of our focus on ensuring the long term viability of the Jags in this market before we even think about going after a second major sports franchise. I absolutely love the NBA, and would kill for a franchise here, but you're right, even if we built a new arena, an NBA team would be disastrous in Jacksonville right now. The small market teams in the NBA are bleeding money as is. We would need a bigger population base, a bigger corporate presence to buy those expensive luxury boxes, and the patience to support a franchise that would likely be a minimum of 5 years away from having a prayer at making the playoffs. I question whether Jacksonville is really a basketball city, as well. All that aside, I like Brown's initiative, but there are much better alternative for the NBA right now (Seattle and Vancouver for sure, Vegas, Pittsburgh).A disastrous NBA franchise is far worse for Jacksonville than no NBA team at all.

Exactly.

iMarvin

Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 07, 2011, 11:28:52 AM
Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

copperfiend

I would not be surprised to see the NBA contracting teams at some point in the near future. Teams in "smaller markets" are simply unable to compete in the current NBA. Sacramento, Indianapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Charlotte. The list goes on.

Right now, the NBA is dominated by Los Angeles, Boston, Miami, New York, Chicago, Dallas and the largest markets in the country. Even when one of the smaller market teams gets a star, they start bolting to the larger markets at the first chance. Wait until next year when Dwight Howard leaves the Magic. That arena will be half empty and the team will be mediocre.

KenFSU

Quote from: copperfiend on July 07, 2011, 12:31:04 PM
Even when one of the smaller market teams gets a star, they start bolting to the larger markets at the first chance. Wait until next year when Dwight Howard leaves the Magic. That arena will be half empty and the team will be mediocre.

Even though I'm really depressed about the NBA lockout, hopefully something can be done to improve the problem you mentioned above. It's absolutely terrible to see the way that a guy like Carmelo Anthony hijacked the Nuggets this year and forced a trade to New York. Or the way that Deron Williams forced out the longest tenured coach in the NBA before forcing a trade from Salt Lake City to New Jersey/Brooklyn. Or the way that Dwight Howard is already making veiled threats about free agency. I have so much respect for the small market guys who play like they're in New York and support their community. Tim Duncan. Kevin Durant. Zach Randolph.

copperfiend

I am not as up to speed on the specifics of the NBA lockout as I am about the NFL one. But I did hear that this past season, 22 of the 30 NBA teams lost money. The losses for the teams in the past few years is in the billions. The NBA cannot survive with it's current structure. Or at least, most of the league cannot.

duvaldude08

Quote from: iMarvin on July 07, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 07, 2011, 11:28:52 AM
Then the NBA is also in a lock out now. Maybe if Brown serves two terms he can get the ball rolling on that his last year in office, but that is not something that will happen anytime soon. The NBA hasnt expanded in quite sometime. Oklahoma got a team by luck. The right place and right timing.  I think we could support an NBA. There are a legion of NBA fans in this city. But I dont forsee it in our near future. Let's work on supporting the Giants, Sharks, Suns and Jaguars for now. I think we have enough on our plate.

I knew we had a lot of teams and that's not even all of them, but that definitely is enough for now. The Giants aren't even selling out games and they're almost the best in the league. For us to even think about getting a NBA team, we're going to get the Giants to sell out first and have continual seasons like that.

And must take into consideration that The Giants have only been around for like a year. we'll see what happens over the next few years with them. I would attend their games, but unforuntaely I am not a basketball fan. I probbably would fall asleep. LOL
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: copperfiend on July 07, 2011, 02:00:07 PM
I am not as up to speed on the specifics of the NBA lockout as I am about the NFL one. But I did hear that this past season, 22 of the 30 NBA teams lost money. The losses for the teams in the past few years is in the billions. The NBA cannot survive with it's current structure. Or at least, most of the league cannot.

In a nutshell, the NBA owners are actually losing money as opposed to the NFL owners not making as much as they have in the past.  A lot of this boils down to the player's unions - the NBA owners allowed their players to have guaranteed contracts - much like in baseball - but the salary caps were mostly ignored - they had to pay an extra fee - luxury tax if you will - to the league for every $ over the cap.  So if you give a guy a $35M contract over 6 years, then he gets it - whether he plays for you, doesn't play for you, goes to another team, etc.  The owners owe that money + the luxury tax for killing the cap - even if a guy isn't on the team anymore.

These owners feel that they are better off by not having a season, aka not paying payrolls makes more financial sense than having a season and losing 100s of millions of dollars.

In football, as I stated before, the owners are still making money - just not what they've been used to, so they are re-negotiating to put MORE in their pockets.  That's the reason the NFL won't be locked out all (probably not any) of the season - because they don't actually lose money until games are missed.
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