Downtown Turnaround, a City Council Candidate Forum Under the Stars

Started by fieldafm, February 08, 2011, 11:43:04 AM

CG7

Since he is running unopposed. Redman doesn't seem to have much interest in letting anyone know his position on the promised pier, but we would sure like to know.... were listening Mr. Redman.

fieldafm

We also don't get a response back from calls/emails.

I really hate to say that, but it shouldn't take calling someone out on a public forum to get responses.

scottwilson

I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

SeanHall

I enjoyed the event. I do wish they would change the order of speaker though. I don't mind usually going 1st or 2nd though. I look forward to seeing most of you out Wednesday night at Art Walk.

Vote Hall on March 22....

fieldafm

Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

With all due respect b/c you sound like an affable guy, but I have quite a few unreturned emails and phone calls under my belt.  I was once directed to go find Mr Redman at the barbershop, which I found quite offputting.  A return phone call or email is expected, especially for taxpaying citizens who have an obligation to be at work during normal business hours.  It is the smallest district in the city after all.

I wouldn't expect to have to track down an AC repairman at whatever deli they are eating lunch at just so I can get a question answered about the AC unit they are supposed to repair.  Why should I expect anything less from an elected representative?

tufsu1

Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

Nice try, but the piers are actually in District 4

Noone

For the two unopposed city council candidates and especially the one who is supposed to represent Downtown the no show at the forum that was named "Downtown Turnaround" was a slap in the face to not only the the Board members of Downtown Vision but to Terry Lorrince, her staff and every citizen who participated and took their time to show up and listen to what our elected legislative representatives are planning to do.

As for the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier the Governor of the state of Florida is aware of the issue. And he is correct in that right now its a local issue. In my opinion its turning into Shipyards III. After the elections it escalates in my opinion to another statewide joke. Scott I've emailed you. Actually I've emailed Don. Do something. Waiting for an email response back. We were there together and both heard that the pier can happen now. 2010-604- What are you afraid of?

Again I give super props to Michelle Tappouni who knows and is making an impressive attempt to understand a Downtown issue that could immediately catapult this community in how it provides access to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River in our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District and how the total Govt takeover of our Entertainment District by a yet created DIA by a recommendation of the Jacksonville Civic Council that would still have to be voted on by our Jacksonville city council will effect our community for decades to come. 

So who's next?
Anyone who wants to see Hogans Creek from the water just give me a call.
Top of the list goes to anyone in the spring elections.
Any of the members of the Jacksonville Civic Council.
Anyone who is participating in the JCCI study which is going on right now and its called Recession, Recovery, and Beyond.
Tera Meeks-New Division Chief for Property Management and Programming
Paul Anderson- the new Director of the JPA
Daniel O"Byrne new Director of Visit Jacksonville.

Be concerned. Keep score.


Noticed Meeting in the Sunshine Open to the Public on 4/2/14
11am to12pm 4th floor city hall.
NEW RULES to REPLACE the OLD RULES
Every media outlet in the state of Florida needs to be at this meeting. HUGE!
Governor Scott
Mayor Brown
The issue is will there be Public Access and Economic opportunity for everyone on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative in our new highly restricted CRA/DIA zone.
Who deserves the title of the RICOKEEPER?



fieldafm

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

Nice try, but the piers are actually in District 4

Agreed, the finger pointing back and forth b/w Redman-Gaffney is also tiresome.  Twice in the last decade both Hogans and the Shipyards failed b/c of a lack of leadership.  I refuse to let it happen a third time.

Doctor_K

Quote from: CG7 on February 28, 2011, 03:06:15 PM
Since he is running unopposed. Redman doesn't seem to have much interest in letting anyone know his position on the promised pier, but we would sure like to know.... were listening Mr. Redman.
It's also a damned shame that he's running unopposed.  I'd have hoped he'd resign in shame after his previous and widely televised antics regarding the UNF professor.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

scottwilson

Quote from: fieldafm on February 28, 2011, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

With all due respect b/c you sound like an affable guy, but I have quite a few unreturned emails and phone calls under my belt.  I was once directed to go find Mr Redman at the barbershop, which I found quite offputting.  A return phone call or email is expected, especially for taxpaying citizens who have an obligation to be at work during normal business hours.  It is the smallest district in the city after all.

I wouldn't expect to have to track down an AC repairman at whatever deli they are eating lunch at just so I can get a question answered about the AC unit they are supposed to repair.  Why should I expect anything less from an elected representative?

I have no idea who directed you to the barbershop. I also do not agree that phone calls were not returned. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I am very attentive to the needs of citizens.

scottwilson

Quote from: tufsu1 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

Nice try, but the piers are actually in District 4

District 4 ends at Liberty Street

scottwilson

Quote from: Noone on March 01, 2011, 06:35:44 AM
For the two unopposed city council candidates and especially the one who is supposed to represent Downtown the no show at the forum that was named "Downtown Turnaround" was a slap in the face to not only the the Board members of Downtown Vision but to Terry Lorrince, her staff and every citizen who participated and took their time to show up and listen to what our elected legislative representatives are planning to do.

As for the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier the Governor of the state of Florida is aware of the issue. And he is correct in that right now its a local issue. In my opinion its turning into Shipyards III. After the elections it escalates in my opinion to another statewide joke. Scott I've emailed you. Actually I've emailed Don. Do something. Waiting for an email response back. We were there together and both heard that the pier can happen now. 2010-604- What are you afraid of?

Again I give super props to Michelle Tappouni who knows and is making an impressive attempt to understand a Downtown issue that could immediately catapult this community in how it provides access to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River in our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District and how the total Govt takeover of our Entertainment District by a yet created DIA by a recommendation of the Jacksonville Civic Council that would still have to be voted on by our Jacksonville city council will effect our community for decades to come. 

So who's next?
Anyone who wants to see Hogans Creek from the water just give me a call.
Top of the list goes to anyone in the spring elections.
Any of the members of the Jacksonville Civic Council.
Anyone who is participating in the JCCI study which is going on right now and its called Recession, Recovery, and Beyond.
Tera Meeks-New Division Chief for Property Management and Programming
Paul Anderson- the new Director of the JPA
Daniel O"Byrne new Director of Visit Jacksonville.

Be concerned. Keep score.

Have any of the candidates agreed to file the legislation?

Live_Oak

Quote from: scottwilson on March 01, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

Nice try, but the piers are actually in District 4

District 4 ends at Liberty Street


The detailed district maps that are on the coj website show that the actual piers in the water are in district 4, but the land the shipyards property sits on is in district 7.  It's quite odd.  

tufsu1

Quote from: scottwilson on March 01, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

Nice try, but the piers are actually in District 4

District 4 ends at Liberty Street

perhaps you should look at your council district maps....notice how the piers are in District 4!

http://www3.coj.net/City-Council/Docs/District-4/2007district04map.aspx

Jimmy

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 01, 2011, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on March 01, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 28, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: scottwilson on February 28, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
I find your opinion that you get no responses from this office completely incorrect. The Shipyards property is in District 7. I would prefer we hear from Dr. Gaffney on the issue.

Thank you for sharing your opinions though!!!

Nice try, but the piers are actually in District 4

District 4 ends at Liberty Street

perhaps you should look at your council district maps....notice how the piers are in District 4!

http://www3.coj.net/City-Council/Docs/District-4/2007district04map.aspx
I'm afraid he's got you, Scott.  The piers are in District 4 while the shore is in District 7.