Abel Harding's 2011 Plan For Downtown

Started by thelakelander, January 02, 2011, 07:27:56 AM

Noone

Tom, Are you going? In a city of a million there were only 4 people from the Public that I would say that we're there and not representing a govt. position. $100's of thousands of our ad valorem property tax revenue up for grabs. Does anybody care? Total misrepresentation by OGC. We have VISION.

Ben Warner-JCCI we need to kayak Downtown before 2025.

Noone

Less than 3 hours out. Huge decisions being made as it relates to Public Access and economic opportunity. Anyone going? Palms Fish Camp- A funding source? DIA Board meeting at 2.

2025 is 2013

Noone

The 2/13/13 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting was over 5 hours long. There were some high points and some low points. Tom Ingram was there for the meeting and I hope he shares his analysis.

Not one person from the media was in attendance.
Dave Roman was a no show.
Kelly Boree was a no show.

I'll start by saying that the Public Trust in this community has been totally crushed and destroyed and lets get ready to VISIT corruption when showing our city from the water DOWNTOWN and we'll start with SHIPYARDS III. The Office of General Council in my opinion gets credit for the total misrepresentation for this future tour. Play the tape and you will be able to hear it for yourself.

Like I said there were definitely highs and lows for this marathon meeting. I must give props to commission members Love, Boyer, Crescimbeni, Hodges, Shine for meaningful engagement. These were the stars in my opinion. There may have been one eclipse. But I have a feeling that they will get it with the next rotation.

I'm writing this after reading Lakes comments from the Live Blogging of the DIA thread and his comments about the Southbank Riverwalk and the closing of the Southbank Riverwalk and the fishing that is currently allowed in that part of our vibrant Downtown. Well, BINGO! That is also what's happening on the Northbank. The previous day I attended the Hemming Plaza committee meeting of the DIA.  The bottom line is that this new Authority will have complete and total control over a 20 square mile area. And a river happens to run through the middle of it. So the legislative actions that are happening right now should be the biggest wake up call for the people of Jacksonville. I'm All In.

So who wants to kayak and fish Downtown under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways and we'll put in at a kayak launch that still needs a Mayor Brown kayak logo.

Ben Warner- JCCI we need to kayak Downtown before 2025

I am Downtown and why you aren't.






Noone

Quote from: fieldafm on January 16, 2012, 02:28:35 PM
There is a new bill being circulated that expands land ownership over water, which could potentially further limit waterway access (even if you are floating in the river).

Has anything happened with this?

Anyone want to write a check for a buck to 2009-442 Artificial Reef Trust Fund for the 6 potential Artificial Reefs in the River south of the Fuller Warren? How about you Stephen? I'll deliver it personally at DIA, City Council, or Waterways.

Talk  about shovel ready. Today before RCD and Finance is 2013-51 and the funding for one artificial reef 12 miles offshore. I support this.

What needs to be addressed is the funding for the 6 artificial reef locations in the river that will also join Mayor Brown in making Downtown a Destination and not a pass through on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

Potential funding sources.
1. $100,000 from Administration
2. Palms Fish Camp -$100,000 taxpayer clawback. OGC. Next to a FIND project.

Lets remember that the Public Trust continues to be totally destroyed in this community.



Noone

Next Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting 4/10/12 and just 15 hours out. Boat show this weekend Downtown. The people that are Downtown for the Metro Park and the Entertainment zone. But Hey! You all just witnessed first hand 2013-214 and the circumventing of due process. 20 chairs for $20 grand is a joke. This was not an emergency.

Don't forget the Jim Love, Kevin Kuzel Berkman floating dock compromise (Shipyards III) and the misrepresentation by OGC to the Jacksonville Waterways Commission during the 2013 FIND grant application process which is our ad valorem property taxes. The total crushing of the Public Trust. This really happened. Governor Scott, please help.


Noone

Great meeting of the LOST 8 hours out. Anyone going? Anybody care? The massive cover up of opportunity. I hope the FBI shows up. Who gets the RICO award for the Waterways in Duval county?

Each launch is a Spark.

Ben-JCCI we need to kayak Downtown before 2025.


Noone

The 4/25/13 4th floor city hall 1pm meeting of the great LOST didn't disappoint. This was a Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) Subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission.

The Chair is Gary Anderson. Also present was Lane Burnett, Scott Shine. Ralph Hodges was Excused and Capt. Jim Suber didn't make it. from COJ was Marilyn Allen, John Jackson and Paige Johnston from OGC. And why not for the record the only other people that were there was me, Councilman Jim Love and Kevin Kuzel of the world famous Berkman Floating dock compromise (Shipyards III), Jody McDaniel from the Planning Dept. and Janie Thomas representing the Shrimpers Association. Thats it.

The big No Shows were Don Redman, Scott Wilson, Dave Roman, Tera Meeks, Kelley Boree.

Going straight from the agenda
I Call to Order
II Chairman Anderson Opening Remarks
III Update the status of FIND Process
IV Discuss Outreach opportunities to get input from citizens
V Outline any multi-year potential projects for consideration
VI Comments from the Commissioners
VII Adjourn

The meeting didn't start on time because a new tape was needed but right off the top I have to give Chairman Anderson props because even though Public Comment wasn't on the agenda he did allow for full participation from everyone to share their thoughts and concerns throughout the meeting.

So basically where are we with FIND. LOST. Don and Scott feel free to jump in here at any time and share with everyone in Duval County how you have potentially crippled this community. You shut down Metro Park. Rip the tables and chairs out of Hemming Plaza and now the potential to cripple a whole list of FIND projects under your leadership. Ben- JCCI is there a Vision statement for this? Now can we get the Mayor Brown kayak logo for Palmer Terrace Park?

Don and Scott, feel free to share with everyone the Pottsburg Creek dredge. The $250,000 design is committed.

Also on the agenda was Outreach opportunities and Commissioner Anderson along with Parks and the Administration want to make presentations to the 6 CPACS throughout the city to explain to the citizens the opportunities that exist with FIND.

The highlight of the meeting for me and there weren't many was under multi year potential projects and Commissioner Scott Shine and the recommendation of the City of Jacksonville Boat Access Master Plan. And this can be done immediately with the help of FIND.
The last was done in 2002 and COJ paid $70,000 and half being reimbursed with FIND. So the plan is to seek $100,000 and get $50,000 from the city. So where would the $50,000 come from? I mentioned that we could get $20,000 if the council sucked it up and used their chairs for another year. Hey, got a smile out of Jim. Also mentioned the open law suit that the city has with Palms Fish Camp that is next to a FIND project and part of the negotiated settlement could be money not only for the Boat Master Plan but 2009-442 the Artificial Reef Trust Fund. Again I have to give props to Chairman Anderson because this is the type of discussion that was happening. Again the no shows from key people doesn't help either. Councilman Love hasn't seen the 2002 Boat Master Plan but on the surface this project should move forward and props to Commissioner Shine and the rest of the city council to get behind this.

Also Janie Thomas brought up a concern with hurricane season around the corner and an emergency plan for bringing in the big shrimp trawlers to Downtown or further south if need be. I have to give Councilman props because he was immediately contacting Marty Senterfit with Emergency Preparedness to address this request.

The meeting was under two hours. I still shared a concern if you think for a second that we are getting more Public Access and Economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative in our newly created Downton DIA zone I say No. All you have to Do is look at the RAM dock. Only opened when RAM is open.

Governor Scott- Please help.

Ben - JCCI we need to kayak Downtown before 2025


Noone

The sequel to the great LOST is 3 hours out and will now be a full meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission at 9:30 1 st floor city hall. Haven't seen the agenda.

Have been emailing and calling Don Redman and let's see if there is a figure for the Pottsberg Creek dredge. No response.
I've just given up on asking you know who about you know what.
Environmental Ethics-Vince Seibold
Boat Ramp Master Plan-Will it happen?
2009-442-Artificial Reef Trust Fund- 6 permitted reefs south of the Fuller Warren- Checks delivered on their behalf. POSITIVE.
Palmer Terrace Park- Mayor Brown Kayak Logo
Sydney Geffen Park-Mayor Brown Kayak Logo
The Jim Love, Kevin Kuzel Berkman floating dock compromise misrepresented by OGC to the full JWC during the 2013 FIND grant application process.
DIA- Downtown Experience for who?
Palms Fish Camp - Corruption
2007-451- Jim Bailey, Lynette Self. Positive
Pocket Parks- Pocket Piers
Ben - JCCI we need to kayak Downtown before 2025

Noone

Ran into Don Redman after the Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting and he said the number is in on the Pottberg Creek dredge. He told me to call Scott Wilson. Scott, What is the number for the dredge? We already have committed $250,000 design. This is a FIND project.

What a great intro into the JCCI Vision 2025.

Noone

The cost for the scaled back Pottsburg Creek Dredge is $800,000. The design ended up being $190,000.

Noone

JCCI-JAX VISION 2025 3 hours out. Anyone going?

Can the city of the great LOST FIND FIND?

Noone

The FIND REEF,                    The LOST REEF
The 5/15/13 meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting can only be described as blurred VISION.

Hey, FBI RICO Interns some good pointers here.

Going from the minutes of 4/10/13 JWC minutes in attendance: CM Jim Love (Chair), Lori Boyer (Vice Chair), CM John Crecimbeni was excused. Commissioners Gary Anderson, Lane Burnett, Ralph Hodges, Ray Pringle, Scott Shine, Stephen Swann, Penny Thompson; Commissioners Ed Fleming and John Godfrey were excused, State Representative Lake Ray was excused, Peggy Sidman, OGC; Dr. Quinton White, JU; Capt. Jim Suber, Waterways Coordinator/Dockmaster;Dave Roman, Mayor's office; Lisa Rinaman, SJRK; David Kaufman, Jaxport; Mike Hollingsworth, USACE; John Flowe, Betsey Deuerling and Tom Mallett , Environmental Quality Division; John Nooney, Recreational Fishing Alliance; Ron Littlepage, David Bauerlin, Florida Times Union; Joe Wilhelm, FNDR; Kevin Kuzel, ECA (Love); Legislative Assistant Marilyn Allen; John J. Jackson, Council Research Division.

The 5/15/13 JWC starts with a blistering Agenda with key No Shows
Jody McDaniel and No FIND update along with signature project Dist. 4 Don Redman and Scott Wilson Pottsberg Creek.
Kelley Boree - No show
Dave Roman - No show
Nobody from the media.
Tera Meeks did arrive later and appears to have an assistant.
Straight from the agenda.

I. Approval of JWC minutes.

II. 2013-265 Ord. Repealing Ord. 2011-239-E, re Heritage Rd& it's closure & abandonment; Auth. Grant of Easements with Riverfront Associates, LLC; Obligating owner to file a conservation Easement within 1 yr.

III. Presentation by the Offshore Jacksonville Fishing Club.             Commissioner Scott Shine/Commissioner Love

IV. Presentation by Environmental Quality Division.

V. St. Johns River Status Report.                                                   Dr. Quinton White, JU

     Water Quality & Manatee.                                                         Dr. Gerard Pinto, JU

VI.  St. Johns River Issue Update.                                                   Lisa Rinaman, SJRK

VII. Old Business
       New Business

VIII. Public Comments

So where do you want to start? This meeting was brutal.
II. 2013-265 Is anyone here representing the applicant? let's defer it.
     2013-289 Oak Harbor Boat Ramp. Let's defer it. Ah heck let just get these out of here. 2013-265- failed and 2013-289 passed.

III. Presentation by the Jacksonville Offshore Fishing Club. They donated a $1000 to 2009-442 the Artificial Reef Trust Fund. Talking with them before the meeting a lot of this money was raised with the El Cheapo Sheaphead tournament. And this was one of a few $1000 dollar donations that they have awarded. Great Stuff. Scott Shine, Please share more info on this.

The River City Challenge 4/27/13 just happened and how much was raised for the North Florida Land Trust Last Year and this year? That should be on the Waterways agenda.

IV. Environmental Quality on the agenda were sitting in the audience but chairman Love just blew right over them. Don't know why.  Vince Seibold.

V. Dr. Pinto reported after a Monday flight that there are 141 manatees in the area. That is so cool.

VI. Lisa reported that the Army Corps of Engineers on May 31st will be the release date of the dredge report. Then there will be a 60 day window of Public comment.

VII. Old Business and New Business is where you want to take the old city council chairs and lets remember there was No Public hearing, No bid, and voted on as an emergency and dump them south of the Fuller Warren and call it the INSIDER REEF.

So at the end of the meeting and the 4 Offshore people who just donated a $1000 bucks to 2009-442 have left the building. So up to the podium come the 4 people with the CCA and they say we will donate $5000 and there wasn't a check or photo op but they insisted and got the naming rights to two of the now 4 in the river reefs south of the Fuller Warren Bridge.

So let's recap that. Initially there were 5 reefs and we increased it to 6 and a secret meeting and now we are down to 4 and just say that you are going to do it and instead of being happy with one reef you are locking up two reefs. And the one reef will be called the CCA reef

Coastal Conservation Association Reef.

Scott Shine had a little bit of heartburn and said what about the Hooters Reef. I think it's wrong and it just screams back room stuff. I shared this with other concerns just hours later at the full Board meeting of the DIA. How about the CBRE Reef, Daily Record Reef, Everbank Reef, Wyndam Reef,  Is this an emergency like the comfy chairs? NO!

It was passed with a Waterways Resolution that is weaker than a city council resolution that would make everyone aware of this slip it in fast one.

On a more positive note the Boat Ramp Master Plan also discussed during the old and new business part of the agenda resulted in Chairman Love leading the way in sponsoring legislation that is being drafted and will be introduced to council. This is the way it should happen. Super props to Shine, Boyer and fellow Waterway Commission members.

During Public Comment I reminded everyone about the Jim Love, Kevin Kuzel Berkman Floating dock compromise misrepresented by OGC during the 2013 FIND grant Application process.

I welcome any correction to the above interpretation of this meeting.

A new Authority
embrace It
Or
it will Embrace Us.




Noone

Secret FIND meeting 7 days out. The Jacksonville city council has been shut out as well as Jacksonville Waterway Commission members as to what is on the list. Share this process with the Vanguard people.

Noone

Quote from: stephendare on February 14, 2013, 11:39:35 AM
Quote from: Noone on February 14, 2013, 07:20:42 AM
The 2/13/13 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting was over 5 hours long. There were some high points and some low points. Tom Ingram was there for the meeting and I hope he shares his analysis.

Not one person from the media was in attendance.
Dave Roman was a no show.
Kelly Boree was a no show.

I'll start by saying that the Public Trust in this community has been totally crushed and destroyed and lets get ready to VISIT corruption when showing our city from the water DOWNTOWN and we'll start with SHIPYARDS III. The Office of General Council in my opinion gets credit for the total misrepresentation for this future tour. Play the tape and you will be able to hear it for yourself.

Like I said there were definitely highs and lows for this marathon meeting. I must give props to commission members Love, Boyer, Crescimbeni, Hodges, Shine for meaningful engagement. These were the stars in my opinion. There may have been one eclipse. But I have a feeling that they will get it with the next rotation.

I'm writing this after reading Lakes comments from the Live Blogging of the DIA thread and his comments about the Southbank Riverwalk and the closing of the Southbank Riverwalk and the fishing that is currently allowed in that part of our vibrant Downtown. Well, BINGO! That is also what's happening on the Northbank. The previous day I attended the Hemming Plaza committee meeting of the DIA.  The bottom line is that this new Authority will have complete and total control over a 20 square mile area. And a river happens to run through the middle of it. So the legislative actions that are happening right now should be the biggest wake up call for the people of Jacksonville. I'm All In.

So who wants to kayak and fish Downtown under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways and we'll put in at a kayak launch that still needs a Mayor Brown kayak logo.

Ben Warner- JCCI we need to kayak Downtown before 2025

I am Downtown and why you aren't.



Nooney,  you were there.  And your audience is quite respectable in terms of readership.

One day out from the next great meeting of the LOST. 10am 4Th floor city hall. Does anyone have any idea of what projects are on the SECRET FIND list? It's only 100's of thousands of dollars of our ad valorem property tax revenue.

JCCI Vision 2025 Implimentation is right after this.

Ben-JCCI,  We need to kayak Downtown before 2025.

Noone

4 hours out. Anyone going? The unveiling of the secret FIND list. Time to pick the winners and losers. Then head over to the JCCI 2025 Vision for Implimentation and at 5 today DIA Board meeting and the ne w guy Aundra Wallace.

Visit Jacksonville!