JSO Negligence Sends Woman Flying through Brick Wall

Started by ChriswUfGator, November 02, 2010, 07:34:51 AM

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Springfielder on November 03, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck WestsiderSo which article were you reading? Or did you just assume that the investigators were JSO investigators and not insurance investigators?  Because from what I read, there were just 'investigators' on the scene and the FTU didn't get any comment from JSO.
Right from the article in the Times Union
QuoteSgt. R.A. Harville of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. Harville gave this account: The police cruiser was attempting to turn left at 11 a.m. from southbound California Avenue onto eastbound 103rd. The cruiser clipped the eastbound-heading pickup, jolting it into westbound lanes of traffic and into the tint shop. "The police vehicle violated the right of way," Harville said.
How much more clear can it be made for you?

Welp, that about does it.  The next day the facts are revealed and I can redact most of my comments.  Thanks all.
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Shwaz

Quote from: stephendare on November 03, 2010, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 03, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Shwaz on November 03, 2010, 11:15:19 AM
Anyone who think you can launch a car airborne over 200 yards (at any speed) off a median  should automatically be disqualified from this conversation.

Are you an accident reconstruction expert? Or a physicist?

Or something else altogether?

You're right. I suggest you both attempt this magnificent stunt on your own so we can once and for all have a final answer  ;)
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

New facts were presented from a 'reliable' source, not just another poster, so it's time to let it concede.  

I still would like to know how fast the other truck was going to clear 3 lanes of traffic if the officer only jolted the other vehicle.
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Shwaz

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Quote from: stephendare on November 03, 2010, 11:42:28 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 03, 2010, 11:38:51 AM
Quote from: Springfielder on November 03, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck WestsiderSo which article were you reading? Or did you just assume that the investigators were JSO investigators and not insurance investigators?  Because from what I read, there were just 'investigators' on the scene and the FTU didn't get any comment from JSO.
Right from the article in the Times Union
QuoteSgt. R.A. Harville of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. Harville gave this account: The police cruiser was attempting to turn left at 11 a.m. from southbound California Avenue onto eastbound 103rd. The cruiser clipped the eastbound-heading pickup, jolting it into westbound lanes of traffic and into the tint shop. "The police vehicle violated the right of way," Harville said.
How much more clear can it be made for you?

Welp, that about does it.  The next day the facts are revealed and I can redact most of my comments.  Thanks all.

what?  wait a minute....

Why start now?  Id stick in there, if I were you, westside.

Don't let a little thing like facts bother you. ;)

Has it come out yet whether or not air traffic control was able to register the flying truck and at what altitude?
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Springfielder

they weren't new facts, that was from the original article in the Times Union "Posted: October 30, 2010 - 2:45pm" Same day as the accident....


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 02, 2010, 07:34:51 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=174198&catid=3

QuoteWestside Woman Grateful to Survive Crash With JSO Officer

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- As her truck was airborne, Linda Horne said she remembers still trying to pump the brakes.

But the only thing that would stop her was the brick and glass front of an empty building.

"I knew I was dead, I knew I was dead, but I looked, my airbag had deployed and it popped my seatbelt loose somehow," said Horne.

Horne survived but she wouldn't be walking away from the crash, she couldn't move her leg and later found out she had a fractured knee.

And she said she also started to realize it was a JSO officer's patrol car that had knocked her off the road.

"It was probably the most terrifying thing I've been through in a long, long time."

Horne said she was driving Eastbound on 103rd Street Saturday morning when the officer pulled out from California Avenue to also go East on 103rd.

She said somehow the officer clipped her truck.

Horne said she ramped up the median, going airborne across three lanes and landing halfway into an empty store front.

Our news partner the Florida Times-Union quotes investigators at the scene as confirming the officer violated the right-of-way.

"I just wish people would drive so much more carefully. There's so many accidents out there," said Horne.

Horne said she will need surgery on her knee and she is getting around slowly, but after her crash landing, she's grateful for even that.

We asked JSO about the crash but so far have not heard back.

©2010 First Coast News

And of course the T-U never heard back from JSO, that's only natural when their communications officer got arrested earlier this week for welfare fraud;

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-10-30/story/jacksonville-sheriffs-office-employee-charged-food-stamp-fraud
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Springfielder

Which is why I posted the complete article, along with the link from the Times Union, and told you it was from the Times Union


Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Springfielder on November 03, 2010, 12:03:17 PM
Which is why I posted the complete article, along with the link from the Times Union, and told you it was from the Times Union

try the link and read the article that is there.
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Springfielder

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 03, 2010, 12:07:34 PM
Quote from: Springfielder on November 03, 2010, 12:03:17 PM
Which is why I posted the complete article, along with the link from the Times Union, and told you it was from the Times Union

try the link and read the article that is there.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-10-30/story/pickup-crashes-westside-building-police-officer-fault-investigators-say
QuoteBy Jeremy Cox

A Jacksonville police cruiser caused a collision Saturday that sent a pickup crashing into a Westside building, investigators say.

Shards of broken glass littered the sidewalk in front of Tint Specialist West in the 8500 block of 103rd Street after the crash. The nose of a battered Mazda pickup truck sat just inside the shop.

The driver and lone occupant of the pickup, who wasn't identified at the scene, was sent to Orange Park Medical Center with minor injuries, said Sgt. R.A. Harville of the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. There were no other injuries.

Harville gave this account: The police cruiser was attempting to turn left at 11 a.m. from southbound California Avenue onto eastbound 103rd. The cruiser clipped the eastbound-heading pickup, jolting it into westbound lanes of traffic and into the tint shop.

"The police vehicle violated the right of way," Harville said.

There is no traffic signal at the intersection.

He didn't provide the identity of the police officer. The matter likely will go before the police review board, he said.
And your point is?


Non-RedNeck Westsider

and here comes the mea culpa - I never saw the article that Springfielder had posted, only the one that CWG started - the facts that I was alluding to were not in the original article, but in the one that Springfielder did post. 

Now after you catch your collective breaths, put my questions in context to the original post by CWG and you'll understand that this isn't political at all - just me going on completely off-topic.
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ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 03, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
and here comes the mea culpa - I never saw the article that Springfielder had posted, only the one that CWG started - the facts that I was alluding to were not in the original article, but in the one that Springfielder did post. 

Now after you catch your collective breaths, put my questions in context to the original post by CWG and you'll understand that this isn't political at all - just me going on completely off-topic.

I really don't think you should let these pesky facts interfere with your argument one bit.

It was actually very entertaining. One normally has to watch Ruprecht's cork-on-a-fork dinner scene from Dirty Rotten Scoundrels for entertainment like this. You saved me the $3.99 at Blockbuster. I think I can speak for everyone in this thread when I say please don't stop. Your arguments are like Occam's rusty Safety Razor with no shaving cream.