Cities that May Have New Streetcar Lines Within 2 Years

Started by Metro Jacksonville, October 14, 2010, 03:50:37 AM

Metro Jacksonville

Cities that May Have New Streetcar Lines Within 2 Years



It appears that streetcars are making a comeback and that Jacksonville may fall further behind its peers. The Community Streetcar Coalition held a summit earlier this year in Alexandria, Virginia where it brought together people working to get new streetcars running in 22 cities across the nation. Curious about which cities are on the move?

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-oct-cities-that-may-have-new-streetcar-lines-within-2-years

wsansewjs

I have personally been to Little Rock, Arkansas and checked out their new streetcars. It is simple, effective, cheaper, and always has the charm that people just want to get on that streetcar and ride around (of course to get them to where they need to go).

Jacksonville, make your move NOW (taps the poker cards).

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

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Doctor_K

Dear Jacksonville and JTA Leadership--

Please start giving a sh*t, remove your heads from your posterior regions, and do something about this.  Now.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

thelakelander

A little info about Boise's starter streetcar plan.



QuoteThe Phase One route currently under study is a 2.3 mile loop running on Main and Idaho streets, extending from Noble Park near St. Luke’s Regional Medical Center on the east to 15th Street on the west.

Boise, ID population: 205,707 (city); 606,376 (Metro)

Jacksonville population: 813,518 (city); 1,328,144 (Metro)

Streetcar route length: 2.3 miles for phase 1

Estimated Capital Cost: $60 million ($26 million/mile)

How will it be paid:

QuoteThe City of Boise is seeking federal grant opportunities to fund $40 million of the construction costs of phase one of the streetcar project. The additional costs would be paid for by the City of Boise and CCDC, and it is possible that a local improvement district may be created to fund up to $10 million of the construction costs.

Estimated annual operations costs: $1.2 million

Estimated fare: There will be no fare.  Riding the streetcar will be free

QuoteNo. We are proposing that the streetcar system be free to ride. Public transit systems often see a decrease in the ridership when any fare, even a nominal one, is charged. In addition, there are costs associated with the collection of fares and the fares generally do not produce enough income to justify the time and expense needed for collection.

Estimated construction jobs created: 420

Fore more info: http://www.cityofboise.org/streetcar/
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

ChriswUfGator

Unlike your example city that's doing it right, JTA is taking the federal transit money and wasting it on BRT.

How dumb.


Doctor_K

"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For while knowledge defines all we currently know and understand, imagination points to all we might yet discover and create."  -- Albert Einstein

CS Foltz

Dumb and Dumber appear to be running JTA.............which would account for a lot of the Dumb decisions being made!

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Doctor_K on October 14, 2010, 12:12:38 PM
...that isn't really BRT.

How dumber.

Yeah you're right, I usually write it out B(R)T, lmao...forgot to put the parentheses in that time!


thelakelander

A little info about Tucson's starter streetcar plan.

Tucson, AZ population: 543,910 (city); 1,020,200 (Metro)

Jacksonville population: 813,518 (city); 1,328,144 (Metro)



QuoteAn approved four-mile modern streetcar line connecting the University of Arizona to the 4th Avenue commercial district, downtown and the redevelopment area west of downtown.

QuoteThe Tucson Modern Streetcar Project will improve connectivity between Tucson’s major activity centers by serving as an urban transit circulator to address the transportation needs of the residents, workers, students, and visitors traveling in the corridor. Additionally, the Modern Streetcar will create economic development, support population and employment growth, improve transit service, and mitigate parking constraints.


Streetcar route length: 4 double-tracked miles

Estimated Capital Cost: $197 million ($49 million/mile)

How will it be paid:

QuoteFunding: There are two funding sources - local and federal

Local

$88 million in RTA funding for capital and operations costs.

$11 million pledged by local utilities

$3.2 million pledged by Gadsden Development Co. for Mercado District improvements

$4.6 million from City of Tucson grants and other sources

Federal

$63 million awarded in Transportation Investment Generating Economic Recovery (TIGER) Grant funds

$6 million of $25 million received to-date in federal New Starts appropriations.

$14.98 million for the Cushing Street Bridge project

An application for an additional $26.45 million from a TIGER II Grant is pending review from the Federal Transit Administration.
http://www.tucsonstreetcar.com/background.htm

Estimated Completion Date: 9/30/2013

Estimated fare: Between $1 and $2 per ride

Estimated Frequency: 6:00AM to 2:00AM daily.  Every 10 minutes during day, 20 minutes at night.



For more info: http://dot.tucsonaz.gov/projects/project.cfm?cip=6638D2BE-FBF1-E5C6-A82F29CBF9A9D531

http://www.tucsonstreetcar.com/
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

JeffreyS

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urbaknight

What's everyone's opinion on amendment 4? aside from too many of the wrong people voting for the wrong types of projects, what are the negative side effects?


FayeforCure

In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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cline

Yes it will eventually, however probably not on San Jose like Faye mentioned.