Live blogging the vote for 2012-296, human rights ordinance.

[Charles Hunter]

Watching on TV I almost choked on my beer when Redman said, "As I understand this ..."  really Don?  understand?

[AshleyLauren]

Watching on TV I almost choked on my beer when Redman said, "As I understand this ..."  really Don?  understand?

ahaha, you kids are crazy tonight!! Seriously though, I think there should be an age limit for city council members.

[Timkin]

Watching on TV I almost choked on my beer when Redman said, "As I understand this ..."  really Don?  understand?

ahaha, you kids are crazy tonight!! Seriously though, I think there should be an age limit for city council members.

Good point Ashley...

"As I understand this "   .......   

[AshleyLauren]

So, I will not start a new thread for this question since there is a mayor-focused thread already taking place on the forum. Therefore lets try to keep this about 296 in regards to the mayor not turn it into something about the mayor.
Question #1:
Simply put, Why is the mayor of this city allowed to not offer some sort of answer, concern, opinion, or questions about a piece of legislation that has a large number of people in this city religiously attending CC meetings and dragging themselves to City Hall during not one but TWO TROPICAL THUNDERSTORMS?? How has he dodged 6 weeks worth of conversation about bill 2012-296. He sure as hell made sure his budget passed and took less than five minutes to broadcast it across twitter last night after it was voted on.

I feel I do not know enough about the Mayor's campaign or term to have an overall opinion about him. (again as all of this is a new interest) But I have been to every meeting and read about this bill every day for 5 weeks and personally, I don't even want to hear his opinion or stance on the matter now. Some things are too little too late and he should have said something by now. So, I am taking a poll.
Question #2:
Do we think the mayor will be able to dodge the questioning about 296 tonight yet again tonight? Or will he actually speak out on something other than his education program and Debby.

In case you don't know what I am talking about:
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/timothy-gibbons/2012-06-27/mayor-alvin-brown-getting-hit-human-rights-ordinance

[urbanlibertarian]

Hope you guys are joking about age limits.  There would probably be younger folks on the council if younger voters showed up at the polls in the same proportion that older voters do.

[Debbie Thompson]

I have to confess.  I stayed home because of Debby, and because I knew they wouldn't vote last night.  At least they can excuse their inaction on the storm, and not gutlessness.  :-)  I plan to be there next time.

I can't get there until 6:00 anyway, and by then there are so many speakers in line. Plus, what I had all written out to say at the first meeting has been said already by others, and better too.  Do unto others and you would have them do unto you.  Be ye kind one to another.  It's the right thing to do.   

Oh, and please don't assume all old folks are discriminatory or senile.  That's discriminatory in itself. As Libertarian said, if you want younger council members, go run for council. Go vote for them.

[Tacachale]

We'll see how well Brown can continue to dodge this issue. His silence is going to hurt him bad in the future, especially if he seeks higher office.

Then there's the matter of whether he'll veto the bill if it passes.

[AshleyLauren]

Sorry to hit a sensitive note, but I never discriminated against the elderly. Nor did I assume anything. My comment is based on fact that Don Redman can no longer fully complete a single declarative sentence nor can he contemplate the repercussions for the comments he makes. Therefore, yes he has come to a point in his career that he is too mentally old to be in the position that he is in. Not a single other member on the council has this problem. I will assume Gulliford is of a certain age, perhaps older or close to Redman, and he does not have this problem. SO, in regards to Don Redman which is who we were talking about I stand by my statement that he is too old to make decisions based on fact for our community. In in no regards does that mean I was saying he is senile. He clearly is not. Biased, yes. Religiously swayed, definitely. Discriminatory, yes. Senile, no.

Debbie, don't feel bad the room was not nearly full last night which is totally understandable. I was shocked they didn't cancel the meeting in total.

Urbanlibertarian, I cannot speak for the rest of my demographic but I vote and have since I was legally able. I dont think someone my age (26) is mature enough for a position like the CC or mayor for that matter. Nor was I inferring that a much younger group than what we have should replace the current members.

[Dog Walker]

Watching on TV I almost choked on my beer when Redman said, "As I understand this ..."  really Don?  understand?

ahaha, you kids are crazy tonight!! Seriously though, I think there should be an age limit for city council members.

Maybe not an age limit (cough!) but there should be a lower IQ limit for sure!

[Charles Hunter]

Ashely - they did not pass the Mayor's Budget last night, they just passed a Resolution that basically says, "We got your Draft Budget"  They will consider the actual budget, which is due in early July, in great detail with - hopefully - with many public meetings.

And teh Mayor's webchat was canceled due to the storm.

[Timkin]

So the new council president decides to appoint African-American leadership over a committee after all the protest---so he appoints Kimberly Daniels??  Seriously?


WTF ? 

[Garden guy]

has anyone stepped up to start a campaign to rid the council of Don Redman and  wierdo  Kimberly?

[Dog Walker]

So the new council president decides to appoint African-American leadership over a committee after all the protest---so he appoints Kimberly Daniels??  Seriously?


WTF ? 

Maybe this is Bishop's way of saying, "Be careful what you ask for!"

[Timkin]

^ Sounds more like another road block to making the bill pass to me... another thing we can add to the long list of things that will never happen because this is, after all, Mayberry Jacksonville, Fl.

It is disheartening that we elect these people into these positions and they can pretty well do as they damn well please. 

Ughhh 

[cityimrov]

What's the current status of this bill?