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Dana Douglas the former national title holder and legend in the drag community had this to say on face book last night. After performing at Incahoots. A performer of her calibre is seldom found in Jacksonville. Dana is Former Miss continental (one of the most prestigious tittles a female impersonator can achieve). Also a former miss Florida Female Impersonator, which is Florida's largest title to acquire.
QuoteDana Douglas OMG!!! I've never been so mistreated or abused!!! Tonight I was escorted out of InCahoots in Jax by 2 security guards at the order of Stacy the owner. Apparently Janet Jackson's "love won't do" is too slow and too old to do n Jacksonville. I'm not kidding!!! That's it.... I offered to change the song to Big Spender but the DJ & Stacey had already crossed over and that was that!!!.
Drag has changed so much over the years. The once respectful treatment of queens is dying. Especially because drag performances are a mainstay to any glbt club's success. Its not smart to treat them as a want and not a necessity. Long gone are the days of bar owners who loved the art and respected the artist. Sad how Jacksonville will fall into the category of just a place you can see show instead of living the experience of cabaret.
Elijah Hebert
Dana, I performed there twice and NEVER AGAIN! The owner and staff are the oddest and most unprofessional people I have EVER met! I think that poodle perm is getting to her brain!! -Hunter
Interrupting somebody in the middle of a number is appalling bad manners, unless their voice is actually shattering the glassware. And Incahoots? What kind of retarded donkey-humping hillbilly name for a club is that, anyway?
I don't like to respond to petty drama, but i feel I must set the record straight. This story posted before anyone cared to check the actual facts.
You all are jumping on the fact that she was a Former Continential (25 years ago) But what wasn't stated is the Unacceptable behavior that lead up to this event. I understand that she was a former Continential but with that title comes Responsibilities, the least of which should be professionalism.
When she was booked, as are all of my other out of town Entertainers, She was informed of the Friday night show policy. All songs must be fast paced with high energy dance moves. She has performed for us previously and was well aware of the policy, and it was reiterated to her upon this booking. When the DJ checked her 1st 2 songs, they were found to be to slow, so she was asked to change them. She then proceeded to go off on my DJ, But my DJ stood firm to our policy, so Dana then demanded to speak to me to get me to over ride the policy for her. I had not arrived yet, but had i been there i would not have made the exception. After much drama & hassle, she changed her songs. While the songs were faster paced, she still didn't give any kind of a dance performance, as was also agree upon at booking. When It came time to check all the entertainers songs for the second show, The DJ found that Dana Chose "Love Will Never Do" By Janet Jackson. Although that is a great song, which would be fine on a Wednesday or a Sunday, it was to slow for a Friday show. So when once again, the DJ asked her to change it, she again got upset, then flat out refused to change her song and said to cut her final number.
Dana would like to have you all believe that she was "mistreated & abused" all because of a song, when in fact, she was the one that was abusive to my staff and her "Grand" attitude was unacceptable. Even tho she showed up unprepared without the type of music that was agreed upon at booking, We would have worked with her to find an alternate song to perform as we did in the 1st show, until she threw out her Ultimatium. She flat out said, she's going to do the song she wants or cut her. I, like most people, do not respond well to Ultimatiums. Considering all the attitude & Drama she created over this I felt it best to just cancel her 2nd half of the show. To prevent my customers from being exposed to any more drama she was politely asked to leave. My security guard was only there to insure that no further drama insued.
It's really unfortunate that it had to come to this. In the 5 years that I've owned the club, I've never once had to ask an entertainer to leave for refusing to do her job.
I Not only appreciate the fantastic Job my entertainers do, but I am very good to them. I support their outside endeavors, and have always been very generous by way of helping my regular house entertainers purchase materials for for outfits, both local and when i travel as well as and help with sponsorship for pageants.
Long before owning the bar, I've been a judge in some top pageants in Florida over the last 15 years. I have seen some of the best talent out there and know what it takes to make it happen. They have my utmost respect and appreciation for the art.
For those of you that were upset over Dana's supposed mistreatment, I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding you might have had.
Staci
InCahoots Nightclub
Quote from: stephendare on April 17, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
Apparently the owner kind of wigged out and cancelled her show because the show was 'too slow'?
After this performer travelled all the way from Tampa to perform for the club.
Wow. That is kind of rude.
Seems like we had some kind of incident there a while back as well.
Stephen,
I am surprised to see that you would post a comment based on hearsay, without checking the facts with me 1st, especially since you have my cell number.
Isn't it the #1 rule of Journalism to check your facts before you print?
And just so everyone knows, I think it's truly a shame what happened. I really do. I'm not happy about it at all but really had no choice. In 5 years, I've never had to do something like that. It wasn't in rage or anger. The club was packed, an here I have my DJ running back in forth dealing with an unprepared entertainer who was refusing to compromise.. Then she threw out an ultimatium. Dana, I'm sorry but you left us no choice.
And Stephen, If there is ever something in question regarding us, please feel to contact me directly to find out the facts.
Sincerely,
Staci
Staci, Dana's comments were not hearsay, they were her version of events. Which of course, you deserved the opportunity to refute.
I cant imagine that this story was so urgent that it needed to be published without quotes from all concerned parties.
Staci,
Let me just say a few words about this.
FIRST, let me just say that it doesn't matter when Dana Douglas won Miss Continental. The point is that she is a former and is a LEGEND in the drag world! Winning Miss Continental back in the 80's was way more of an achievement then today. How dare you throw (25 years ago) in your post, like it is no big deal...DISRESPECTFUL!
SECOND: You have your DJ check their music?? "Love Will Never do" is NOT a slow song...why don't you be more specific about your music type. If someone came to me and told me that I needed to change my music after picking a certain song, I would be pissed. Especially when the song is not a "slow song" like you asked her NOT to do.
THIRD: Let me just say how embarrassed I would have been if I were Dana Douglas and had to be escorted off the property. That is soo DISRESPECTFUL to have TWO security guards walk her outside. You didn't even know that she was going to make a scene...you made one by having her escorted off of the property.
If what you said in your message was true then this is what I would have done. I would have allowed Dana to do whatever song she planned to do...when it came down to paying her I would have informed her that the songs she performed were not of those that were discussed before and she would not be booked at the bar for 3 months (or something along of that nature).
Dana is an awesome entertainer that holds MANY titles through out Florida including Miss Gay Lakeland, which I am the promoter for. I would NEVER escort an entertainer because they refused to change their music, well...I would never tell my entertainers they only had to do fast paced songs. I think you over reacted that night and I also believe that you owe Dana an apology for making her look like trash, being kicked out. >:(
Best Regards,
Marshall Welch
Miss Gay Lakeland Pageant
Promoter/Marketing Director
marshaljr15@msn.com
www.missgaylakeland.net
Incahoots could be bulldozed right this instant , and I would not shed a tear. The same goes for most of the other gay establishments . Nothing but drama and too many sketchy people and drugs go on in those places . Sorry for the extreme bashing , but that is how I perceive these clubs.
I cannot and would not argue that point Stephen. and I hope you nor anyone else takes offense to my opinion, stated previously , personally... there are at least 4 clubs in Jax that if I never step in them again it would be far too soon. ;)
Marshal ,
I didn't throw out her 25 years, as a show of disrespect. It's def not at all what I meant. I very much agree that Dana was a legend in the community. I have never disputed that. My show director who has been with me from day 1 is a former Ms. Continential and also is a true lady of class... as well as the many Former Ms. Continentials that I have had come & perform for me over the last few years.
But Dana's previous title doesn't give her the right to be rude & talk to my DJ disrespectfully or give us ultimatums.
Everyone seems to miss several valid points.
1) She was completely aware of what type of music & dance we put on the show on Friday nights.
She agreed to that when she accepted this booking.. (Her 2nd one btw.)
2) She was not excused from the show because of the song. She was asked to change it to fit in the format of all the rest of the girls, and she refused. "SHE" said in front of all the other girls, for us to CUT her number.
"SHE" threw out there an ultimatium. Nows she's upset when we called her on it. My staff member came back very nicely and said "due to your circumstances, Staci said you don't have to worry about the second show" She said ok and that was it. We never once treated her with rudeness or disrespect.
3) She wasn't "ESCORTED" out of the club like a piece of trash!! I would never disrespect anyone like that, and No one even knew what was going on till her post. We kept it all quiet and professional.
Yes, There was a security guard there to make sure she did leave quietly, but by no means did it appear to be an escort out.
You say that I should have let her do what she wants and paid her, and, put her on booking suspension for 3 months? I'm sorry but I disagree. She was booked and paid to do a specific show. If she no longer dances (which she didn't) or no longer does fast songs then she should have told me that before accepting the booking.
We were willing to work with her to change her numbers up, to a happy medium, but she flat out refused. Only after I said to let her go if that's how she felt, was she willing to change her song. But at that point it was to late.
She's been doing shows for 30 years, and she knows the rules.
Again, I'm truly sorry it came to this.... i really am. She threw out the attitude and she threw out the ultimatium.
I have a business to run and other girls in the dressing room that were about to go on stage, and I had to keep things going.
I'm sorrry if I offended anyone's legend or Icon, but the ultimatium really gave me no choice.
Oh The Drama
Having resently came onto the Jacksonville Drag scene, I have been honored to have shared with stage with several local legends. I have heard of many legends and icons and it brings me to this point that one cannot know ones future without knowing the past. It was legends in the 60's that gave rise to current rights, and my current profession. It was legends in the 80's that helped to bring HIV into the spot light. We should ALWAYS respect those who have graced the stage before us. Such icons as Sondra Todd, Karrissa Wade, Nicole Woods, Kourtny Van Wells, and many more local and national legends . I am sure this is nothing more than a communication problem which could have been easily solved without the drama, headaches, or back and forth bashing of ones character. While I may not agree with how the situation was handled, I do think this situation could have been handled differently. Perhaps we can learn from this ordeal and approve on attitudes and treatments of one another.
I will be cancelling my account....
I thought this was a board to express thoughts and if I cannot express my thoughts than I am obviously in the wrong spot, so sorry.
- Marshall
What was the point in posting my post again??
First I want to say I have lived in Key West Florida for many years. I remember Dana back when she would perform at The Copa Key West. I know entertainers can be demanding in what they want, but they have to remember who owns the bar and what was agreed to. If they do not then they should not perform there!
Trust me! Key West can be a very drama island! But, In the end when all is said and done we "Our One Human Family" in Key West. Stuff is going to happen sometimes, but talking and working things out is the best form to do it! Not post on facebook at 3AM, or Boycott Incahoots because of this. Just my thought! Now back to my cocktail! ;)
omfg, drama spilled over!
Just received this message and wanted to share!!!
I am totally and completely appalled at the actions of the management of this "club" in Jacksonville. Initially, let me state that the song in question is NOT a slow number. It is upbeat, except for the very begining, and in no way should be considered slow.
SECONDLY...... how in the hell can anyone ask the Living Legend Dana Douglas to stop entertaining and to leave simply because, in their opinion, the song she is performing was not an upbeat number.
I have visited the club in question on occasion previously and now will not return. Dana Douglas is a great friend of mine and out of loyalty to her, this "club" will not receive another dime of my money.
Joan Hultquist,
Sunshine State Continental Pageantry
Quote from: InCahootsJax on April 17, 2010, 07:12:25 PM
I don't like to respond to petty drama, but i feel I must set the record straight. This story posted before anyone cared to check the actual facts.
You all are jumping on the fact that she was a Former Continential (25 years ago) But what wasn't stated is the Unacceptable behavior that lead up to this event. I understand that she was a former Continential but with that title comes Responsibilities, the least of which should be professionalism.
When she was booked, as are all of my other out of town Entertainers, She was informed of the Friday night show policy. All songs must be fast paced with high energy dance moves. She has performed for us previously and was well aware of the policy, and it was reiterated to her upon this booking. When the DJ checked her 1st 2 songs, they were found to be to slow, so she was asked to change them. She then proceeded to go off on my DJ, But my DJ stood firm to our policy, so Dana then demanded to speak to me to get me to over ride the policy for her. I had not arrived yet, but had i been there i would not have made the exception. After much drama & hassle, she changed her songs. While the songs were faster paced, she still didn't give any kind of a dance performance, as was also agree upon at booking. When It came time to check all the entertainers songs for the second show, The DJ found that Dana Chose "Love Will Never Do" By Janet Jackson. Although that is a great song, which would be fine on a Wednesday or a Sunday, it was to slow for a Friday show. So when once again, the DJ asked her to change it, she again got upset, then flat out refused to change her song and said to cut her final number.
Dana would like to have you all believe that she was "mistreated & abused" all because of a song, when in fact, she was the one that was abusive to my staff and her "Grand" attitude was unacceptable. Even tho she showed up unprepared without the type of music that was agreed upon at booking, We would have worked with her to find an alternate song to perform as we did in the 1st show, until she threw out her Ultimatium. She flat out said, she's going to do the song she wants or cut her. I, like most people, do not respond well to Ultimatiums. Considering all the attitude & Drama she created over this I felt it best to just cancel her 2nd half of the show. To prevent my customers from being exposed to any more drama she was politely asked to leave. My security guard was only there to insure that no further drama insued.
It's really unfortunate that it had to come to this. In the 5 years that I've owned the club, I've never once had to ask an entertainer to leave for refusing to do her job.
I Not only appreciate the fantastic Job my entertainers do, but I am very good to them. I support their outside endeavors, and have always been very generous by way of helping my regular house entertainers purchase materials for for outfits, both local and when i travel as well as and help with sponsorship for pageants.
Long before owning the bar, I've been a judge in some top pageants in Florida over the last 15 years. I have seen some of the best talent out there and know what it takes to make it happen. They have my utmost respect and appreciation for the art.
For those of you that were upset over Dana's supposed mistreatment, I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding you might have had.
Staci
InCahoots Nightclub
Just speaking practically, since you were the one to bring up professionalism, wouldn't the professional thing to do be to simply let the artist do her gig and then not invite her back again if you weren't pleased with the performance? Seems as though an unnecessary altercation was the real problem in this situation.
As strange as the whole drag thing seems to me, I can easily see how people would feel a line has been crossed. This would be like having dinner guests over and not liking their shirt, or not liking the tone of their conversation, so I get my 300lb friend to publicly throw them out of the house. Probably would have been better to just not have them over again, right?
So you didn't like the songs on the woman/guy/whatever's set list. Well, ok, fair enough. But I'm evidently missing the part where that means your DJ gets to go apeshit on them in front of however many people, followed by your throwing them out of the place and then posting on message boards about how unprofessional the other person is. Glass houses and all that.
And, FWIW, just so we have it straight, she/he was publicly kicked out by your security guards very politely? As opposed to what? Hate to see ‘impolite.’
#1 He/She went to Incahoots.
#2 She thought her butt would be kissed and it wasnt.
Welcome to Jacksonville.
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
#1 He/She went to Incahoots.
#2 She thought her butt would be kissed and it wasnt.
Welcome to Jacksonville.
exactly!
Attitude and drama from a drag queen? Sorry, I don't buy it.
The next thing you know, someone will be saying Fox News isn't "fair and balanced".
'Love will never do (without you)' would be a mid-tempo song in my book. It's no "Miss You Much" to be sure. According to the owner, the Diva went off on the DJ, not the other way around.
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
#1 He/She went to Incahoots.
#2 She thought her butt would be kissed and it wasnt.
Welcome to Jacksonville.
Well you probably could've stopped at #1...lol
Last time I tried to go there, which wasn't all that long ago, I guess I unwittingly showed up on "urban night"? There were cadillacs bouncing up and down in the parking lot, a pit bull chained to a pole, probably 20-40 people wandering around in the parking lot in varying states of weirdness, carrying around beverages they clearly didn't buy inside, and then across the street there were 4 or 5 cop cars just sitting there and watching the goings-on.
I pulled in, and pulled riiiiiiiiight on back out. I literally couldn't believe what I'd just seen. I googled the place when I got home, and apparently they've had real problems with shootings, etc. So I really don't get it?
Here on the one hand, management clearly has no problem allowing the place to turn into a real-life Hieronymus Bosch painting at least once a week, but yet they're so hypersensitive to every little detail that they demand to pre-approve some singer's silly set list and then throw him/her out when they don't agree?
This is like Weekend Update on Saturday Night Live....REEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAALLLLY???
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
crazy talk. Ive been a number of time on urban night and its a hella lot of fun.
YOU had fun, I've been there enough to not go again.
There was also that stabbing in the parking lot by the crazy lesbian last year. I was at 616 when that went down.
I suppose it didnt help that look like a undercover
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2010, 10:09:03 PM
lol. I did have fun. The crowd is fun and beautiful. I can't help it if you guys are cracker ass crackers. ;)
yawn
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2010, 10:09:03 PM
I can't help it if you guys are cracker ass crackers. ;)
Hey, I might be white. But I am not ginger. So you rule the whitey roost.
;)
anothergaydrama, you lived up to your name with this post! ;D
Whoops, meant to include this
Quote from: vicupstate on April 19, 2010, 09:06:10 PM
'Love will never do (without you)' would be a mid-tempo song in my book. It's no "Miss You Much" to be sure. According to the owner, the Diva went off on the DJ, not the other way around.
Perhaps "Black Cat" would have been more appropriate?
That or anything by Slayer. Most of their songs are pretty uptempo.
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
crazy talk. Ive been a number of times on urban night and its a hella lot of fun.
Well you got out alive, is that what you mean by fun? LOL More fun than being dead...
inca hoots
Sounds like a Peruvian titty bar. :D
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 20, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
crazy talk. Ive been a number of times on urban night and its a hella lot of fun.
Well you got out alive, is that what you mean by fun? LOL More fun than being dead...
I think being alive is more fun then being dead myself.
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2010, 12:18:39 PM
nah. fun as in fun. Actually knew a lot of people each time I went. Its a very fun night. Actually one night me and APearson were doing a full night of all the riverside clubs, and we dropped in at incahoots (count me among those who cannot fathom the reasoning that went into the naming) and had a brilliant fun time.
APearson ended up dancing with a dance troupe, and three of the largest women ever stuffed into an evening gown since Shelly Winters used to go the Oscars. Very wild. Also the drinks tend to be fruitier and a lot more like kool aid, which I can appreciate. Im afraid I like liquor either extremely tasteful or full on Junior High Prom sweet.
Well if bouncing cadillacs and gin & juice floats your boat, then by all means who am I to disagree? LOL
In all seriousness I should probably broaden my horizons a bit. But still the point is, they literally let all hell break loose on a weekly basis, but then turn around and get so picky that they demand to pre-approve singers' set lists? I think it's hilarious. If it had been any other club but the one with 7+ shootings/stabbings/etc. in the last couple years, then I'd chalk it up to drag queen drama. But this really seems somewhat schizophrenic (at best) given which club it is...
Seems like they have bigger things to worry about than whether a song is lento or prestissimo, doesn't it?
I have to say the Staff, and the customers were all very nice to me when I visited the bar. I am not a entertainer I just went there to get out and mingle with people when I visited up that way. I enjoyed the music and there were lots of hot men and women there. ::)
Quote from: Timkin on April 17, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
Incahoots could be bulldozed right this instant , and I would not shed a tear. The same goes for most of the other gay establishments . Nothing but drama and too many sketchy people and drugs go on in those places . Sorry for the extreme bashing , but that is how I perceive these clubs.
The same drama and corruptions goes on in "straight" establishments as well. Drugs, shooting, fighting and drama. That is what one expects when going to ANY type of night club. It is not just gay clubs.
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
I would have to disagree. I guess because I am no "thug", I dont think anyone whose white that comes in there is a cop. I actually enjoy seeing whites come through the door and 9 out 10 times I go mingle with them. ( I am very diverse). And lets not forget about the drug raid at metro a couple of years ago... And they are DEFINATELY not black. So it is not a race thing.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 21, 2010, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
I would have to disagree. I guess because I am no "thug", I dont think anyone whose white that comes in there is a cop. I actually enjoy seeing whites come through the door and 9 out 10 times I go mingle with them. ( I am very diverse). And lets not forget about the drug raid at metro a couple of years ago... And they are DEFINATELY not black. So it is not a race thing.
Never said everyone had drugs not sure why that had to be thrown in, but I am speaking from my own personal experience. I made it a little further in then Chris did but its something I'll never do again.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 21, 2010, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
I would have to disagree. I guess because I am no "thug", I dont think anyone whose white that comes in there is a cop. I actually enjoy seeing whites come through the door and 9 out 10 times I go mingle with them. ( I am very diverse). And lets not forget about the drug raid at metro a couple of years ago... And they are DEFINATELY not black. So it is not a race thing.
Maybe I was just distracted by the chaos in the parking lot? Is it like a gauntlet, if I can make it through that, then get into the front door it's like opening the gates of Eden and everything is wonderful? LMAO...come on, to each their own, I saw alllllllllllllllllllllll I needed to see and didn't even get past the parking lot. FWIW, the cops aren't bothering to go undercover on urban night, lol, there were 5 cop cars just lined up across the street idling and watching.
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 21, 2010, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 21, 2010, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 19, 2010, 09:55:51 PM
Well you went to Urban night
Granted and not to sound racist as this will probly but its the truth. I'm to white and if you are anything but black your thought of as a cop inside the club and no matter who you are, if you do that and are able to walk out count your blessings.
That night does have alot of money change hands so.
Fridaynights are gay night but even then its more lesbians there atleast past times I have gone. Mon-Thur never been. Never really intend on going back either to be honest.
I would have to disagree. I guess because I am no "thug", I dont think anyone whose white that comes in there is a cop. I actually enjoy seeing whites come through the door and 9 out 10 times I go mingle with them. ( I am very diverse). And lets not forget about the drug raid at metro a couple of years ago... And they are DEFINATELY not black. So it is not a race thing.
Maybe I was just distracted by the chaos in the parking lot? Is it like a gauntlet, if I can make it through that, then get into the front door it's like opening the gates of Eden and everything is wonderful? LMAO...come on, to each their own, I saw alllllllllllllllllllllll I needed to see and didn't even get past the parking lot. FWIW, the cops aren't bothering to go undercover on urban night, lol, there were 5 cop cars just lined up across the street idling and watching.
Well I wear my bullet proof vest every week so I dont see what the problem is :P
Quote from: stephendare on April 21, 2010, 10:13:17 AM
Its definitely not a race thing. I guess I know a lot of people because a lot of the crowd actually also went to Boomtown's Spoken word events. All this talk is just alarmist pish posh. Very fun and lovely people.
I wonder if the 7+ people who've been shot or stabbed there since 2007 would agree with you?
http://www.allbusiness.com/crime-law/crime-prevention-metal-detectors/13368968-1.html
QuoteAfter seven firearms incidents in 2007 and 2008 combined, Staci Evans, owner of In Cahoots night club at 711 Edison Ave., decided to do something.
Evans said she didn't want the bar to get a bad reputation, especially after a 21-year-old was shot by police outside the bar last year.
If someone wants to wager enough money, I'll happily pay the copying fees for the incident reports, and we can see which night of the week all of these occurred on. But I think we already know.
So again, THIS PLACE is worried about pre-approving all their singers' set lists to make sure the beat isn't too slow? I guess when you're used to automatic gunfire, poor Whitney Houston just can't keep up...
I agree never the less. It becomes a bit much for me at times and I just leave and go home. But on a calm night you can really have a good time. I can say this because I am black.. we are a very violent and angry race. I have no clue why. Its very rare you in any urban night or black establishment (gay or straight), and theres not going shots or someone getting jumped on. I wish things were different.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on April 21, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
Well I wear my bullet proof vest every week so I dont see what the problem is :P
I only have a tack bullet proof vest, it doesnt fit under shirts :(
I am all for patdowns to get into any club btw. Then again I am more worryed about the walk to from or in the parking lot rather then inside the club AS much
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 21, 2010, 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: stephendare on April 21, 2010, 10:13:17 AM
Its definitely not a race thing. I guess I know a lot of people because a lot of the crowd actually also went to Boomtown's Spoken word events. All this talk is just alarmist pish posh. Very fun and lovely people.
I wonder if the 7+ people who've been shot or stabbed there since 2007 would agree with you?
http://www.allbusiness.com/crime-law/crime-prevention-metal-detectors/13368968-1.html
QuoteAfter seven firearms incidents in 2007 and 2008 combined, Staci Evans, owner of In Cahoots night club at 711 Edison Ave., decided to do something.
Evans said she didn't want the bar to get a bad reputation, especially after a 21-year-old was shot by police outside the bar last year.
If someone wants to wager enough money, I'll happily pay the copying fees for the incident reports, and we can see which night of the week all of these occurred on. But I think we already know.
So again, THIS PLACE is worried about pre-approving all their singers' set lists to make sure the beat isn't too slow? I guess when you're used to automatic gunfire, poor Whitney Houston just can't keep up...
HA ROFLMAO
The thread should ended on that because it's so funny I'm dieing here.
To staci's defense, the great thing about doing business in america is that you get to choose who you want to do business with and if you want a fast show then you get to have that.
Well I've read that, if you have to eat crow, then it's best to eat it while it's young and tender rather than old and tough. So with that acknowledged, Stephen pulled a fast one on me last night and tricked me into going to InCahoots, saying they'd moved urban night to another day of the week. I fell for it and didn't realize until we were already inside, at which point I was overruled 2-to-1 by him and his other friend Chris and ended up staying.
So with that said, the oven timer just went off and my crow is ready. They have indeed cleaned the event up, to the point that it's completely unrecognizable compared to what it used to be. They now have lots of security, including in the parking lot, which was now just a normal parking lot with no mayhem, or any other activity in it for that matter, besides for parking.
Inside, everything was under control and running like a normal bar. The people were friendly, and there was no weirdness, no cops all over. Stephen invented a new drink called the "DeSpain" and, though I'm not entirely sure what's in it, it is rather good. You can ask for it at the bar if you go.
All in all, I'm afraid my personal experience with urban night seems to have been left over from a year or two ago. To those who said it is now completely different, you were indeed correct.
Glad to hear you had fun Chris
Well I hate to say it but at this point I would trust Urban night over any night at The Pearl anymore. Couple people I know got drugged Thursday night. Glad I didnt drink. :/
Well Urban night sounds like you had fun now lets do the opposite 616 is doing a Redneck party. tonight!!! i
It's a comedic look at White TrashComedy. I'm going to try and drive up . Should be hilarious.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs442.snc3/25410_1108782375463_1703959185_196791_7092945_n.jpg)
Need rope?
should be a really funny time........