Just a heads up and in case you were wondering what the ten cop cars and police helicopter with spotlight was all about on Saturday - a man was robbed at gunpoint (Saturday night, 4/10) around 10 p.m. at the streetside/walk-up ATM at First Guaranty Bank on King Street. Apparently, a black male in his late teens with three accomplices snuck up and demanded the victims money. JSO caught two of the accomplices, but the armed robber is MIA. >:(
Be careful!
This is why my retired police friend won't go to an ATM after dark. He says anywhere in town not just downtown, Springfield, etc.
Absolutely. It's just a shame when you feel safe in your own neighborhood, especially one as quaint and comfortable as Riverside.
While wise to avoid ATM's after dark, I think First Guaranty should do more to light the front of the building where the ATM sits. Driving by last night, I noticed a bright light over the ATM, but the building itself on each side of it sits pretty dark.
If you must get money on King Street, go into Kickbacks, Wallgreens or Park Place for their ATM. Its worth the trip in most cases. Someone at the ATM is an invitation for something bad to happen, sadly.
You can light the building all day and night and it won't stop them; especially at night. They can lurk across the street or somewhere else and "wait it out" until the right person comes up. Smartness is the key. Always be aware of your surroundings, and/or, don't go to walk-ups at night. If you do, try and keep a "third eye peeled" for people coming your way, walking up, or appearing out of no where when you are at the ATM. I would never use a walk up at night unless I'm carless or just don't have no other alternative; otherwise, I will use a drive through, in which I can screech away or run them over if they try and rob me.
"HU"
I thought it was common sense to avoid ATM'S that are outside during the night. Obviously I thought wrong, and this guy paid the price. If you are going to an ATM like that, make sure it is with a group, and not alone.
Quote from: reednavy on April 14, 2010, 09:18:47 AM
I thought it was common sense to avoid ATM'S that are outside during the night. Obviously I thought wrong, and this guy paid the price. If you are going to an ATM like that, make sure it is with a group, and not alone.
From what I was told they guy wasn't alone. He was with another guy...sucks when TWO men aren't safe. Apparently safety doesn't come in numbers anymore.
I do think better lighting would help discourage robbery if noticeable surveillance and bright lighting were installed (despite my “thought†of this, it’s actually proven knowledge).
Final thoughts…if ATM’s are so damn unsafe at night, they need to have “dawn to dusk†hours!
but what if I need cash for a school book at 3am?!?
LOL
I wasn't going to reply, but SportMotor made me remember having an armed friend cover my back more than one time when I did an ATM withdrawl at night. this is when Handguns and their trained owners are Golden! You watch my back
I watch yours.
It's not the wild west folks...But you all have to watch out and swivel your head for a possible running..kinda human jacking attack...listen for the sound of "Beating Feet" coming at you. ( I have an 81 year old mom with Trifocals..Believe my advice )
Quote from: Ernest Street on April 14, 2010, 10:42:56 PM
I wasn't going to reply, but SportMotor made me remember having an armed friend cover my back more than one time when I did an ATM withdrawl at night. this is when Handguns and their trained owners are Golden! You watch my back
I watch yours.
It's not the wild west folks...But you all have to watch out and swivel your head for a possible running..kinda human jacking attack...listen for the sound of "Beating Feet" coming at you. ( I have an 81 year old mom with Trifocals..Believe my advice )
Now why would
I remind you of that? LOL
and yes Iv watched my friends and vice versa before in Sketchy parts of town at night for ATMing and even a flat tire. I love my CWL
Quote from: Ernest Street on April 14, 2010, 10:42:56 PM
I wasn't going to reply, but SportMotor made me remember having an armed friend cover my back more than one time when I did an ATM withdrawl at night. this is when Handguns and their trained owners are Golden! You watch my back
I watch yours.
It's not the wild west folks...But you all have to watch out and swivel your head for a possible running..kinda human jacking attack...listen for the sound of "Beating Feet" coming at you. ( I have an 81 year old mom with Trifocals..Believe my advice )
Yay, getting shot by paranoid money withdrawers, just another reason to avoid ATMs at night!
Hey JC if you see someone withdrawing money at night, dont walk up on them ;)
Getting held up at the ATM isn't the only way to get ripped off. Card skimming devices are something to be aware of.
(http://www.fraudaware.org/images/camera02.jpg)
A false card slot is placed over the original card slot. The false slot holds an additional card reader used to copy card information.
http://www.suncorp.com.au/Suncorp/personal/banking/atm/atm_security.aspx
http://www.snopes.com/fraud/atm/atmcamera.asp
Quote from: Sportmotor on April 15, 2010, 10:36:02 AM
Hey JC if you see someone withdrawing money at night, dont walk up on them ;)
Thats what I'm saying!
:)
I try my hardest not go to the ATM after dark, however when I do (last night for example) I never really turn my back. When I get out my car I take a look around, insert my card, then turn back around, input my number, turn back around until the cash comes out. It sounds crazy but that robbery on King street is a prime example why you shouldnt have your back turned. Not saying that it couldnt happen even if you are being extra careful, but it could help;
I've been to this ATM a few times after dark and felt a little sketched out.
Maybe a series of booby-traps would deter / foil the plans of would be robbers... plus every late night transaction could be a goonies adventure.
Heck, This isn't the only way to get robbed at an atm in Riverside!! Has anyone else noticed that the ATM by Wasabi now charges $4.00 for a withdrawl????
Yeah that ATM sucks. I walk down to the Suntrust by Publix instead. The reason the fees are so high there is the bank that owns it realized people only really go to that one to get money for food/the bars/etc. They're definitely taking advantage of the customers.
But hey, you can walk into the Tropical mart right there and it's "only" 2 dollars for their fee.
If you are on one of the major ATM groups, the ATM at Publix charges NO fee. Being a really cheap person, that's the one I always use.
Depending on the day and whether I feel like carrying, if someone tries taking my cash at an ATM then they're probably going to wind up with a shiny new bullet hole to show their friends. "Oh I have more cash in my wallet, here you can have it all just don't hurt me...let just me reach in and get it for you..." hehe.
You can't run around not using ATM's and being scared of people. Get your CCW permit and teach the fuckers a lesson.
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 16, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
Depending on the day and whether I feel like carrying, if someone tries taking my cash at an ATM then they're probably going to wind up with a shiny new bullet hole to show their friends. "Oh I have more cash in my wallet, here you can have it all just don't hurt me...let just me reach in and get it for you..." hehe.
You can't run around not using ATM's and being scared of people. Get your CCW permit and teach the fuckers a lesson.
What if they already have a gun aimed at you?
What happens if you shoot an unarmed robber?
If a robber is unarmed, how does he expect to rob someone? Unarmed request for money is called panhandling. Request for money accompanied by a threat of harm, fist, rock, knife, gun, puts one is "threat of great bodily harm" which is the threshold for the use deadly force in Florida.
Chris is right. Robbers are a herd that needs thinning.
Quote from: Dog Walker on April 16, 2010, 01:38:12 PM
If a robber is unarmed, how does he expect to rob someone? Unarmed request for money is called panhandling. Request for money accompanied by a threat of harm, fist, rock, knife, gun, puts one is "threat of great bodily harm" which is the threshold for the use deadly force in Florida.
Chris is right. Robbers are a herd that needs thinning.
I meant what if the robber is not armed with a gun... I should have clarified.
Answer above. Threat of bodily harm.....
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 16, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
Depending on the day and whether I feel like carrying, if someone tries taking my cash at an ATM then they're probably going to wind up with a shiny new bullet hole to show their friends. "Oh I have more cash in my wallet, here you can have it all just don't hurt me...let just me reach in and get it for you..." hehe.
You can't run around not using ATM's and being scared of people. Get your CCW permit and teach the fuckers a lesson.
If you are willing to shoot someone over a few hundred dollars you just flat suck at life and need to go live in the woods far away from other humans!
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 16, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
Depending on the day and whether I feel like carrying, if someone tries taking my cash at an ATM then they're probably going to wind up with a shiny new bullet hole to show their friends. "Oh I have more cash in my wallet, here you can have it all just don't hurt me...let just me reach in and get it for you..." hehe.
You can't run around not using ATM's and being scared of people. Get your CCW permit and teach the fuckers a lesson.
+1!!!!!!!!!
I'v had mine >:3
QuoteIf you are willing to shoot someone over a few hundred dollars you just flat suck at life and need to go live in the woods far away from other humans!
It's not about the money, but the principal.
Criminals consider and fear three things in the following order before committing a crime:
1. Being killed by the victim.
2. Being injured by the victim.
3. The Law.
Unfortunately, #3 does not work so well anymore. We are on the verge of anarchy. Arm and defend yourselves, and don't ever regret any act you are compelled to commit in defense of yourself or others.
Quote from: JC on April 16, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 16, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
Depending on the day and whether I feel like carrying, if someone tries taking my cash at an ATM then they're probably going to wind up with a shiny new bullet hole to show their friends. "Oh I have more cash in my wallet, here you can have it all just don't hurt me...let just me reach in and get it for you..." hehe.
You can't run around not using ATM's and being scared of people. Get your CCW permit and teach the fuckers a lesson.
If you are willing to shoot someone over a few hundred dollars you just flat suck at life and need to go live in the woods far away from other humans!
I guess I suck. Sorry.
But if someone sticks me up, they're still getting shot.
JC, It's not the few hundred dollars, it's the threat of harm; the initiation of violence. If someone opens the door to violence they, or you, can have no complaint about how far I am willing to go through it.
Quote from: Jerry Moran on April 17, 2010, 02:39:41 AM
QuoteIf you are willing to shoot someone over a few hundred dollars you just flat suck at life and need to go live in the woods far away from other humans!
It's not about the money, but the principal.
Criminals consider and fear three things in the following order before committing a crime:
1. Being killed by the victim.
2. Being injured by the victim.
3. The Law.
Unfortunately, #3 does not work so well anymore. We are on the verge of anarchy. Arm and defend yourselves, and don't ever regret any act you are compelled to commit in defense of yourself or others.
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 17, 2010, 08:20:33 AM
Quote from: JC on April 16, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on April 16, 2010, 10:51:30 AM
Depending on the day and whether I feel like carrying, if someone tries taking my cash at an ATM then they're probably going to wind up with a shiny new bullet hole to show their friends. "Oh I have more cash in my wallet, here you can have it all just don't hurt me...let just me reach in and get it for you..." hehe.
You can't run around not using ATM's and being scared of people. Get your CCW permit and teach the fuckers a lesson.
If you are willing to shoot someone over a few hundred dollars you just flat suck at life and need to go live in the woods far away from other humans!
I guess I suck. Sorry.
But if someone sticks me up, they're still getting shot.
Quote from: Dog Walker on April 17, 2010, 09:18:13 AM
JC, It's not the few hundred dollars, it's the threat of harm; the initiation of violence. If someone opens the door to violence they, or you, can have no complaint about how far I am willing to go through it.
What do you all think the reason is that someone would rob you at the ATM?
Let me also ask this, what is the difference between someone robbing you at the ATM for a few hundred dollars or someone investing the pension plans of millions, worth billions in instruments they know are risky, while they bet against said instruments by purchasing insurance on them?
Well the most obvious difference is that I won't be shooting the investor until they stop moving. Investment is a gamble, that's like getting pissed at a blackjack dealer.
I don't care if someone was trying to rob me for $.25, it's a direct threat against me and as they lay there bleeding out, they'll have to decide on their own if it was really worth it.
Quote from: thekillingwax on April 19, 2010, 06:34:30 PM
Well the most obvious difference is that I won't be shooting the investor until they stop moving. Investment is a gamble, that's like getting pissed at a blackjack dealer.
I don't care if someone was trying to rob me for $.25, it's a direct threat against me and as they lay there bleeding out, they'll have to decide on their own if it was really worth it.
+1