http://jacksonville.com/sports/college/florida_gators/2009-09-23/story/georgia_president_wants_to_keep_uf_game_in_jacksonvil
Great news!
They've got too sweet a deal here to leave- it's better for them than a home and home series, no?
I wonder if people realize just how much the fate of this game in JAX is tied to the Jaguars, and having a stadium that can compete and hold serve with other venues.
^ The game has been played here long before the Jags came into existence, and will probably keep being played here without the Jags if they leave.
They won't move this game away from Jax. Its too big of a game to move.
Quote from: jason_contentdg on September 23, 2009, 03:32:02 PM
^ The game has been played here long before the Jags came into existence, and will probably keep being played here without the Jags if they leave.
What if the facilities aren't up to par anymore, because they sit empty the other 363 days a year? That was my point. The Jaguars were the catalyst for the rebuilding of the then antiquated and crumbling Gator Bowl into what it is today. Without them, we'd have the poor man's Citrus Bowl and likely would have lost the game to Atlanta or a home/home series long ago.
Even in the holiest of holies (College FB), the almighty dollar will wallop tradition all day long and twice on Sunday.
A very wise decision in deed. Atlanta just doesn't have the facilities to hold this game, and it be fair to the fans.
If only FSU would make it a tradition to hold a game here every year. When they played Alabama in 2007, that was an awesome event to attend.
Game has just been approved to stay in Jax through 2016.
Quote from: reednavy on September 23, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
A very wise decision in deed. Atlanta just doesn't have the facilities to hold this game, and it be fair to the fans.
If only FSU would make it a tradition to hold a game here every year. When they played Alabama in 2007, that was an awesome event to attend.
Georgia Dome certainly can't handle RV city. Interesting reading all of the posts on AJC (obviously mostly UGA fans), seems the majority wanted it to remain in Jax. They like the road trip. With all that is going on with the Jaguar questions, it would have been devastating to lose this game and its revenue post 2010.
Heard David Lamm interview Rick Catlett this afternoon BEFORE the decision came out. He said losing the FL/GA game and losing the Jags were each unlikely to happen. He then said that of the two, losing the FL/GA was more likely. He believes the owners of the other teams are sympathetic to the problems here and will give Mr. Weaver every opportunity to succeed.
Good for our city!!
Quote from: reednavy on September 23, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
If only FSU would make it a tradition to hold a game here every year. When they played Alabama in 2007, that was an awesome event to attend.
sure, but how many folks went to the FSU-Colorado game last year?
Fact is UF has argued that it NEEDS to have 6 home games every year because of the "neutral" site game against UGA....FSU has had several years with only 5 home games.
Quote from: tufsu1 on September 23, 2009, 11:04:33 PM
Quote from: reednavy on September 23, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
If only FSU would make it a tradition to hold a game here every year. When they played Alabama in 2007, that was an awesome event to attend.
sure, but how many folks went to the FSU-Colorado game last year?
Fact is UF has argued that it NEEDS to have 6 home games every year because of the "neutral" site game against UGA....FSU has had several years with only 5 home games.
Not many. Side note...wish the Gator Bowl game could get an SEC/ACC tie each year especially now that Miami and FSU seem to be trending upward again.
Quote from: tufsu1 on September 23, 2009, 11:04:33 PM
Quote from: reednavy on September 23, 2009, 04:36:15 PM
If only FSU would make it a tradition to hold a game here every year. When they played Alabama in 2007, that was an awesome event to attend.
Somwhere around 40,000, but you have to remember, it was Colorado. Had it been another large name like the Alabama game, it likely would've sold much more.
sure, but how many folks went to the FSU-Colorado game last year?
Fact is UF has argued that it NEEDS to have 6 home games every year because of the "neutral" site game against UGA....FSU has had several years with only 5 home games.
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on September 23, 2009, 10:06:17 PM
Heard David Lamm interview Rick Catlett this afternoon BEFORE the decision came out. He said losing the FL/GA game and losing the Jags were each unlikely to happen. He then said that of the two, losing the FL/GA was more likely. He believes the owners of the other teams are sympathetic to the problems here and will give Mr. Weaver every opportunity to succeed.
That's pretty authoritative, considering Catlett was part of the effort to get the team in the first place. I hope he's right.
Georiga has a president? lol
Rick Catlett really is one of the more underappreciated people in Jacksonville.
^^Hear, hear!
This was great news for the City of Jax and also great news for the Jags..... GO JAGS!!!!
QuoteRick Catlett really is one of the more underappreciated people in Jacksonville.
You obviously do not know the hypocrite who parades around as the President of the GBA.
Quote from: mtraininjax on September 25, 2009, 08:09:12 AM
QuoteRick Catlett really is one of the more underappreciated people in Jacksonville.
You obviously do not know the hypocrite who parades around as the President of the GBA.
Please explain. I'd like to hear.
Glad to see the game stay!
The Florida/Georgia game is all about the almighty dollar, great article in the business journal supports that idea!
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/10/05/story1.html?ana=e_ph
mtraininjax wrote:"The Florida/Georgia game is all about the almighty dollar..."
Thank God there's no fun or tradition involved. Just gets in the way of the greed. ;)
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 02, 2009, 03:00:35 PM
The Florida/Georgia game is all about the almighty dollar, great article in the business journal supports that idea!
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/10/05/story1.html?ana=e_ph
Still waiting for you to back up your Catlett comment with anything. I get the feeling I will be waiting for a while.
I was waiting for that as well. Don't know Catlett personally but he seems decent and at least on the surface seems to be pro-Jax. Haven't heard of any shady dealings or anything.
The FL/GA game's contract is up in 2016. Jax will not let this great longstanding rivalry go, and I expect the contract to be extended. I don't see any way that an ATL/JAX rotation could be done, and that's a good thing for Jacksonville. :)
http://www.news4jax.com/news/city-wants-ugauf-game-to-stay-in-jacksonville/29458100
There's definitely less push from Georgia fans about how the location is making them lose now that they've won the lest three, and will probably win today. Hopefully all parties will see the writing on the wall and get it done.
Sure seem to be alot of empty seats today compared to past years. Especially upper deck on Gator side.
LETS GO GATORS, Stadium looks awesome!!
And The stadium had to contractually add how many extra seats?!?.. ::)
Lol, did Georgia spend too much time partying last night? The swamp may be dry but I guess a dying gator can still bite.
The way I see it the whole thing could pack up and leave with a zinger of a surprise. Think what would happen if Lake City and Valdosta got together on the game and worked with both universities? The I-75 rivalry? A new college stadium somewhere on the border would be a coup. Just saying something like this, a wild shot in the dark could happen! BTW, Valdosta has 3 stadiums that range from 10,000 to 25,000 seats and there is talk of consolidating them all in one place. Georgia Southern is also building a new stadium...
Lake City, FL. POPULATION - 67,531 Columbia County, Florida
Valdosta, GA. POPULATION - 139,588 Lowndes County, Georgia
Total MSA POPULATIONS - 207,119 ...Or a bit bigger then Jacksonville until about 1965.
;) ::)
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See what I mean? This has Valdosta written all over it!
Quote from: JeffreyS on November 01, 2014, 09:37:13 PM
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Aww HELL NAW!
Great game and the DT was full of people!! Go Gators!!
Quote from: edjax on November 01, 2014, 04:07:28 PM
Sure seem to be alot of empty seats today compared to past years. Especially upper deck on Gator side.
empty seats?
Quote from: copperfiend on October 02, 2009, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 02, 2009, 03:00:35 PM
The Florida/Georgia game is all about the almighty dollar, great article in the business journal supports that idea!
http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/10/05/story1.html?ana=e_ph
Still waiting for you to back up your Catlett comment with anything. I get the feeling I will be waiting for a while.
Five years and still no response.
Anyone surprised?
Quote from: Coolyfett on November 02, 2014, 07:31:03 AM
Quote from: edjax on November 01, 2014, 04:07:28 PM
Sure seem to be alot of empty seats today compared to past years. Especially upper deck on Gator side.
empty seats?
I was there, and the place was packed. I had a surprising number of Georgia fans seated around me on the Gator side of the stadium. It was super sweet to see them get the hell out of dodge before the end of the game.
^^^Yup, the announced attendance was 83, 004.
QuoteI wonder if people realize just how much the fate of this game in JAX is tied to the Jaguars, and having a stadium that can compete and hold serve with other venues.
Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, formerly the Gator Bowl Stadium, is the new name after the 1995 upgrades. With the temporary seating, they can get up to 84,000 fans in the stands. But, at a cost though too. The pools and video boards took out 7,000 of the former seats, so these cost the city 1-2 million each year to erect and take down. The pools and video were not built for the FL/GA game, nor for the Country Superfest or even the Monster Truck Jam, sadly not even for the motorcross or Little Gator Bowl.
But they are nice to see from space!
However, the building is showing its age, the food prep areas have not been updated, and the Club Sections are still in need of updates as there are repeated food and drink prep issues on gamedays. If you ask Levy, who manages these areas, I am sure its the City's fault, and visa versa. Not sure the toilet issue from the Super Bowl was ever finally resolved.
There has always been a cost to erect temporary seating for the FL/GA game. It has, up until this year, been in the $660k-700k range.
Starting this year it has jumped to just over $1M, but that has little to do with the pools and everything to do with the schools' (Yeah, that's plural) request for upgrading seating that included backs and cupholders instead of the traditional bench seating that has been good enough up to this point. But why risk losing the game over a couple hundred thousand dollars? Placate the schools and get them to extend the contract for another 10-12 years in 2016, because during the next round of negotiations, we're going to be bidding against a newly constructed stadium in the suburbs of Atlanta.
Too bad that the actual reasons that things happen don't matter nearly as much as the perceived reasons.
Not to mention I believe we will be paying over 1 million per season to convert the Baseball Grounds for the Armada. The Fla/GA game has way more impact economically than the entire season of Armada will have so I think the 1.6 million or whatever it is a good investment in comparison.
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 06, 2014, 08:02:26 AM
There has always been a cost to erect temporary seating for the FL/GA game. It has, up until this year, been in the $660k-700k range.
Starting this year it has jumped to just over $1M, but that has little to do with the pools and everything to do with the schools' (Yeah, that's plural) request for upgrading seating that included backs and cupholders instead of the traditional bench seating that has been good enough up to this point. But why risk losing the game over a couple hundred thousand dollars? Placate the schools and get them to extend the contract for another 10-12 years in 2016, because during the next round of negotiations, we're going to be bidding against a newly constructed stadium in the suburbs of Atlanta.
Too bad that the actual reasons that things happen don't matter nearly as much as the perceived reasons.
The schools wanted what was taken out to be put back. Chair backs, it was not an upgrade
Quote from: bill on November 06, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 06, 2014, 08:02:26 AM
There has always been a cost to erect temporary seating for the FL/GA game. It has, up until this year, been in the $660k-700k range.
Starting this year it has jumped to just over $1M, but that has little to do with the pools and everything to do with the schools' (Yeah, that's plural) request for upgrading seating that included backs and cupholders instead of the traditional bench seating that has been good enough up to this point. But why risk losing the game over a couple hundred thousand dollars? Placate the schools and get them to extend the contract for another 10-12 years in 2016, because during the next round of negotiations, we're going to be bidding against a newly constructed stadium in the suburbs of Atlanta.
Too bad that the actual reasons that things happen don't matter nearly as much as the perceived reasons.
The schools wanted what was taken out to be put back. Chair backs, it was not an upgrade
Sort of. From my understanding, 6,000 temporary bleacher seats are usually installed for the Florida-Georgia game. These seats do not have chair backs or cup holders. When the stadium was renovated, 6,000 more seats (with chair backs and cup holders) were removed. Both universities have now demanded that all 12,000 temporary seats have chair backs and cup holders. The city isn't contractually obligated to comply, but like NRW mentioned, why risk upsetting the schools this close to the contract coming back up for renewal?
Also worth noting that the city is paying an extra $250,000 to expedite the installation due to a "tightened schedule." Not sure what the specifics are or if this could have been avoided.
Quote from: edjax on November 06, 2014, 11:25:06 AM
Not to mention I believe we will be paying over 1 million per season to convert the Baseball Grounds for the Armada. The Fla/GA game has way more impact economically than the entire season of Armada will have so I think the 1.6 million or whatever it is a good investment in comparison.
Not a soccer fan here, but I'd have to disagree with you.
The couple of matches that have been held at Everbank have been tremendous boosts for the city. And while the Armada probably won't have that kind of daily attendance, it will have the benefit of longevity and continuity. The opposing teams will have to travel; their fans will have to travel. Because of that I would believe that their financial benefits will outweigh the upfront costs.
And again, when dealing with all sports, it's more or less a QoL expense opposed to a direct one. It gives us an opportunity to bring people into the city that normally wouldn't come, and it gives the city an opportunity to showcase itself to it's own citizens that normally wouldn't enter that downtown area as well.
Quote from: KenFSU on November 06, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bill on November 06, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 06, 2014, 08:02:26 AM
There has always been a cost to erect temporary seating for the FL/GA game. It has, up until this year, been in the $660k-700k range.
Starting this year it has jumped to just over $1M, but that has little to do with the pools and everything to do with the schools' (Yeah, that's plural) request for upgrading seating that included backs and cupholders instead of the traditional bench seating that has been good enough up to this point. But why risk losing the game over a couple hundred thousand dollars? Placate the schools and get them to extend the contract for another 10-12 years in 2016, because during the next round of negotiations, we're going to be bidding against a newly constructed stadium in the suburbs of Atlanta.
Too bad that the actual reasons that things happen don't matter nearly as much as the perceived reasons.
The schools wanted what was taken out to be put back. Chair backs, it was not an upgrade
Sort of. From my understanding, 6,000 temporary bleacher seats are usually installed for the Florida-Georgia game. These seats do not have chair backs or cup holders. When the stadium was renovated, 6,000 more seats (with chair backs and cup holders) were removed. Both universities have now demanded that all 12,000 temporary seats have chair backs and cup holders. The city isn't contractually obligated to comply, but like NRW mentioned, why risk upsetting the schools this close to the contract coming back up for renewal?
Also worth noting that the city is paying an extra $250,000 to expedite the installation due to a "tightened schedule." Not sure what the specifics are or if this could have been avoided.
"Tightened schedule" meant the mayor's office screwed up again and didn't factor in exactly what was going to be needed. Similar to the "emergency measures" brought on by the mayor after they let the water taxi leases expire. It shouldn't be quite so expensive in the future. But yes, it will always be more expensive from here on, since there are twice as many seats to add, and it looks like we'll be doing the nicer backed seats.
^^ I was not saying it was not good business to do what the city will be doing for the Armada. Not really sure what the prior soccer events at Everbank has to do with the one million annual figure to reconfigure the Baseball Grounds for a soccer pitch. My point is I think both are legitimate expenditures, but I still think the fla/ga game will continue to have much more economical impact in the region than the Armada. And yes Armada hopefully will have longevity, but the football game has already proven its longetivity. Btw my guess is the Armada will be thrilled if they were to average 9000 per match.
The 12,000 replacement seats were quoted as costing 1.3 million per the city of Jacksonville documents, released a month before the FL/GA game.
More talk of this game potentially leaving for ATL or Tampa of all places... I don't think that this game is going anywhere. Oh and yeah, them Dawgs took a thrashing.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/is-floridageorgia-going-to-stay-in-jax/36159478
The only place this game would ever go but JAX is Gainesville or Athens. It's been played here for nearly a hundred years, anywhere else and it wouldn't be the same. End of story.
Was the pool open?
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 31, 2015, 10:14:36 PM
Was the pool open?
The pools were closed due to the addition of the temporary seating.
So sorry to disappoint the "Anybody but Florida" crowd but that was an epic beating. Epic !!!
^ An epic beating...really? If the UF offense plays like that against a team with ANY scoring ability, they may have a problem.
The only thing epic was the offences futility.
Georgia is bad. The Gators have one quality win. ONE. Versus Ole Miss.
East Carolina 4-5
Tennessee 4-4
Missouri 4-4
Kentucky 4-4
They lost to LSU.
Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
Georgia is bad. The Gators have one quality win. ONE. Versus Ole Miss.
East Carolina 4-5
Tennessee 4-4
Missouri 4-4
Kentucky 4-4
They lost to LSU.
Really? Wow. FSU opponents right now.
Texas St 2-6
USF 4-4
BC 3-6
Wake Forest 3-6
Miami 5-3
Louisville 4-4
L Ga Tech 3-6
Syracuse 3-5
That's a combined 27-40.
As a courtesy I left out New Mexico State (1-7). A quality win.
Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2015, 10:29:31 PM
As a courtesy I left out New Mexico State (1-7). A quality win.
Lol. Including New Mexico St, UF's opponents' combined record is like 7 or 8 games over .500, rather than 13 games below. RPI's strength of schedule rankings has UF at
39 and FSU
141. As usual, I do not claim that
this proves UF is better than FSU this year, I just find it silly that you'd attempt to present this as a weakness given the Noles' situation.
"Given the Noles situation."
Yea, it sucks to win 37 out of your last 40 games.
"– Let's give a round of applause for what Jimbo Fisher has built at Florida State. The 'Noles 46-4 mark over their last 50 games is two games better than Alabama, three better than Oregon and five better than Ohio State."
You wanna post the Gators record over their last 50 games, please;)
Quote from: MusicMan on November 02, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
"Given the Noles situation."
Yea, it sucks to win 37 out of your last 40 games.
"– Let's give a round of applause for what Jimbo Fisher has built at Florida State. The 'Noles 46-4 mark over their last 50 games is two games better than Alabama, three better than Oregon and five better than Ohio State."
You wanna post the Gators record over their last 50 games, please;)
I expect this kind of thing helps achieving those impressive numbers:
Quote
Texas St 2-6
USF 4-4
BC 3-6
Wake Forest 3-6
Miami 5-3
Louisville 4-4
L Ga Tech 3-6
Syracuse 3-5
"I felt, Paul, that it was too difficult to win through the SEC to win a national championship," Bowden stated. "I felt like our best route would be to go through the ACC and that did prove out to be correct. But, I don't know if we could have made it through the SEC."
Quote from: MusicMan on November 02, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
"Given the Noles situation."
Yea, it sucks to win 37 out of your last 40 games.
"– Let's give a round of applause for what Jimbo Fisher has built at Florida State. The 'Noles 46-4 mark over their last 50 games is two games better than Alabama, three better than Oregon and five better than Ohio State."
You wanna post the Gators record over their last 50 games, please;)
Sure, Gators are 32-18 over the last 50. No idea why that's relevant to my comment about how it's ridiculous for you to bring up this year's strength of schedule as a knock on the gators...
If you are expecting rational commentary from me this time of year you will be sadly disappointed :)
My opinion: SEC overrated in general. Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri and Georgia, Auburn, Miss State are average teams.
I reserve the right to be wrong about that. Best team in SEC are BAMA and LSU. OLE MISS Good not great. Gators Good not Great.
Seminoles are TBA. 2 huge road games ahead of them that will tell us a lot about this group. I think they can win both. I care more that they
play well than if they win. BUT I WANT THEM TO WIN. That is what was so disappointing abut Ga Tech. They played like crap.
Quote from: MusicMan on November 02, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
If you are expecting rational commentary from me this time of year you will be sadly disappointed :)
My opinion: SEC overrated in general. Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri and Georgia, Auburn, Miss State are average teams.
I reserve the right to be wrong about that. Best team in SEC are BAMA and LSU. OLE MISS Good not great. Gators Good not Great.
Seminoles are TBA. 2 huge road games ahead of them that will tell us a lot about this group. I think they can win both. I care more that they
play well than if they win. BUT I WANT THEM TO WIN. That is what was so disappointing abut Ga Tech. They played like crap.
The SEC may be overrated this season. But there is little doubt it tends to be one of the stronger conferences. It has more depth than the ACC or most of the others.
Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
Georgia is bad. The Gators have one quality win. ONE. Versus Ole Miss.
East Carolina 4-5
Tennessee 4-4
Missouri 4-4
Kentucky 4-4
They lost to LSU.
And FSU has zero quality wins, and one bad loss. Florida has one quality win and one "good" loss. I would say FSU is in a worse spot than UF this year until proven otherwise with say a win over Clemson or Florida. The jury is still out on both teams as well as just about everyone else in the country. Kind of a funny year, it seems like it's hard to get a grasp on who's great and who's not this year and we are 9 weeks deep. It will come down to the wire with the top ten teams.
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 01, 2015, 11:52:40 PM
Lol. Including New Mexico St, UF's opponents' combined record is like 7 or 8 games over .500, rather than 13 games below. RPI's strength of schedule rankings has UF at 39 and FSU 141. As usual, I do not claim that this proves UF is better than FSU this year, I just find it silly that you'd attempt to present this as a weakness given the Noles' situation.
I am ashamed of FSU's schedule this year. It is incumbent on them to schedule at least 2 quality out of conference teams per year...helps with strength of schedule and selling seats in the stadium.
Quote from: Gators312 on November 02, 2015, 09:57:13 AM
"I felt, Paul, that it was too difficult to win through the SEC to win a national championship," Bowden stated. "I felt like our best route would be to go through the ACC and that did prove out to be correct. But, I don't know if we could have made it through the SEC."
Thank you for bringing us back to 1991....you know, the year after an ACC team (GA Tech) won the National Title
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 02, 2015, 03:29:16 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 01, 2015, 11:52:40 PM
Lol. Including New Mexico St, UF's opponents' combined record is like 7 or 8 games over .500, rather than 13 games below. RPI's strength of schedule rankings has UF at 39 and FSU 141. As usual, I do not claim that this proves UF is better than FSU this year, I just find it silly that you'd attempt to present this as a weakness given the Noles' situation.
I am ashamed of FSU's schedule this year. It is incumbent on them to schedule at least 2 quality out of conference teams per year...helps with strength of schedule and selling seats in the stadium.
Typically try to keep OOC schedule weak in odd number years. At UF and at Clemson in those years. That being said, we do have Bame for 2017. I heat they're a pretty tough team.
Quote from: MusicMan on November 02, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
If you are expecting rational commentary from me this time of year you will be sadly disappointed :)
Fair enough! I learned long ago to expect the same from Lake re: Miami sports teams so I'll make a note for you as well.
Quote from: Bridges on November 02, 2015, 03:33:50 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 02, 2015, 03:29:16 PM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 01, 2015, 11:52:40 PM
Lol. Including New Mexico St, UF's opponents' combined record is like 7 or 8 games over .500, rather than 13 games below. RPI's strength of schedule rankings has UF at 39 and FSU 141. As usual, I do not claim that this proves UF is better than FSU this year, I just find it silly that you'd attempt to present this as a weakness given the Noles' situation.
I am ashamed of FSU's schedule this year. It is incumbent on them to schedule at least 2 quality out of conference teams per year...helps with strength of schedule and selling seats in the stadium.
Typically try to keep OOC schedule weak in odd number years. At UF and at Clemson in those years. That being said, we do have Bame for 2017. I heat they're a pretty tough team.
yep...Ole Miss in 2016, Bama in 2017, and Auburn possibly in 2019...plus Notre Dame will be in there at least once.
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on November 02, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on November 02, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
If you are expecting rational commentary from me this time of year you will be sadly disappointed :)
Fair enough! I learned long ago to expect the same from Lake re: Miami sports teams so I'll make a note for you as well.
Enjoy!
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haha, did you watch that one live, Lake? I feel a little bad for Duke but not that bad.
Why feel bad for Duke? They never crossed the goal line on the TD that gave them the lead, which led to the return. They should have never gotten to the goal line on their final drive, if not for the large number of questionable calls, including one eliminating an interception. Game should have already been over. No one felt bad for the Canes when that phantom flag was thrown against them, leading to OSU's overtime win.....and that was a national championship game. This was a game of two mediocre teams. Duke and their fans can go screw themselves. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: thelakelander on November 03, 2015, 06:28:03 AM
Why feel bad for Duke?
Cause that has got to be the worst way to lose at home.
Quote from: thelakelander on November 03, 2015, 06:28:03 AM
No one felt bad for the Canes when that phantom flag was thrown against them, leading to OSU's overtime win.....and that was a national championship game.
I felt a little bad too. I don't/didnt like either team, but I guess that's why I was able to feel bad. Also was not a fan of Maurice Clarett.
Quote from: thelakelander on November 03, 2015, 06:28:03 AM
Why feel bad for Duke?
I never root for Miami, but I'd be lying if I said i didn't enjoy a Tobacco Road school getting screwed for once. The ACC is so biased towards them it is absurd.
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 02, 2015, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Gators312 on November 02, 2015, 09:57:13 AM
"I felt, Paul, that it was too difficult to win through the SEC to win a national championship," Bowden stated. "I felt like our best route would be to go through the ACC and that did prove out to be correct. But, I don't know if we could have made it through the SEC."
Thank you for bringing us back to 1991....you know, the year after an ACC team (GA Tech) won the National Title
Slight correction . . . a
bogus national title for the Ramblin' Wreck.
And Ennis, you're quite right. Duke needs to STFU -- 23 freaking penalties ! ? ! There's something seriously wrong with those ACC refs. One year (after the Swindle in the Swamp, when they were banned and told never to bring their sorry ass back to God's Country) they called 13 total penalties against UF in Tallahassee *before* they ever spotted a foul on the Noles. The reason people don't respect the ACC is largely because of that kind of stuff. Just flat-out, blatant cheating.