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Title: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: thelakelander on March 03, 2019, 10:14:51 PM
Thoughts?

QuoteBarring any last-minute snags, the Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to sign free-agent quarterback Nick Foles to a multiyear contract when the new league year opens next week, according to sources.

Full story: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26130769/jags-expected-sign-foles-next-week
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Tacachale on March 03, 2019, 10:43:12 PM
Fine by me but we need to draft someone too.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on March 04, 2019, 12:16:52 AM
Good news for Jag nation. Now that I am back in Florida I would love to be here for a repeat of the 2017 season
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: pierre on March 04, 2019, 07:48:37 AM
Foles would be a definite upgrade over Bortles or Kessler and should make the team more competitive in the next year or two. But it is still just a short term fix. And they better load up on offense in the draft and free agency.

It would not shock me if this is Foles' camp putting this out looking to get another team to jump in. With Denver trading for Flacco, there are not a lot of teams with openings at QB.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 04, 2019, 07:57:31 AM
I am happy for both of them...  :)
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: civil42806 on March 04, 2019, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: pierre on March 04, 2019, 07:48:37 AM
Foles would be a definite upgrade over Bortles or Kessler and should make the team more competitive in the next year or two. But it is still just a short term fix. And they better load up on offense in the draft and free agency.

It would not shock me if this is Foles' camp putting this out looking to get another team to jump in. With Denver trading for Flacco, there are not a lot of teams with openings at QB.

I hope they do something with the offense in the draft.  Not an expert but all the talking heads keep saying how draft this years favors the defense, knowing Coughlin, its another DT in the first round.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Snufflee on March 04, 2019, 10:11:39 AM
I honestly think this is a terrible idea, Free Agent QB's rarely lead teams to sustainable success over the long haul. This reeks of win now or fired desperation.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on March 05, 2019, 10:39:17 PM
I don't think it's meant to be substantial move. Would you rather they role into the 2019 season again with Bortles? Draft a QB Let's Foles navigate this season while the rookie learns. How often do you win with a rookie QB?
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: MusicMan on March 06, 2019, 08:59:02 AM
Who will Foles throw to?  What protection can our O line provide?

I'd almost rather stick with Bortles and bring in Antonio Brown and draft one of the freak WR in this years draft....
Also very impressive Oline guy from NC State in this draft...  Lot's of good choices IMO.

If Foles gets hurt who will the back up be?
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 06, 2019, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on March 06, 2019, 08:59:02 AM
Who will Foles throw to?  What protection can our O line provide?

I'd almost rather stick with Bortles and bring in Antonio Brown and draft one of the freak WR in this years draft....
Also very impressive Oline guy from NC State in this draft...  Lot's of good choices IMO.

If Foles gets hurt who will the back up be?


lol... calm down... free agency hasn't even begun yet... we will be drafting players ... then there will be more free agents.  Foles will be QB... they will find a backup in the later rounds or pick up a cast off free agent as a backup
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Snufflee on March 06, 2019, 12:18:25 PM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on March 05, 2019, 10:39:17 PM
I don't think it's meant to be substantial move. Would you rather they role into the 2019 season again with Bortles? Draft a QB Let's Foles navigate this season while the rookie learns. How often do you win with a rookie QB?

Of course its a substantial move, its the most important position on the field and even if the Jags are "bidding against themselves" it will cost
18 - 20 million per.

Yes I would prefer a rookie and begin to establish a competitive run for the next 10 - 12 years. Even teams like the Chargers that are up and down year after year. The right coach with some smart drafting and with Rivers they were never more than a year or two removed from being relevant.

The Jaguars are irrelevant right now, with Foles they maybe interesting for a year or 2, maybe they have a magical run in them a la 2017. I just don't see this as the Franchise defining QB that this team has consistently failed to develop since 2000.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: BridgeTroll on March 06, 2019, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Snufflee on March 06, 2019, 12:18:25 PM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on March 05, 2019, 10:39:17 PM
I don't think it's meant to be substantial move. Would you rather they role into the 2019 season again with Bortles? Draft a QB Let's Foles navigate this season while the rookie learns. How often do you win with a rookie QB?

Of course its a substantial move, its the most important position on the field and even if the Jags are "bidding against themselves" it will cost
18 - 20 million per.

Yes I would prefer a rookie and begin to establish a competitive run for the next 10 - 12 years. Even teams like the Chargers that are up and down year after year. The right coach with some smart drafting and with Rivers they were never more than a year or two removed from being relevant.

The Jaguars are irrelevant right now, with Foles they maybe interesting for a year or 2, maybe they have a magical run in them a la 2017. I just don't see this as the Franchise defining QB that this team has consistently failed to develop since 2000.

They certainly have not had success drafting and developing franchise QBs...
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Snufflee on March 06, 2019, 01:04:09 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on March 06, 2019, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Snufflee on March 06, 2019, 12:18:25 PM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on March 05, 2019, 10:39:17 PM
I don't think it's meant to be substantial move. Would you rather they role into the 2019 season again with Bortles? Draft a QB Let's Foles navigate this season while the rookie learns. How often do you win with a rookie QB?

Of course its a substantial move, its the most important position on the field and even if the Jags are "bidding against themselves" it will cost
18 - 20 million per.

Yes I would prefer a rookie and begin to establish a competitive run for the next 10 - 12 years. Even teams like the Chargers that are up and down year after year. The right coach with some smart drafting and with Rivers they were never more than a year or two removed from being relevant.

The Jaguars are irrelevant right now, with Foles they maybe interesting for a year or 2, maybe they have a magical run in them a la 2017. I just don't see this as the Franchise defining QB that this team has consistently failed to develop since 2000.

They certainly have not had success drafting and developing franchise QBs...

That is unfortunately the most accurate statement that can be made prior to the start of FA and the Draft.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: thelakelander on March 11, 2019, 06:06:38 PM
Wow!!!
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26231282/source-foles-jags-88m-50m-guaranteed
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: civil42806 on March 11, 2019, 07:24:35 PM
Quote from: sanmarcomatt on March 11, 2019, 05:44:18 PM
Being reported Foles is getting 4/88 with 50 mil guaranteed. Considering there appeared to be no other legit competition for his services, Lenny Curry is nodding with approval at the Jags negotiating skills.

Nothing this franchise love more than overpaying for free agents.  Maybe there was someone else trying to sign him, but I figure we were negotiating against ourselves.   But Foles makes me more optimistic than rolling with any of the options out there, plus its a weak draft this year for qbs.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: civil42806 on March 11, 2019, 09:47:07 PM
Now a right tackle in the first round, go Jags, I know you can do it.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: pierre on March 12, 2019, 08:01:25 AM
Quote from: civil42806 on March 11, 2019, 07:24:35 PM

Nothing this franchise love more than overpaying for free agents.

I have heard similar comments but this is what teams that do when they have not drafted well. The Jaguars are not different than teams like the 49ers, Bucs, Jets, Redskins, Lions, Raiders or any other mediocre franchise.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: Steve on March 12, 2019, 02:21:01 PM
No issue with the amount of money....if the Jags got this one right. If this is a disaster it should be a Resume Generating Event for Coughlin. At least it's basically a 2 year deal with a team option for years 3 and 4 (since they can cut him after 2020 and I believe have no dead money).

That tells me they don't like any of the QBs in this year's draft but perhaps next year they draft someone.
Title: Re: Jags to sign QB Foles
Post by: marcuscnelson on March 12, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
Quote from: sanmarcomatt on March 12, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
Now Philly gets the top pick and the Pats have to settle for 2nd and 3rd best. Life can be so unfair for Pats fans.

Ah yes, our most marginalized and oppressed demographic: Pats fans.