Not sure what to make of this. Computer I'm on has trouble with Flash, so I can only read the text.
Sounds grandiose and we've heard similar ambitions before in real estate ventures, but the fact that this is a film industry venture and centered on a precious resource - the Florida beach area! - catches my interest.
Has anyone heard anything about this?
"Mooneyhan Entertainment Group is about to make the Jacksonville area one of the top entertainment centers of the world by developing various projects related to the entertainment business in different areas of Jacksonville. Mooneyhan Entertainment has chosen the beaches area to develop their first entertainment center...."
more here http://www.mooneyhanfilms.com/main.html (http://www.mooneyhanfilms.com/main.html)
Update, apparently he tried to build a monstrous, Hollywood-level studio in Tennessee, but was unsuccessful. Maybe this guy is a reverse-Kuhn (fails earlier, succeeds later in Jax).
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5293/is_199811/ai_n24338984 (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5293/is_199811/ai_n24338984)
A major film studio in Jax, focused on family-oriented films, would be off the charts!
I have not heard anything until now... Seems very ambitious. Phase one... a huge complex in Jax beach... complete with holographic moon that will be seen for miles.
Phase two... a large downtown complex...
Phase three... a large Universal type theme park somewhere around Jacksonville.
Wow. Never heard of this before...the company or the projects.
I'll help you out with what I read from the Flash display:
"We have chosen the Jacksonville area because of the many elements that it has conducive to film and television production and tourism. In the early 1900's, Jacksonville was the birthplace of the motion picture industry and had the largest amusement theme park in the world at Jacksonville Beach. It is only fitting that both industries come back to this extremely progressive city."
There are three phases:
1) major development along atlantic Beach that includes a hotel, film and recording studios, and attractions based on the fact that Jax was the "birthplace of the film industry." (Which I did not know was quite the case...semantics I guess." Predominantly a tourist destination.
2) entertainment and dining options in downtown to be called Moonwalk City. An attempt to engage the nightlife downtown.
3) Eventually a major theme park called Movieland USA to be built just outside the city. To rival Disney and Universal Studios. The plans for this one aren't very clear...probably much further down the road.
I'm excited, but am not getting my hopes up til I see much more.
Bring the entertainment back!
Quote from: Beloki on September 04, 2008, 03:46:06 PM
Bring the entertainment back!
to quote Nirvana, "Here we are now, entertain us"
Anyone googled this company, it seems a little odd. Only hits are basically their website. Can't find a otc, nasdaq or nyse listing, apparently privately owned. You would think if they are such major players there would be a bit more information out there.
Wow I hope they can pull this off. With the biz coming to town I'll probably be a big star and you can all brag that I post here.
Yeah, I don't think they are major players at all. And I think this plan is a pipe dream...for now at least.
Quote from: civil42806 on September 04, 2008, 04:42:16 PM
Anyone googled this company, it seems a little odd. Only hits are basically their website. Can't find a otc, nasdaq or nyse listing, apparently privately owned. You would think if they are such major players there would be a bit more information out there.
The downtown rendering has it positioned next to the skyway.
This is all I could find:
http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=mooneyhan+&x=2&y=4
Doesn't seem like a real large company.....
Sounds more like Fred Kahilian.
Interesting. Very ambitious. However, they'll have to revise their Jax Beach plan. There's a 35ft height limit. I wish them well, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I just took a look at Downtown's Moon Walk City. That's not going to happen unless the Bay Street Station project falls apart. They appear to be targeted for the same lot.
Quote from: thelakelander on September 04, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Interesting. Very ambitious. However, they'll have to revise their Jax Beach plan. There's a 35ft height limit. I wish them well, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Quote from: thelakelander on September 04, 2008, 10:17:16 PM
I just took a look at Downtown's Moon Walk City. That's not going to happen unless the Bay Street Station project falls apart. They appear to be targeted for the same lot.
If the money is there to do these projects those issues won't be big hurdles.
A hologram depicting a full moon over Jax Beach? Environmentalists would go nuts - I just imagine sea turtle hatchlings being drawn away from their natural environment/ocean - sort of "Pied Piper-esque"
While I'm not saying this is the case with this group, in the business it is very common to create new companies for each film or venture. Thus when you watch a TV show or Movie you'll have some big and older names on occasion but then a score of these unheard of production companies, that for all intenet and purpose do one job and close up the books.
Based on that history, it wouldn't be a stretch to think they might have a group of major production players ready to part with their money for a shot at the mouse. I'll just be happy to jab Universal, I still hate their stupid Benji Dog(s) that I put up with for a summer. In other words, because this isn't Dupont or the Dow, don't think it Can't happen in the movie industry.
OCKLAWAHA
Hello All,
I will offer some clarification on this subject. I have been personally involved with this development over the last few years and I can verify that it is real and that it is big. The website offers a preview of what the project emcompasses. Its purpose is to excite the public and to spread the word that something big is going to happen in Jax. Many people say that they can't find any information or have not heard anything about this development until now, and that is our intention. What is on the website is the only information we have decided to release, all other specifics including locations, dates and timeframes, are being kept close to the vest for business purposes. When the time is right and all pieces of the puzzle are in place and solidified we hope to announce all of our plans to the people of Jacksonville and the state of Florida. Keep checking the website for more updates, we plan on releasing an updated development presentation in the comnig weeks that more closely adheres to what our current plans are. I hope all of you are as excited as I am for this project to become a reality for Jacksonville. Thanks and GO JAGUARS!!!!
http://www.mooneyhan.com (http://www.mooneyhan.com)
Looks like this guy comes around every 10 years or so:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5293/is_199811/ai_n24338984
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117488229.html?categoryid=18&cs=1
Best of luck to him. :-\
Sounds to me like this group finds cities who want to compete with their more popular and successful neighbors get wined and dined, courted, looking for monetary concessions from a city like Jacksonville desperate to attract this sort of venue...
I am highly suspicious of this group.
Definitly suspicious, they don't appear to know about the height restrictions at the beach. No way are the environmentalist going to allow a holographic moon at the beach because of the sea turtles. Besides is it to much trouble to go to the beach, then look up and see the real moon? I beleive the bay street view is showing development where there is already plans construction.
But hey nice flash presentation, you got that going for you. Enjoy dinner at Mortons.
This sounds very intriguing but I take it with a huge grain of salt. The Variety article from 1999 should give us reasons to be suspicious. And when you click on their movies, the first one has Dabney Coleman as the star? WTF?
Dabney Coleman is a true American Badass - second only to Chuck Norris......
(http://www.nndb.com/people/993/000022927/dabney-coleman.jpg)
Buffalo Bill!!!
Can we get an update on this?
WOW!!!!!!!!!
More details are sure to follow, but this project now involves THREE downtown locations that are SERIOUSLY perfect for what Jacksonville needs. Hotels, Entertainment Complex, Film College, Soundstage - ALL DOWNTOWN!
This new plan of theirs ABSOLUTELY ROCKS and Jax would be poised to be a WORLD CLASS LEADER in the film industry! Downtown would officially be a DESTINATION.
Be thankful that some recent downtown developments failed, because the plans these guys have are 10 TIMES BETTER!!!
Check this out for a good laugh
http://waynemooneyhan.com/
Quote from: copperfiend on July 30, 2010, 03:39:04 PM
Check this out for a good laugh
http://waynemooneyhan.com/
This is some sort of elaborate and long-running college prank. It just has to be.
Hmm, well the plans are cool even though they are all purely conceptual. I hope something happens, but I still think this is a pipe dream. It just feels fishy to me. Also, one would think there would at least be more information circulating around the rumor mill about projects as large in scope as these.
Best of luck to Mooneyhan's company, but where are they going to get the financing for any of this? If I was a lender or private equity I would be scared to offer any financing packages for this, even at extremely high rates. Can Jax compete with New York and LA? How is Jax going to come to be known as one of the great entertainment/movie studio cities when there are an elite and small host of cities that already dominate the industry quite well. Sounds like Mooneyhan should take his ideas a little more public rather than being so secretive. I think with the right formula and slightly altered proposals the company can slowly build to something of similar scope, but they have virtually no experience aside from producing "Where the Red Fern Grows" and I don't know anything about their backings or support network, but it does not seem like there is a lot there.
Yea that second site is pretty lame, the first link in this thread is at least a little more professional but still lacking.
would it make more sense, and be way cooler,
to do all of this.....on the moon?
I hope city council doesn't give him any money. hehe.
This is a very bold idea obviously. Being skeptical is fine. Obviously their first step is to produce a first rate film. What is impressive about this is someone has a VISION for downtown, something you guys aré always crying about.
Prank? Who would go through the trouble for jacksonville? I don think so.
This would bring jobs. Tourism. Life. Most important, a reason for people to live and visit a vibrant downtown. State tax breaks for film would certainly help. The city council leed not give money, but their input and collaboration would help.
So lets see what they can do. Very exciting.
Two other quick thoughts.
The largest sound stage in the world in in Michigan - just finished. Something like 450,000 sq feet.
So these folks are planning something BIGGER than that if they want the BIGGEST title as proclaimed.
But the start seems to be something very simple - usage of exisiting space - the Prime Osborn Center as a soundstage. So they would have to work around existing calendar of events in producing their film. What logical reason would the city NOT want to allow them to do this at a cheap rate? They'd have 200,000 plus sq feet at their disposal.
It also makes sense - instead of trying to build a fantastic movie theater on new ground like Ben Carter properties tried with Bay Street Station, convert the POC into a temporary theater for showings and invite people to come. In this down economy, being creative and using existing space at a cheap rate is very smart.
I cannot rave enough about this idea. I love it and it's exactly what downtown needs. I don't know how they would handle seating - I guess simple chairs would have to do from the start. You could decorate the heck out of the place and roll out the red carpet on Saturday nights. Invite celebrities every other weekend to come into town for screenings and watch Jacksonvillians spend Saturday morning at the RAM and migrate over to the Prime for MOVIES!
PRIME OSBORN THEATER!!! DO IT BABY!!
( I feel like a movie film version of Ock now!)
Any update on this??
;)
OMG you did not just bump this thread.
What reminded me of this was an article I was reading about a huckster in Tennessee promising a theme park, waterpark, resort hotels and an NBA arena.
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14183613/festival-tennessee-developers-claims-flunk-truth-test
Quote from: JeffreyS on May 24, 2011, 10:28:47 AM
OMG you did not just bump this thread.
Yessir it has been offically bumped!!! LMAO Mooneyhan was a fluck. The office number he had listed is not even in service anymore. He was all lip service.
Hahaha the thread that just won't die.
Can we bump the Fuddruckers thread too? :)
Well.. Lip service or no, If it had become reality , it could have been really cool and really good for Jacksonville
Sadly Mooneyhan was looking for a theme park with his hand out and a sign, "Will work for Dumbo." Though I was hoping he would pull this off as he was involved in a couple of movie productions it turned out to be NOTHING.
BTW, boys, I'm rebuilding the TITANIC in my back yard out of old VHS tapes as a tourist attraction, wanna help?
OCKLAWAHA
Quote from: Ocklawaha on May 24, 2011, 12:47:53 PM
BTW, boys, I'm rebuilding the TITANIC in my back yard out of old VHS tapes as a tourist attraction, wanna help?[/b]
OCKLAWAHA
I dunno, that idea gives me a sinking feeling!
Quote from: Timkin on May 24, 2011, 12:14:42 PM
Well.. Lip service or no, If it had become reality , it could have been really cool and really good for Jacksonville
It that theme park was ever built, it would have the same ending as the Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach did.
I don't think you are right about that, in fact I think a moderate sized park is long overdue for several reasons.
VALDOSTA:
There are 134,000 people in the Valdosta, Georgia metro area.
Region has as one Air Force Base and one Marine Supply Depot
One large State Park nearby
Has regional commercial airport
Wild Adventures is in Valdosta Georgia, isolated on a back road that ends at a paper mill, and it is doing great.
Wild Adventures draws from one Interstate Highway and three U.S. Highways.
Wild Adventures is 117 miles (two hours) away from Jacksonville.
Wild Adventures is 209 miles from Orlando. ...and 234 from Atlanta. ...and 432 from Miami. and finally 693 from Cincinnati, Ohio, consistently the center of Florida Visitation on I-75.
JACKSONVILLE:
There are 1,328,144 people in Jacksonville, Florida metro area.
Region has 3 major Naval Bases, 1 Marine Corps Base, 3 Coast Guard Bases, 1 Army/Guard training Base
Has more state and national parks within an hours drive then any other city in America.
Has a BEACH and major river and international airport.
Has 4 Interstate Highways and 5 U.S. Highways
317 miles to Atlanta, 344 miles to Miami, 710 from Washington, D.C. and the Northeast Corridor. On the route of virtually all traffic between the northeast and Florida.
Any park could be located at or near the junction of I-95 and I-295 SOUTH which would logistically catch all eastbound traffic on I-10 heading south, and all I-95 traffic, and all beltway traffic.
The local population, hungry for recreation would flood the place daily, and the Florida visitors would have a first shot at fantasyland USA.
Oh no! Theme Park in Jacksonville is all about LOGISTICS, and as long as the owner didn't try to out spent Disney, he or she would succeed beyond their wildest dreams. This is why I keep coming back to the idea of a creek side, old style, family, TROLLEY PARK on Hogan's Creek.
OCKLAWAHA
Yeah Jacksonville is screaming for an attraction. We missed on Busch Gardens and Disney also if Im not mistaken. Not to metion running the "dirty movie people" away to California. Man this city has a history of being dumb as a brick. lol
I love the idea of a small to medium sized park here also. I guess what I wonder is do kids even have an interest in riding merry-go-round's and things like that nowadays? Merry go rounds, ferris wheels, ski ball...etc are great for nostalgia purposes but I would think a park would have to have something that offers a wide appeal for people.
Quote from: comncense on May 24, 2011, 02:34:13 PM
I love the idea of a small to medium sized park here also. I guess what I wonder is do kids even have an interest in riding merry-go-round's and things like that nowadays? Merry go rounds, ferris wheels, ski ball...etc are great for nostalgia purposes but I would think a park would have to have something that offers a wide appeal for people.
I bet there's all kinds of market research data one can access on that. Different age groups like XYZ or ABC. With most of these parks it's likely about thrill rides, educational fare, or concerts. The only reason I set foot in Silver Springs in the last 5 years is because of a concert.
Six Flags, Wild Adventures, Cypress Gardens and Hard Rock Park all went into bankruptcy. Theme parks don't seem like profitable ventures.
TOPIC SPLIT,
NEW TOPIC... THEMEPARK JACKSONVILLE
OCKLAWAHA
Ladies and gentleman, Wayne Mooneyhan is back. He does not want the JTA land transfer to happen because he wants the property. O...M....G......
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400669/larry-hannan/2011-06-27/jacksonville-city-council-members-willing-give-away-some
Of all the land available in Jacksonville, why would Mooneyhan want this parcel??
I was thinking the same thing. Strange Strange Strange
i cant believe the City Council would even bother with him.
Right! I cant believe Jack Webb is entertaining him. That is definately a "pie in the sky" project that we no longer entertain the likes of. Mooneyhan has been given lip service for years. What does he want, us to reserve land for him? With his "promise" to building something? Does Mooneyhan even have any money?
I dont know why they are even giving him the time of day
Quote from: copperfiend on June 28, 2011, 09:03:05 AM
I dont know why they are even giving him the time of day
For this type of reason, I am glad Jack Webb is leaving. Entertaining these types of projects have gotten us absolutely nowhere.
If the JRTC were consolodated, as adamantly expressed here, there would be plenty of room for Mooneyhan and no need for a huge land grant to the JTA. IMO, that corner of DT would be ideal for a production studio etc. (if Mooneyhan can put his money where his mouth is).
If the council gives the JTA less land perhaps the transportation center will end up with a more compact urban design. Now I do not have any confidence in Mooneyhan but a touristy style film studio surrounded by shopping, entertainment , dining and near a transit hub would make sense in that area. I am sure Lavilla School of the Arts would like it.
.... his websites are all offline. Unless he is revamping them, I don't see any light at the end of that tunnel.
Agreed I see no future of him developing anything.
It sounds more like Webb was politely brushing him off than anything. I'm sure council members have to deal with people like that all the time.
Well then if the less land deal is not for a more compact design and for Mooneyham then they are as crazy as he is.
I wouldn't assume it's dead yet at all. An international architect firm has their project design samples on their website, so it appears to be very much alive, but obviously pending funding and launching.
Quote from: rjp2008 on July 06, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
I wouldn't assume it's dead yet at all. An international architect firm has their project design samples on their website, so it appears to be very much alive, but obviously pending funding and launching.
Well the problem is now, where is going to put it? If we decide to consolidate the transportation hub, that would free up the land he wanted. If we dont, he's complete out of luck unless he trys some of the shipyards property.
This thing is pie in the sky. Give me the convention center, incentives, public grants, all the historic fund money and non-payback loans and I'll cook up a redevelopment project too.
oh come on I can create a website dedicated to a dream I have without having any money. Kill this zombie thread!
I hope this isn't dead and wasn't a 'pie in the sky', but if it is/was, I appreciate the company showing Jacksonville like that and putting it at the center of what it was doing.
Mooneyhan is persistant. He will not go away. The film studio isnt pie in the sky alone. If you view the entire project, you will realize what everyone means.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 06, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
Mooneyhan is persistant. He will not go away. The film studio isnt pie in the sky alone. If you view the entire project, you will realize what everyone means.
Yeah, some of it does seem like it'll never get built (like the theme park or the Jax Beach thing) but a studio is realistic and if that is a success, I do see more of it getting built.
I just watched the video on YouTube... it made me smile in a "this will never get built" kind of way. There's no way a Hard Rock Cafe, House of Blues and Planet Hollywood would all get built downtown, not to mention all of the other things portrayed in the video. It's nice to dream big though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APXepBgRcws
Quote from: rjp2008 on July 06, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
I wouldn't assume it's dead yet at all. An international architect firm has their project design samples on their website, so it appears to be very much alive, but obviously pending funding and launching.
Link?
Quote from: acme54321 on July 08, 2011, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: rjp2008 on July 06, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
I wouldn't assume it's dead yet at all. An international architect firm has their project design samples on their website, so it appears to be very much alive, but obviously pending funding and launching.
Link?
I'm assuming this is it.
http://www.bastienarchitects.com/mooneyhan.html
Two words - pipe dream.
It sure would be cool if he pulled it off.... But winning the lottery would be cool too, and there is probably a better chance of that.
Mooneyhan promised the same thing ten years ago in Nashville. Never built. Reminds me of the "Monorail" episode of the Simpson. Hopefully the city learned from it's dealing with crooks like Cameron Kuhn.
lol I thought of the monorail episode too! Hollywood Holographic museum? It's some over the top stuff
LMAO!!! I can't believe anyone can consider what's shown on that cartoonish youtube video as a realistic proposal. So the Prime Osborn, JRTC, Shipyards and JEA sites are going to become a gigantic movie complex with a bunch of suburban hotels surrounding them? A 3,500 space monster of a parking garage on river? So much for connecting the Northbank riverwalk to Metropolitan Park. To top it off, they're going to put a train on FEC's main line with hourly service to connect their studio parks together? Hell, why not add a ferris wheel in the middle of the St. Johns River along with a space port in the Landing's courtyard, while we're at it.
LOL in that youtube video that guy has plans to replace half of DT with his madness. Where did this guy come from anyway? Does he live locally? Does he have billions to pull this off? LOL pretty much sums this up.
Quote from: copperfiend on July 08, 2011, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on July 08, 2011, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: rjp2008 on July 06, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
I wouldn't assume it's dead yet at all. An international architect firm has their project design samples on their website, so it appears to be very much alive, but obviously pending funding and launching.
Link?
I'm assuming this is it.
http://www.bastienarchitects.com/mooneyhan.html
Which means absolutely nothing. Tons of architecture, planning and graphics firms put unbuilt work up on their sites to show what they are capable of. That's just marketing.
Pie. In. The. Sky.
This thing is beyond hilarious. It's like some crazy person spent an afternoon doodling buildings on google maps with sketchup. I'm not exactly sure how anyone could see it any other way. The intro to that video is a tape recording of the intro playing on a tv or monitor and the rest of it has the design of a 70's instructional video. It's like if you ask an 8 year old boy what his dream car is and he starts rattling off stuff like laser beams and rocket launchers and fighting dinosaurs in outer space.
That "plan" basically turns the entire city into some kind of tourist trap. Maybe it's good that money doesn't grow on trees for people to just build whatever they want. ;)
I used to do stuff like this in Sim City all the time.
This whole thing is nonsense!
Mr. Mooneyhan, get it done. Please!!! This would be Jacksonville's big break!!!
This thread is like a bad penny...
Tarnished, old, and not much retail value ;)
Oh what nice chuckle for me when I noticed this thread had been bumped.
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
The Zombie Thread!
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
I am sure we would all love for him to do it. It is just 3.5 years since it was announced and he has fooled other cities before.
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
It's a just a pipe dream. No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
It's a just a pipe dream. No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
Bump......
...............BITCHEZ!
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
If he has financing of any sort, I don't think people would be closed to movie studios in Jacksonville. However, until something of substance materializes, his dream is no more realistic than me or you asking the city to give us public ROW to install Metro Jacksonville streetcar system.
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
It's a just a pipe dream. No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.
Quote from: thelakelander on March 14, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
If he has financing of any sort, I don't think people would be closed to movie studios in Jacksonville. However, until something of substance materializes, his dream is no more realistic than me or you asking the city to give us public ROW to install Metro Jacksonville streetcar system.
From the way it sounds, he is not asking the city for any type of investment. And he's willing to pay $40 million for the old convention center, which should be enough to build a new convention center. However, I would ask him these questions:
Where would the money for phases 2 and 3 come from?
How long before phases 2 and 3 would be built?
How long before phase 1 is complete?
How will visitors be drawn?
After you purchase the convention center, will you have financing to start phase 1? Or will it be purchased and just become another building due to lack of funds to start the project?
I can understand this being a concern if he cannot answer all of this.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 14, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
It's a just a pipe dream. No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.
So what has he failed on in the past?
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 14, 2012, 12:41:52 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 14, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
It's a just a pipe dream. No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.
So what has he failed on in the past?
He hasnt done anything in the past. He attempted to do the same thing in Nashville and it fell through. He's been giving Jacksonville lip service for about 5 years now about his project. He's been all talk.
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 14, 2012, 12:40:32 AM
And he's willing to pay $40 million for the old convention center, which should be enough to build a new convention center.
Really? ::) We should just trade with him then. He can build a suitable convention center and once it's done we trade. ;)
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Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?
It's a just a pipe dream. No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.
Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.
So what has he failed on in the past?
He hasnt done anything in the past. He attempted to do the same thing in Nashville and it fell through. He's been giving Jacksonville lip service for about 5 years now about his project. He's been all talk.
If he has the money for it, then I say give him a chance. At least the city could get a new convention center out if it. I say anything to give Jacksonville some entertainment. Nashville already has some entertainment going on. Jacksonville needs whatever it can get. I know it's hard to trust a guy that's never done anything big like this, but maybe he'll succeed. As long as he has the right people and the proper support.
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 14, 2012, 02:13:02 AM
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And he's willing to pay $40 million for the old convention center, which should be enough to build a new convention center.
Really? ::) We should just trade with him then. He can build a suitable convention center and once it's done we trade. ;)
Hey, I'm just saying if he has the money for this, then why be opposed.
I saw the story on jacksonville.com! Is this the same crazy plan from before? Has he scaled it down some? I guess what Im really asking is why is this coming back up again?
Quote from: justinthered on March 14, 2012, 04:33:34 AM
I saw the story on jacksonville.com! Is this the same crazy plan from before? Has he scaled it down some? I guess what Im really asking is why is this coming back up again?
I guess he never went away. I think Mayor Brown should at least listen to what he has to say. Wouldn't hurt, right?
It's a fun idea I'll give him that. I think if it's not going to cost the city anything and he's got the money to make it happen, then why not? My biggest question with it would be how it effects the transportation plan. Does this help or hurt that?
So....whatever happened with this? Any news?
lol
Quote from: Adam White on April 06, 2017, 10:45:04 AM
So....whatever happened with this? Any news?
Rumor has it, their deal is contingent on Fuddruckers opening at the Landing. What's the ETA of that project?
Quote from: thelakelander on April 06, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Quote from: Adam White on April 06, 2017, 10:45:04 AM
So....whatever happened with this? Any news?
Rumor has it, their deal is contingent on Fuddruckers opening at the Landing. What's the ETA of that project?
;D
A quick Google Search shows that IMDB lists Wayne Mooneyhan's DOB as 8/7/58.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0600791/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0600791/)
An additional Google Search shows that Wayne L Mooneyhan of Jacksonville died last month and his DOB was 8/7/46.
http://www.nauglefuneral.com/obituaries/Wayne-Mooneyhan/#!/Obituary (http://www.nauglefuneral.com/obituaries/Wayne-Mooneyhan/#!/Obituary)
These two may be totally unrelated but it seems like an odd coincidence.
>:(
I knew this thread was going to pop up today.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on April 06, 2017, 02:59:33 PM
I knew this thread was going to pop up today.
It's like Candyman.
Quote from: thelakelander on April 06, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Rumor has it, their deal is contingent on Fuddruckers opening at the Landing. What's the ETA of that project?
Ennis, sometimes your sense of humor makes me laugh with you and curse at you at the same time. Dammit.
And Adam, thanks for being so gracious in London. I'm already dreaming about coming back for the Notting Hill Carnival but that's likely a pipe dream.
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Quote from: thelakelander on April 06, 2017, 11:04:30 AM
Rumor has it, their deal is contingent on Fuddruckers opening at the Landing. What's the ETA of that project?
Ennis, sometimes your sense of humor makes me laugh with you and curse at you at the same time. Dammit.
And Adam, thanks for being so gracious in London. I'm already dreaming about coming back for the Notting Hill Carnival but that's likely a pipe dream.
Glad you made it back okay. Hit me up if you come back for the carnival.
Any updates on this project?
Took a walk on the beach last night, doesn't look like the holographic moon is up yet.
Quote from: KenFSU on March 12, 2018, 01:13:38 PM
Any updates on this project?
Took a walk on the beach last night, doesn't look like the holographic moon is up yet.
That's strange. The other day it was visible all the way from the unity plaza ampitheatre.
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Quote from: KenFSU on March 12, 2018, 01:13:38 PM
Any updates on this project?
Took a walk on the beach last night, doesn't look like the holographic moon is up yet.
That's strange. The other day it was visible all the way from the unity plaza ampitheatre.
Fuddruck you guys for resurrecting this thread!
speaking of dormant threads......how about that Moon River Pizza?
Mooneyhan's back!! Yay!!! Lol! ;D
Any news or updates? This thing is taking longer than East San Marco!!
Not sure, but I can say I have heard that The Walking Dead will be filming the final season on what will become the: 'Abandoned Lot' that once was the Jacksonville Landing! Moneyhan will be funding the project and Shad will be in full support!