Mooneyhan Entertainment Group to make Jax entertainment center?

Started by rjp2008, September 04, 2008, 02:37:30 PM

jcjohnpaint


JeffreyS

Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

I am sure we would all love for him to do it. It is just 3.5 years since it was announced and he has fooled other cities before.
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thelakelander

Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

It's a just a pipe dream.  No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Anti redneck

Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

It's a just a pipe dream.  No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.

Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

buckethead


thelakelander

Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

If he has financing of any sort, I don't think people would be closed to movie studios in Jacksonville.  However, until something of substance materializes, his dream is no more realistic than me or you asking the city to give us public ROW to install Metro Jacksonville streetcar system.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali


duvaldude08

Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

It's a just a pipe dream.  No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.

Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.
Jaguars 2.0

Anti redneck

Quote from: thelakelander on March 14, 2012, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

If he has financing of any sort, I don't think people would be closed to movie studios in Jacksonville.  However, until something of substance materializes, his dream is no more realistic than me or you asking the city to give us public ROW to install Metro Jacksonville streetcar system.


From the way it sounds, he is not asking the city for any type of investment. And he's willing to pay $40 million for the old convention center, which should be enough to build a new convention center. However, I would ask him these questions:

Where would the money for phases 2 and 3 come from?

How long before phases 2 and 3 would be built?

How long before phase 1 is complete?

How will visitors be drawn?

After you purchase the convention center, will you have financing to start phase 1? Or will it be purchased and just become another building due to lack of funds to start the project?

I can understand this being a concern if he cannot answer all of this.

Anti redneck

Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 14, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

It's a just a pipe dream.  No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.

Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.

So what has he failed on in the past?

duvaldude08

Quote from: Anti redneck on March 14, 2012, 12:41:52 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 14, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

It's a just a pipe dream.  No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.

Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.

So what has he failed on in the past?

He hasnt done anything in the past. He attempted to do the same thing in Nashville and it fell through. He's been giving Jacksonville lip service for about 5 years now about his project. He's been all talk.
Jaguars 2.0

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: Anti redneck on March 14, 2012, 12:40:32 AM
And he's willing to pay $40 million for the old convention center, which should be enough to build a new convention center.

Really?  ::) We should just trade with him then. He can build a suitable convention center and once it's done we trade.  ;)

Anti redneck

Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 14, 2012, 01:54:59 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 14, 2012, 12:41:52 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on March 14, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 13, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
Truthfully I don't see why this would be a bad idea. If he's not asking for fronting the money, then go for it. What's the big deal?

It's a just a pipe dream.  No one has ever come to the city with an offer to purchase the entire convention center complex for this thing.

Well there is always a first time for everything. Was Khan purchasing the Jaguars a pipe dream? Was Khan purchasing the Laura Street Trio a pipe dream? I'm just saying, the city needs to be open to his ideas. If he has the financing, then go for it. I'd love to see something like this happen.

Mooneyhan just does not have a good reputation. Nothing he has proposed has ever materialized. I think thats why everyone feels they way they do.

So what has he failed on in the past?

He hasnt done anything in the past. He attempted to do the same thing in Nashville and it fell through. He's been giving Jacksonville lip service for about 5 years now about his project. He's been all talk.

If he has the money for it, then I say give him a chance. At least the city could get a new convention center out if it. I say anything to give Jacksonville some entertainment. Nashville already has some entertainment going on. Jacksonville needs whatever it can get. I know it's hard to trust a guy that's never done anything big like this, but maybe he'll succeed. As long as he has the right people and the proper support.

Anti redneck

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 14, 2012, 02:13:02 AM
Quote from: Anti redneck on March 14, 2012, 12:40:32 AM
And he's willing to pay $40 million for the old convention center, which should be enough to build a new convention center.

Really?  ::) We should just trade with him then. He can build a suitable convention center and once it's done we trade.  ;)

Hey, I'm just saying if he has the money for this, then why be opposed.

justinthered

I saw the story on jacksonville.com! Is this the same crazy plan from before? Has he scaled it down some? I guess what Im really asking is why is this coming back up again?