Apparently there is a real possibility of a Dunkin Donuts opening on Main Street in the near future.
After negotiations initially centered around purchasing and opening a location at the block between 1st and 2nd, the latest round of meeting has instead targeted the corner of 3rd and Main directly across from the Cesery Project.
More interestingly still is that the current plans include an option to do vertical development instead of a Dunkin Donuts standalone shop. In this configuration Dunkin Donuts would merely be the tenant of the ground floor, and the remaining floors would instead by residential.
The new location, expecially under this second configuration would be a tremendous leap forward for the neighborhood as it would create automatic energy between the Dunkin Donuts and the Cesery Project.
Maybe we'd finally get more JSO presence with the donuts so close by. Hey, whatever we have to do.
Quote from: nvrenuf on June 19, 2008, 04:40:47 PM
Maybe we'd finally get more JSO presence with the donuts so close by. Hey, whatever we have to do.
Good one Nuff.
I dont think your source wanted that info out there yet.
Quote from: 02roadking on June 19, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: nvrenuf on June 19, 2008, 04:40:47 PM
Maybe we'd finally get more JSO presence with the donuts so close by. Hey, whatever we have to do.
Good one Nuff.
I would be willing to start a donut fund so they could get them for free!
Hopefully Stephen's untimely gossip will not kill this deal. Large companies such as this prefer to work confidentially and they may be scared off by loose lips, especially if an area is on the margin as it is.
hopefully they will place themselves on the east side, as the west side is no man's land as far as law enforcement is concerned.
Oh. My. God. If anything will help Tom to heal, it's a Dunkin' Donuts. He's been jonesing for one in SPR for like ever. Maybe he can cut the ribbon at the opening ceremony. :)
Quote from: hooplady on June 23, 2008, 10:38:43 PM
Oh. My. God. If anything will help Tom to heal, it's a Dunkin' Donuts. He's been jonesing for one in SPR for like ever. Maybe he can cut the ribbon at the opening ceremony. :)
Yeah, those Bostonians do love their Dunkin Donuts.
They are New Englands Starbucks. as I was driving from Bangor to Portland last week, I went though some of the most rural stretches that Maine has to offer... Dunkin was EVERYWHERE.
They were literally on every corner in Center City Philly, the last time I was up there. So when is this project going to move forward? Are they trying to coordinate their completion date with Cesery's project?
I spoke to the person who gave me (and stephen) the info. He said they don't have anything under contract, but that he feels it will probably happen and is ok with it being talked up now.
I wish they'd bring back the one on Roosevelt. They just need to orient it so drive-through traffic doesn't back up into the travel lanes.
I love Dunkin Donuts, when I was in Boston they were everywhere.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 24, 2008, 09:05:11 AM
They were literally on every corner in Center City Philly, the last time I was up there. So when is this project going to move forward? Are they trying to coordinate their completion date with Cesery's project?
I lived in Center City and it was AWESOME! I had a Dunkin Donuts right across the street from my apartment and chose Dunkin's over Starbucks (who was right across the street too!).
Quote from: downtownparks on June 24, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
I spoke to the person who game me (and stephen) the info. He said they don't have anything under contract, but that he feels it will probably happen and is ok with it being talked up now.
Btw, Stephen mentioned that an African coffeehouse is going in across the street from Cesery's project. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the Grower's Alliance Coffee Company.
QuoteBrewing up help
(http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/110391-400-0.jpg?rev=2)
A local couple is using their small online coffee company to help coffee farmers living in their homeland of Kenya, which has been rocked with strife.
Martin Kabaki and Purity Gikunju saw their parents toil in the coffee fields in an antiquated system where small farmers struggled to find international markets, and middlemen cut into their share of profits.
More than 1,000 people have been killed in Kenya since a disputed presidential election in December. Much of the violence has been along political and ethnic lines.
Kabaki formed Growers Alliance Coffee Co. in 2004. Then at a Seattle coffee conference in 2006, he met his business partner and romantic match. They both made presentations on Kenyan coffee and the growers' plight.
"They never get paid enough, and they never get paid on-time," said Kabaki, a University of North Florida graduate who moved to Jacksonville from Kenya in 1999.
Growers Alliance Coffee Co. buys a pound of coffee from farmers for a little less than $1 to nearly $2, as opposed to the brokers for large companies who pay an average of
16 cents per pound. Kabaki and Gikunju know they can buy coffee for 20 cents per pound, but a few cents' increase isn't going to make a significant enough difference for poor, small growers.
Growers Alliance coffee is sold at a similar retail price to that of larger companies, but it pays more upfront so that farmers get a larger share of the profits. Typically, large companies buy the coffee and then the price is gradually inflated through a series of six purchases between the grower and the consumer.
Instead of starting the company as a nonprofit, which would depend on donations, the couple agreed the best way was to create a business with a strong nonprofit arm. The coffee sells for about $12 per one-pound bag, with about 40 cents, or 10 percent of the profits, going back to Kenya to pay for wells, storage facilities and planting more coffee.
The couple recently sent $6,000 to pay for a village school's roof. In a country where $15,000 can build a decent health clinic, that money goes far. They hope to give twice as much this year.
Kabaki and Gikunju are optimistic about expanding their coffee lines and starting a coffeehouse in Jacksonville, which will highlight growers' lives and work.
Growers Alliance Coffee Company: https://www.growersalliance.com/
Quote from: cindi on June 19, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
hopefully they will place themselves on the east side, as the west side is no man's land as far as law enforcement is concerned.
Wow, that is seriously funny-- i'm not being sarcastic-- I live on the West side and feel the exact same way about the East.
And, if anyone from DD is reading: DO THIS PROJECT. NOW.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 24, 2008, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: downtownparks on June 24, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
I spoke to the person who game me (and stephen) the info. He said they don't have anything under contract, but that he feels it will probably happen and is ok with it being talked up now.
Btw, Stephen mentioned that an African coffeehouse is going in across the street from Cesery's project. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the Grower's Alliance Coffee Company.
QuoteBrewing up help
(http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/110391-400-0.jpg?rev=2)
A local couple is using their small online coffee company to help coffee farmers living in their homeland of Kenya, which has been rocked with strife.
Martin Kabaki and Purity Gikunju saw their parents toil in the coffee fields in an antiquated system where small farmers struggled to find international markets, and middlemen cut into their share of profits.
More than 1,000 people have been killed in Kenya since a disputed presidential election in December. Much of the violence has been along political and ethnic lines.
Kabaki formed Growers Alliance Coffee Co. in 2004. Then at a Seattle coffee conference in 2006, he met his business partner and romantic match. They both made presentations on Kenyan coffee and the growers' plight.
"They never get paid enough, and they never get paid on-time," said Kabaki, a University of North Florida graduate who moved to Jacksonville from Kenya in 1999.
Growers Alliance Coffee Co. buys a pound of coffee from farmers for a little less than $1 to nearly $2, as opposed to the brokers for large companies who pay an average of
16 cents per pound. Kabaki and Gikunju know they can buy coffee for 20 cents per pound, but a few cents' increase isn't going to make a significant enough difference for poor, small growers.
Growers Alliance coffee is sold at a similar retail price to that of larger companies, but it pays more upfront so that farmers get a larger share of the profits. Typically, large companies buy the coffee and then the price is gradually inflated through a series of six purchases between the grower and the consumer.
Instead of starting the company as a nonprofit, which would depend on donations, the couple agreed the best way was to create a business with a strong nonprofit arm. The coffee sells for about $12 per one-pound bag, with about 40 cents, or 10 percent of the profits, going back to Kenya to pay for wells, storage facilities and planting more coffee.
The couple recently sent $6,000 to pay for a village school's roof. In a country where $15,000 can build a decent health clinic, that money goes far. They hope to give twice as much this year.
Kabaki and Gikunju are optimistic about expanding their coffee lines and starting a coffeehouse in Jacksonville, which will highlight growers' lives and work.
Growers Alliance Coffee Company: https://www.growersalliance.com/
Speaking of coffee out of Africa...I just read recently in the "Economist" or "Fortune" - can't remember which how Ethiopia actually has a huge coffee export business, but it is not recognized around the world they feel solely because they have not marketed it correctly. So some huge marketing firm (out of Europe??) had volunteered to redesign their logo and did a good job. Here is the newly designed logo that is now appearing on bags of coffee exported out of Ethiopia...
(http://nazret.com/blog/media/blogs/new/ethiopian_coffee_brand.jpg)
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: downtownparks on June 24, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
I spoke to the person who game me (and stephen) the info. He said they don't have anything under contract, but that he feels it will probably happen and is ok with it being talked up now.
funny how that worked out. I guess that assuming still makes an ass out of U and Ming.
But thanks for the ecumenical blessing on the subject anyways, the world is grateful.
Glad to hear that this deal wasnt killed by premature disclosure. :)
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: downtownparks on June 24, 2008, 09:50:55 AM
I spoke to the person who game me (and stephen) the info. He said they don't have anything under contract, but that he feels it will probably happen and is ok with it being talked up now.
funny how that worked out. I guess that assuming still makes an ass out of U and Ming.
But thanks for the ecumenical blessing on the subject anyways, the world is grateful.
No blessing needed. Less than a week before you posted that I was told that it wasn't for public consumption by the very same person. He obviously changed his mind. Thus my "Im not sure your source wanted that out there yet" was not unfounded.
I double checked so that if in fact he was cool with it be talked up, I could do so as well. I prefer not to rumor monger or release info before my sources want info out there. What you chose to do is up to you.
par for the course guys. i think the lesson here is that people just have to learn to be careful who they mention sensitive items to in regards to the downtown/Springfield area.
Wow!! Another pissing contest!! I love it!! For what it's worth, I looked into a Dunkin Donuts franchise approximately 2 years ago. So I thought of it first.. I was looking at the corner of Main and 4th. next to the fire station. I thought that little building would've been great and already had a drive thru. Alas, the amount wanted for the franchise was alot more than I had expected. So, I didn't get the time to make the donuts!! (had to throw that in!) Being from Worcester, MA. (me and Tom share the same hometown) Dunkin Donuts is indeed our Starbucks. Not to mention they are the official donut and coffee shop of our beloved Red Sox.... I hope this goes through, I hate Krispy Kremes...
You don't have to be commercially invested into the neighborhood if operating a commercial business or entity isn't your desire. You can also invest by being a neighborhood advocate, homeowner and by supporting neighborhood businesses.
Downtownparks owns a house in the neighborhood, which is a significant investment, imo. Advocating for the cleanup of the neighborhood and its park also takes a great deal of will. So, although he may not be Mack Bissette or Chris Hionedes, his hat is already in the ring.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 24, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
You don't have to be commercially invested into the neighborhood if operating a commercial business or entity isn't your desire. You can also invest by being a neighborhood advocate, homeowner and by supporting neighborhood businesses.
Downtownparks owns a house in the neighborhood, which is a significant investment, imo. Advocating for the cleanup of the neighborhood and its park also takes a great deal of will. So, although he may not be Mack Bissette or Chris Hionedes, his hat is already in the ring.
not only that, it is my understanding (from viewing other threads) that DTP invests a lot of his own time in bringing in quality shows at 9th & Main. as far as I can see, DTP tries to keep a low profile, while actively seeking ways to improve Springfield. Springfield has a lot of fine people and could use more like DTP.
i think there are one too many people on here that post about how MUCH they have done in Springfield, when in reality, maybe all they have left are a trail of unpaid bills and messes that have to be cleaned up. it takes people who use their OWN money (not that borrowed/swindled from others) who invest in the area and actually own homes in the area. THOSE are the people who truly stick around to make a difference. THOSE are the people who have a vested interest in seeing the area turn around. not the vegabonds who are in and out 3-4 times over a two year period who have no real roots set down in the area. those people may be here now, but in all likelihood, will be somewhere else in another 3 months.
Stephen, Do you own a home in Springfield? Do you own anything in Springfield? Other than your former business adventures how exactly are you still invested in the neighborhood? There are alot of us who DO own homes in the neighborhood and VERY MUCH appreciate the work that DTP has done and continues to do everyday. Please don't ever doubt the appreciation that Springfield has for DTP. He has done as much for this place as you have, if not more.. I don't see an annual anything put together by Stephen Dare. I do see the Historic Baseball team and games every year, that was put together in great part by DTP. Pretty much anything that goes on here, DTP is either involved in or consulted on. He cares and does more for this neighborhood than most and definitely you give him credit for. There is alot to be said for neighborhood advocacy and when we need him, DTP is always there to help out. So please don't doubt whether DTP has thrown in his hat. He has!!!
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:25:36 PM
On the other hand, we also have one too many psychopaths on this forum talking shit about a community they know nothing about.
With real estate 'investments' made from pure sub prime gold and hawking lies and slander, Driven, your posts are meaningless in this context.
Has it occurred to you that these past few months of daily personal attacks and stirring the pot to keep posters at odds with each other is not only uninteresting but a little psychopathic?
Its been months since this forum has been able to advocate for change because of the divisive and honestly disturbed element of infighting that you have introduced to it.
Im pretty sick of your malicious shit actually, and if you cant contribut positively, why not just find a pit of snakes thats more to your character.
It has been two solid months of you hijacking every post that I write in, weighing in with lies distortions and strait up stupid bullshit.
You don't know dogshit about any of this, except that you like to weigh in and look like a cool agent provocateur.
Three days after you lied on this forum about your fantasy discussion with Officers who told you that the crime I personally witnessed on 8th street wasnt a problem, a man got shot at Shanty town.
Dude if you cant be positive at least try not to slander.
stephendare,
i am really not sure WHO you are or WHY you are attacking me right now, but I would appreciate it if you would stop it. I, like thelakelander and SoxFan, was only advocating that of the little I know of DTP, he seems like a good person and a real Springfield advocate. again, WHO ARE YOU and you think I am the psychopath? does this board have moderators??? can someone step in here?
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: soxfan on June 24, 2008, 01:20:39 PM
Stephen, Do you own a home in Springfield? Do you own anything in Springfield? Other than your former business adventures how exactly are you still invested in the neighborhood? There are alot of us who DO own homes in the neighborhood and VERY MUCH appreciate the work that DTP has done and continues to do everyday. Please don't ever doubt the appreciation that Springfield has for DTP. He has done as much for this place as you have, if not more.. I don't see an annual anything put together by Stephen Dare. I do see the Historic Baseball team and games every year, that was put together in great part by DTP. Pretty much anything that goes on here, DTP is either involved in or consulted on. He cares and does more for this neighborhood than most and definitely you give him credit for. There is alot to be said for neighborhood advocacy and when we need him, DTP is always there to help out. So please don't doubt whether DTP has thrown in his hat. He has!!!
Sure I do.
Umm...OK...since you just went psycho on me, I did some searching on the property appraisers site (http://apps.coj.net/pao_propertySearch/Basic/Search.aspx) and it appears that you do not own any property in Springfield (or the entire Duval County for that matter). You have lied to the whole world.
who said DTP was not allowed to open his own place? did anyone see this? did i miss this? who said this?
if we all remember correctly, i think thelakelander started off by simply saying that DTP owns his own house (a real investment) in Springfield. i then stated that I think I remember hearing that he helps bring talent to the 9th & Main place. and then SoxFan said DTP puts on the annual heritage day thing in Springfield. he probably has a family too. sounds like he is a busy, productive man!!
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:36:06 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on June 24, 2008, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: soxfan on June 24, 2008, 01:20:39 PM
Stephen, Do you own a home in Springfield? Do you own anything in Springfield? Other than your former business adventures how exactly are you still invested in the neighborhood? There are alot of us who DO own homes in the neighborhood and VERY MUCH appreciate the work that DTP has done and continues to do everyday. Please don't ever doubt the appreciation that Springfield has for DTP. He has done as much for this place as you have, if not more.. I don't see an annual anything put together by Stephen Dare. I do see the Historic Baseball team and games every year, that was put together in great part by DTP. Pretty much anything that goes on here, DTP is either involved in or consulted on. He cares and does more for this neighborhood than most and definitely you give him credit for. There is alot to be said for neighborhood advocacy and when we need him, DTP is always there to help out. So please don't doubt whether DTP has thrown in his hat. He has!!!
Sure I do.
Umm...OK...since you just went psycho on me, I did some searching on the property appraisers site (http://apps.coj.net/pao_propertySearch/Basic/Search.aspx) and it appears that you do not own any property in Springfield (or the entire Duval County for that matter). You have lied to the whole world.
Look you little slanderous asshole. A. Why are you searching for my personal or corporate posessions? What the hell do you own?
Post that first.
Mr. Psycho,
because you went psycho on me and I don't even know you!!!! you are cursing me and using foul language. i never said one word about you. ARE THERE MODERATORS WHO ARE READING THIS??? HELP!!!
Actually, one could start a thread in the break room on that. Let's talk about Donuts here okay?
And Driven1, you honestly don't know what you're talking about just above. Okay?
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
QuoteMr. Psycho,
because you went psycho on me and I don't even know you!!!!
Right Driven. So your identity is a big mystery, lol.
Why go further with the lying?
Not only do we know each other, We have been doing business with each other for two solid years, and photographed together.
Pretending otherwise is psychopathic.
wtf??? moderators??? LOL!!! I think i've entered Crazy Land!!
anyway...cool - Dunkin Donuts is coming.
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Mr. Psycho,
because you went psycho on me and I don't even know you!!!! you are cursing me and using foul language. i never said one word about you.
Sure you did:
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i think there are one too many people on here that post about how MUCH they have done in Springfield, when in reality, maybe all they have left are a trail of unpaid bills and messes that have to be cleaned up. it takes people who use their OWN money (not that borrowed/swindled from others) who invest in the area and actually own homes in the area ... not the vegabonds who are in and out 3-4 times over a two year period who have no real roots set down in the area. those people may be here now, but in all likelihood, will be somewhere else in another 3 months.
You all but called Stephendare out. Insinuation is everything. :-)
Just sayin...
Quote from: Doctor_K on June 24, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
Insinuation is everything. :-)
Just sayin...
Doctor_K - i was actually referring to another Springfield-vegabond poster who used to post on here (not so much as of late - fortunately). That IS interesting that you thought my original post referred to "stephendare" though. Why would you think that post was "calling him out" specifically??
Anyway - any more news on the new DD???
And besides, the fact that *some* kind of commercial entity is coming to the otherwise-neglected downtown should be enough to trump any infighting between friends, right? Let's accentuate the positive.
Is 3rd and Main still considered the downtown "core," or does the "core" technically stop at State/Union? I've often wondered about the context of that.
Am I just splitting hairs a little too fine at this point?
Quote from: Driven1 on June 24, 2008, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
QuoteMr. Psycho,
because you went psycho on me and I don't even know you!!!!
Right Driven. So your identity is a big mystery, lol.
Why go further with the lying?
Not only do we know each other, We have been doing business with each other for two solid years, and photographed together.
Pretending otherwise is psychopathic.
wtf??? moderators??? LOL!!! I think i've entered Crazy Land!!
anyway...cool - Dunkin Donuts is coming.
ROFLMAO
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Doctor_K - i was actually referring to another Springfield-vegabond poster who used to post on here (not so much as of late - fortunately). That IS interesting that you thought my original post referred to "stephendare" though. Why would you think that?
(shrugs embarassedly) 'cause y'all were the ones in the middle of dukin' it out. My bad.
Quote from: Doctor_K on June 24, 2008, 01:49:19 PM
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Doctor_K - i was actually referring to another Springfield-vegabond poster who used to post on here (not so much as of late - fortunately). That IS interesting that you thought my original post referred to "stephendare" though. Why would you think that?
(shrugs embarassedly) 'cause y'all were the ones in the middle of dukin' it out. My bad.
no problem Doctor_K - no harm, no foul.
Wow.
To all who have spoken up for me, I appreciate the positive words. I assure everyone "I" am simply a small parts of a few things that occur. The Baseball was a collective effort by many people. The person who most deserves thanks is Dr Herrera as he was the biggest advocate of doing it right.
Heritage Days was a spin off of the old SPAR spring home and garden tour, and I believe was the brain child of Rita Reagan and Louise DeSpain. (please note, I could be wrong) I have simply played a roll in all of the event planning. Christy Sappenfield, Louise, and others have done a lot of work, so it would be a tragedy to not talk about the work they have done and continue to do.
As far as the music booking, we originally stepped up because a good friend was trying to make things work. I told him at the time that we would give it a whirl and if at anytime he wanted to go in a different direction, no harm no foul. We are not invested, we do not get a pay check, we do it because its fun and personally I see it as beneficial for the community. Frankly, I do it because I am able to hang out with some good friends, and listen to good music.
There are a great many who do considerably more in the community than I, starting with Jack Meeks and Mack Bissett, and working on down. The Womans Club, SPAR, the Mommies Group, the Wine Society, SACARC, The Heritage Project and businesses like Shantytown, The Pearl, AA Auto, The Proton Beam Unit.
There are so many who do so much, to give any one person too much credit is to take it away from 15 others who deserve the positive words and support.
Its not what I want to do. Perhaps if I ever have a windfall I will give it a shot. In the mean time I have a career (cable puller) and a family who deserve more of my time than the full time entertainment and nightlife business would allow.
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:52:47 PM
At present, alone in the restaurant universe, Boomtown also has no debts.
Apparently this "Boomtown" is a restaurant then? Where can one go to visit it and eat? Just curious. Other than that, I'm ignoring the psychoness.
DTP - great post. I think many had no idea there were so many people involved in making "the wheels go round" in Springfield. again, great post!
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on June 24, 2008, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:52:47 PM
At present, alone in the restaurant universe, Boomtown also has no debts.
Apparently this "Boomtown" is a restaurant then? Where can one go to visit it and eat? Just curious. Other than that, I'm ignoring the psychoness.
DTP - great post. I think many had no idea there were so many people involved in making "the wheels go round" in Springfield. again, great post!
psycho. I wouldnt advise trying to visit Boomtown when it re-opens.
yeah...i was going to say, it looks like this "Boomtown" is shut down. I found this thread on this site...
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,128.0.html
great name for a restaurant though! a better name though is...
DUNKIN DONUTS!! :)
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: Driven1 on June 24, 2008, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 24, 2008, 01:52:47 PM
At present, alone in the restaurant universe, Boomtown also has no debts.
Apparently this "Boomtown" is a restaurant then? Where can one go to visit it and eat? Just curious. Other than that, I'm ignoring the psychoness.
DTP - great post. I think many had no idea there were so many people involved in making "the wheels go round" in Springfield. again, great post!
psycho. I wouldnt advise trying to visit Boomtown when it re-opens.
When will it reopen? BTW, I do not recommend the redneck chicken. :D
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When will it reopen?
And where? Back in Springfield?