A thorough discussion of Downtown parking, including possible meter & garage rate hikes. Apparently Downtown Jax has very cheap parking.
Fyi: http://floridapolitics.com/archives/185190-jacksonville-transition-budget-review-economic-development
Cheaper than Anchorage...
How vibrant is DT Anchorage in comparison?
$80/mo for downtown office parking. That's 1/4 the market rate of covered residential parking in my neighborhood 2+ miles from downtown!
It's also less than I pay for transit each month, certainly a lot less than I pay for transit + rideshare + cabs each month. I do believe Jax DT parking rates are the lowest in the country. There really is no argument for parking costs in Jax when premium suburban office rents on the SS can be a full $1-2 more per square foot than premium view space downtown.
I think we can all lay claim that executives just don't want to drive as far from their PVB homes and there are no inherent advantages to being in DT Jax (though these advantages can be created wisely and strategically).
Quote from: thelakelander on June 18, 2015, 07:26:21 PM
How vibrant is DT Anchorage in comparison?
From the surface it appears more vibrant...I mean there is a huge shopping mall, Nordstroms and lots of restaurants...not to mention all the tourists in summer. Also like Jax lots of parking lots and garages.
The reason I ask, is because while parking may be some of the cheapest, the downtown experience is one of the lowest. IMO, we'd be better off jump starting life into DT and focusing on creating a grand end user experience, instead of figuring out how to milk the consumer for extra change.
^^^True.
Companies providing parking for employees, residents parking their cars in covered and secure garages, hotel visitors valeting their cars or parking covered and secured garages, and tourists/visitors coming in for the day or night to experience downtown should all be different camps.
What exactly warrants a price increase? Is it the lively downtown or the superbly maintained lots?
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/520609538_krygK-M.jpg)
By the way, what happened to this...?
QuoteIn an effort to clean up the appearance of downtown, the JEDC has developed a Surface Parking Improvement Plan to address the blight stimulated by downtown Jacksonville's parking industry.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-dec-downtowns-blighted-surface-parking-lots-under-fire
Quote from: Lunican on June 18, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
By the way, what happened to this...?
QuoteIn an effort to clean up the appearance of downtown, the JEDC has developed a Surface Parking Improvement Plan to address the blight stimulated by downtown Jacksonville's parking industry.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-dec-downtowns-blighted-surface-parking-lots-under-fire
I believe the plan's budget was exhausted on the study done to determine the feasibility of the plan. (credit: Joseph Heller)
At 10:32, Jack Shad: Right now, private operators are disincentivized from building garages without "extensive city subsidy." Huh? Is lack of parking garages a big issue downtown? It seems like they are everywhere. Oh, and incentivize isn't a word. The correct word is incent. (Just a pet peeve.)
Quote from: Lunican on June 18, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
By the way, what happened to this...?
QuoteIn an effort to clean up the appearance of downtown, the JEDC has developed a Surface Parking Improvement Plan to address the blight stimulated by downtown Jacksonville's parking industry.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-dec-downtowns-blighted-surface-parking-lots-under-fire
A few of those old lots survived the JEDC. Ron Barton left in 2011 and Alvin Brown replaced the JEDC with OED in 2012.
Parking? How about one dedicated ADA parking spot with the recently completed $17,000,000 Southbank Riverwalk?
Quote from: Debbie Thompson on June 18, 2015, 09:56:36 PM
Oh, and incentivize isn't a word. The correct word is incent. (Just a pet peeve.)
Both "incentivize" and "incent" are well established words, appearing in many dictionaries, including Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam-Webster. Both are relatively recent innovations, as words go; both have really only come into common use since the later part of the 20th century.
http://grammarist.com/usage/incentivize-incent/
^^^Thanks!! And it bugs me that there are so many proper grammar and old English toting posters on MetroJacksonville. I interact daily with Harvard grads who are just brilliant, who prefer to use shortcuts or invented words or acronyms when possible, and I fall into the same camp.
At the end of the day, a large component of this website is devoted to urban planning and discussion, and many people who hold careers in related fields are absolutely not concerned with the proper use of words. If it's well understood, or even better understood, to use a "commonly used" word or phrase rather than one that appears in the King James Bible, rest assured plenty of intelligent people will skip the grammar lesson to get their point across, especially in the real estate/urban planning worlds. It's like highway speeds. Sure the posted speed is 65 and it would be proper to go that fast, but everyone else is going 85...it can actually be quite dangerous to not go with traffic, and it can be quite dangerous to use big/proper words. :)
It's sometimes almost intimidating reading people's posts that contain words that I've literally never read either in a novel or heard in everyday communication. So many big word users on MJ. If we could slang all of the threads up, I'd be totally down for that!
If we can be on that page, I'll stop Googling words I rarely use to see if they are ok to post online in the framework I'm trying to use them! :P
Hey, I just said it was a pet peeve. I wasn't trying to start a flame war. Use made up words. Who cares? :) That wasn't even my point.
OMG, if someone says there is a parking shortage downtown, the sure as heck have no idea where downtown is on a map. But hey Sleiman is getting his parking deck at the Landing.
Quote from: Lunican on June 18, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
By the way, what happened to this...?
QuoteIn an effort to clean up the appearance of downtown, the JEDC has developed a Surface Parking Improvement Plan to address the blight stimulated by downtown Jacksonville's parking industry.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-dec-downtowns-blighted-surface-parking-lots-under-fire
many of the lots have been cleaned up...for example, there is the one by the courthouse w/ the food truck in it. ...note that most over there now have fencing and/or border landscaping.
I've only noticed about two that have been cleaned up. The majority still look the same. A few shots from two weeks ago:
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Slabs-of-Downtown-Jacksonville/i-Pgw5xmG/0/L/DSCF6270-L.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Slabs-of-Downtown-Jacksonville/i-g8qVcH9/0/L/DSCF6290-L.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Slabs-of-Downtown-Jacksonville/i-rwkW2mg/0/L/DSCF6292-L.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Slabs-of-Downtown-Jacksonville/i-MZ4FCGJ/0/L/DSCF6285-L.jpg)
This is one that was "improved." The owner tore out the concrete slabs and put a for sale sign on the property.
^ Beautiful!!
^^ ah yes, Lake, but these slabs have stories, as was so eloquently told on this forum :)
I can feel the heat radiating off of those pictures. I'm breaking a sweat.
What was the time frame that the decimation of Lavilla took place?
And which Mayor(s) were in office?
Quote from: marksjax on June 19, 2015, 05:07:51 PM
What was the time frame that the decimation of Lavilla took place?
And which Mayor(s) were in office?
Early to mid '90's. Ed Austin was Mayor.
Quote from: IrvAdams on June 19, 2015, 04:14:58 PM
^^ ah yes, Lake, but these slabs have stories, as was so eloquently told on this forum :)
Yes, they do. A few stories behind some of the slabs in the images above will be shared next week!
Wasn't John Delaney Mayor Austin's Chief of Staff?
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 19, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
OMG, if someone says there is a parking shortage downtown, the sure as heck have no idea where downtown is on a map. But hey Sleiman is getting his parking deck at the Landing.
Add 200 taxpayer subsidized covered parking spots for a 5 year deal.
Quote from: tufsu1 on June 19, 2015, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: Lunican on June 18, 2015, 09:35:07 PM
By the way, what happened to this...?
QuoteIn an effort to clean up the appearance of downtown, the JEDC has developed a Surface Parking Improvement Plan to address the blight stimulated by downtown Jacksonville's parking industry.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-dec-downtowns-blighted-surface-parking-lots-under-fire
many of the lots have been cleaned up...for example, there is the one by the courthouse w/ the food truck in it. ...note that most over there now have fencing and/or border landscaping.
This was a DIA project for all the surface parking lots with time tables and penalties attached for compliance. HEY! We need a dedicated ADA parking spot for 2014-190 and the $17,000,000 Southbank Riverwalk. Heard back from a school board person. Councilman Redman District 4 this is still your baby till July 1. Scott Wilson feel free to jump in here. Why not? A bike rack and a handicapped parking spot with one other parking spot so that a certain school board member or other kite surfer can have a hand launch next to Healthy Town.