Balitmore Mom Slaps Fire Out of Rioting Son
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Just a reminder that no matter how clearly lines seem to be drawn, people are still human beings (and occasionally have to answer to their furious moms) See the amazing (and kind of hilarious) video after the jump.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son (http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son)
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I salute her!!!!
If I did that, I would get a visit from child services this day in age.
Although he could probably knock her out if he was really crazy, we'd all get a visit from child services. Since there was an actual riot going on, I suspect they'll let her case go.
I've always believed that if you have to use physical force on your kid to get them to do something/not do something once, the more likely it becomes that force will be only thing that will compel them to act in the way you desire next time.
When I first saw that clip I was shouting, "Go Mom, Go!"
There is an old joke about a farmer selling a mule to another farmer: "This mule will do anything you tell him to. Always obedient." The second farmer having had different experiences with mules said, "You are going to have to prove that to me." The first farmer took a two by four and slammed the mule between the ears. The mule went down on its knees and shook its head. "Why did you do that" the second farmer shouted.
"First you have to get his attention" the first farmer replied.
So we know now at least one smart person in Baltimore.
Quote from: edjax on April 28, 2015, 07:01:32 PM
So we know now at least one smart person in Baltimore.
we also know there is at least one less smart person in Jacksonville
The B'more mayor said "We also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well" SMH...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rawlings-blake-clarifies-space-to-destroy/article/2563689
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 28, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: edjax on April 28, 2015, 07:01:32 PM
So we know now at least one smart person in Baltimore.
we also know there is at least one less smart person in Jacksonville
Oh burn girlfriend.
Quote from: I-10east on April 28, 2015, 09:21:01 PM
The B'more mayor said "We also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well" SMH...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rawlings-blake-clarifies-space-to-destroy/article/2563689
That was taken out of context.
Quote from: edjax on April 28, 2015, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 28, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: edjax on April 28, 2015, 07:01:32 PM
So we know now at least one smart person in Baltimore.
we also know there is at least one less smart person in Jacksonville
Oh burn girlfriend.
He's from the Baltimore area. The events hit close to home.
Quote from: thelakelander on April 28, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
Quote from: I-10east on April 28, 2015, 09:21:01 PM
The B'more mayor said "We also gave those who wish to destroy space to do that as well" SMH...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rawlings-blake-clarifies-space-to-destroy/article/2563689
That was taken out of context.
debatable, she just didn't speak well at that part.
Taken out of context is something of an excuse her staff is using. She obviously mangled her sentence but even when taken most charitably, she still clearly was indicating that she had instructed the police over the weekend and into this week to give space to people who clearly had destruction on their minds.
Wrong, Madam Mayor. You give great deference to protesters. You don't give an inch to people bent on destruction.
The City of Baltimore incentivized these idiots, many from elsewhere -- including anarchists, to rampage. That cannot be defended.
I saw the mother just now on CBS This Morning. Kudos to her; she was very representative, in my mind, of the average black woman out there trying to handle her business and deal with the enormous peer pressure placed on young black males to act inappropriately. We in the black community have been failed MISERABLY by political leaders insisting we march in support of young men who have given in to the criminal element without any context or understanding of how that is warping and making far more difficult the job these mothers raising sons have to do.
Police misconduct has to be monitored, and bad cops must be held accountable. So, too, criminals. Taking a life can't be trivialized or addressed merely by paying some wrongful death money. But predators creating mayhem and stealing need to be identified unsparingly by their actions.
"Good intentions" have been killing the black community for decades. Enough already with the excuses. Enough!
I was LMAO when I saw that video. That is what ALL of the parents need to be doing there. See your kid on TV acting the fool? Handle it immediately. I give her serious props.
It makes for great video, and was also a very commendable thing to do, but for Gods sake people this lady is not a hero. She simply parented her kid like you would EXPECT someone to do. Praising this lady as a hero is doing nothing but setting the bar lower. "Congratulations on being a caring parent" (o yea, that's what your supposed to do)
Quote from: RattlerGator on April 29, 2015, 08:14:04 AM
...many from elsewhere -- including anarchists...
What evidence is behind this statement?
QuoteAnarchists behind last year's violence in Ferguson are now active in Baltimore, claim social media experts
Social media experts say they have found a shocking connection between online traffic in downtown Baltimore on Monday and activity recorded during last year's violent protests in Ferguson, Missouri.
A leading data mining firm, which has asked to remain anonymous because of its government work, claims that between 20 and 50 social media accounts active in Baltimore on Monday were also used some 825 miles away in Ferguson during the peak of last summer's violence following the death of Michael Brown.
The firm said the link suggests the presence of 'professional protesters' or anarchists who are in Baltimore and are looking to take advantage of Freddie Gray's death to incite more violence.
Full article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059840/Anarchists-year-s-violence-Ferguson-active-Baltimore-claim-social-media-experts.html
You're reading that wrong, Stephen. Those accounts weren't simply discussing events in Ferguson; they were commenting FROM THAT DIRECT AREA and now they just happen to be in Baltimore. Okay? That's not a coincidence, and it needs to be discussed much more prominently.
Quote from: stephendare on April 29, 2015, 10:47:27 AM
lol. so basically bs fantasizing on the part of the British press.
Looks like they got it from FOX: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/04/28/social-media-analysis-suggests-links-between-baltimore-and-ferguson-violence/
Quote...according to a leading data mining firm that shared its findings exclusively with Fox News.
The firm, which asked to remain anonymous because of its government work...
Conveniently, they can't name the source.
Quote from: finehoe on April 29, 2015, 10:58:48 AMConveniently, they can't name the source.
Do you honestly doubt this is the fact of the matter? That was not a Baltimore thing, that (the rampage, not the protests) was a manufactured event taking advantage of a legitimate outrage. Most people in Baltimore, including the confused mayor, have already figured this out. No need to hide behind your prejudice against Fox News.
The London Daily Mail is certainly conservative but it isn't a Fox News mouthpiece.
Is "The Guardian" sufficiently liberal for you -- they clearly reported on the local unease with these folks showing up and acting out in Ferguson, ready to helicopter out after finishing their carnage:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/ferguson-outsiders-protesters-riots-peaceful-unrest
A more appropriate question might be why the lack of curiosity about this from other media outlets? Surely it *is* newsworthy.
You think that widely circulated photo / video of the guy slashing the fire hose while the firemen are trying to put out a fire was just some local guy taking action? Wearing, reportedly, what many people are claiming is an East German era gas mask ? ? ? I don't think so.
Quote from: RattlerGator on April 29, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
Is "The Guardian" sufficiently liberal for you -- they clearly reported on the local unease with these folks showing up and acting out in Ferguson, ready to helicopter out after finishing their carnage:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/ferguson-outsiders-protesters-riots-peaceful-unrest
"But the perception that they are among the visitors has shifted some scrutiny from police to the eclectic clusters of civil rights activists, anarchists, nihilists, socialists, hipsters, artists, Muslims, Christians and Buddhists."
The Guardian throws in everyone but the kitchen sink. And they don't offer any evidence, either. Note the word "perception".
Quote from: stephendare on April 29, 2015, 12:37:02 PM
definitely more troubling that 300 police killings since january.
In a big ass country? Laughably inconsequential when Chicago alone, the President's home town, trumps that most every year.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2014-chicago-murders
Just one town!
Don't play that game, Stephen. Police killings are infinitesimally small when compared to killings, period, in this country.
Quote from: finehoe on April 29, 2015, 01:09:39 PM
The Guardian throws in everyone but the kitchen sink. And they don't offer any evidence, either. Note the word "perception".
I take it that you want the anarchists -- the ANARCHISTS -- to stand front and center screaming
I am anarchist, hear me roar ! ? ! Then and only then might you consider their agitation ? ? ?
And Stephen, 100 people a month huh?
"Blacks accounted for 49% of all homicide victims in 2005, according to the FBI's UCR. Black males accounted for about 52% (or 6,800) of the nearly 13,000 male homicide victims in 2005. Black females made up 35% (or 1,200) of the nearly 3,500 female homicide victims."
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
That's 16,500 total homicide victims. Approximately 93% of whom were killed by someone from their own race. Although many on the left are loath to admit this, American murders have been dropping since the early 1990s. Parse out your numbers (100 a month is probably on the very high end but what the hell, go with it), and when you contemplate mathematical certainties -- policing is a dangerous line of work, dealing with unpredictable and unruly people regularly, "X" number of confrontations are certain to result in death -- and 100 killings a month don't shock me in the slightest.
We have a problem these days making a desire for perfect policing the enemy of good policing. That foolishness has to stop. Monitor them closely, yes. Make them be accountable, yes. Seek to regularly increase their professionalism, yes. But this disrespect and general craziness has to stop.
It would be nice, not to mention incredibly helpful, if an honest conversation could be had about the effect of unions (and partisan, Democrat Party politics) on protecting bad police officers. And bad police practices. The most problematic police departments protecting some of the sorriest bad apples in the ranks are in our large, urban cities, controlled for years and years by Democrats. Like Baltimore:
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish?ref=tsfb
And Martin O'Malley, of all people, may be the Democrats best choice for President -- okay?
Our most pressing problem, Stephen, simply isn't cops killing unarmed black men. That's nonsense, and a very real attempt to dodge the very obvious failure of 50 solid years of well-intentioned programs that didn't do a damn thing (positive) for the inner city, in general, or the black community, in particular.
Just give up the ghost, man. Give it up.
Quote from: stephendare on April 29, 2015, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: RattlerGator on April 29, 2015, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 29, 2015, 12:37:02 PM
definitely more troubling that 300 police killings since january.
In a big ass country? Laughably inconsequential when Chicago alone, the President's home town, trumps that most every year.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2014-chicago-murders
Just one town!
Don't play that game, Stephen. Police killings are infinitesimally small when compared to killings, period, in this country.
but a few protestors are 'troubling'?
hmm. sounds like a double standard you've got going there, Rattler.
300 killing in four months is statistically unimportant, but one riot in fifty years is paramount.
I suppose that any other large group of people that killed a hundred people a month (roughly) would also fail to register on your list of things to be alarmed about?
is that your professional opinion or is that actually backed up by any sources or documentation?
Quote from: Metro Jacksonville on April 28, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
Balitmore Mom Slaps Fire Out of Rioting Son
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Other/Misc2/i-WShTJ6k/0/O/baltimore-riots-mom-slap.jpg)
Just a reminder that no matter how clearly lines seem to be drawn, people are still human beings (and occasionally have to answer to their furious moms) See the amazing (and kind of hilarious) video after the jump.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son (http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son)
i DONT find the video funny after reading she HAS 6 children with holes in her jeans. Kids from GOOD Mothers would not even have been out there, much less needing to be pulled away. America just enjoys watching black women go nuts. Im tired of this.
Quote from: Coolyfett on April 30, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
Quote from: Metro Jacksonville on April 28, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
Balitmore Mom Slaps Fire Out of Rioting Son
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Other/Misc2/i-WShTJ6k/0/O/baltimore-riots-mom-slap.jpg)
Just a reminder that no matter how clearly lines seem to be drawn, people are still human beings (and occasionally have to answer to their furious moms) See the amazing (and kind of hilarious) video after the jump.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son (http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-apr-balitmore-mom-slaps-fire-out-of-rioting-son)
i DONT find the video funny after reading she HAS 6 children with holes in her jeans. Kids from GOOD Mothers would not even have been out there, much less needing to be pulled away. America just enjoys watching black women go nuts. Im tired of this.
Six kids, eight kids, twelve kids...doesn't matter. The fact that she went out there and got him and took some responsibility does. I am not saying she's a hero and you're right...that kid should have never been out there. But kids are kids, they defy their parents...and it's good to see that when she saw him, she took parental action and I applaud her for that.
That is all.
QuoteBaltimore's "Hero Mom" has a name. It's Toya Graham.
And the woman lionized nationwide for beating her 16-year-old son on camera, and dragging him away from Monday night's riots, doesn't feel at all like a hero.
"I don't. I don't," Graham told CBS "This Morning" on Wednesday. "My intention was just to get my son and have him be safe." Later in the interview, Graham confesses, "I just lost it." (Watch the whole thing at the end of this post.)
Her moment of losing it made her a hero to much of white America – and not just to the right. Coast to coast, the media is hyping Graham as "Hero Mom" and her on-camera beating as "Tough Love." It's not just Fox News or the "New York Post," whose tabloid "Send in the Moms" front page this time reflects rather than rebukes the mainstream media. And that's heartbreaking.
The debate over the moment Graham says she "lost it" is complex. There's a parallel black debate going on that, as always when it comes to racial issues, is richer and more nuanced. But anyone white who's applauding Graham's moment of desperation, along with the white media figures who are hyping her "heroism," is essentially justifying police brutality, and saying the only way to control black kids is to beat the shit out of them.
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/29/the_hideous_white_hypocrisy_behind_the_baltimore_%E2%80%9Chero_mom%E2%80%9D_hype_how_clueless_media_applause_excuses_police_brutality/
I apologize. :-[ ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCxuAbN9AQ
Quote from: finehoe on April 30, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
QuoteBut anyone white who's applauding Graham's moment of desperation, along with the white media figures who are hyping her "heroism," is essentially justifying police brutality, and saying the only way to control black kids is to beat the shit out of them.
(I'm quoting salon.com, not finehoe here, just to be clear)
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. No one is justifying police brutality. The only way to control
black any kids is to parent them. And if a whooping is in order, so be it. Not child abuse, discipline. White or black. But not from anyone else, police, school, etc. It's 100% on the parents.
You bet your ass that kid hasn't gone back out looting, so good parenting works.
Maybe not "Anarchists" but cops:
http://reverbpress.com/features/undercover-cops-infiltrate-protest-movements/
That article also states that the occupy movement was defeated from the inside by extensive use of undercover cops.. really..?
Riots in Seattle, of course it's ignored by the national media. Liberalism at it's finest...When an incident happens in one heavily democratic city, the pernicious effects spread like wildfire to the others...Yes anarchists IS the appropriate word for the actions of uncivilized rampagers. Some don't like to be called a 'thug' but they indulge in thuggish behavior, and it has NOTHING to do with race BTW; You don't wanna be called an 'anarchist' but you 'protest' with violent actions, despise your country and abhor any kind of authority. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
http://q13fox.com/2015/05/01/seattle-may-day-riot-3-officers-injured-16-protesters-arrested-25-vehicles-damaged/
Don't worry. The media doesn't cover all of the work of people looking to stop black on black crime in places like Chicago's Southside either. I guess some things and events aren't deemed as newsworthy as others. Thus, everytime something goes horribly wrong and gets covered, those who don't do their own research immediately start asking questions or making comments about what people aren't doing.