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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: Jax96 on August 15, 2013, 06:17:18 PM

Title: Southside generating property
Post by: Jax96 on August 15, 2013, 06:17:18 PM
Right now, the old power plant land is a gaping empty space in downtown. How much would it cost to 'spruce up' the land and make it into a public space, a la Central Park? It is a pristine location, on the river and a block or so from a skyway stop. The way the city is operating right now, I'm afraid part of that 9 million dollars the council wants back could be used to turn it into another parking lot. Also, a small extension would connect the lot to the riverwalk. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: MEGATRON on August 15, 2013, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: Jax96 on August 15, 2013, 06:17:18 PM
Right now, the old power plant land is a gaping empty space in downtown. How much would it cost to 'spruce up' the land and make it into a public space, a la Central Park? It is a pristine location, on the river and a block or so from a skyway stop. The way the city is operating right now, I'm afraid part of that 9 million dollars the council wants back could be used to turn it into another parking lot. Also, a small extension would connect the lot to the riverwalk. Any suggestions?
Its contaminated
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: vicupstate on August 15, 2013, 07:48:06 PM
I thought JEA cleaned it up, prior to attempting to sell it a few years ago?.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: dougskiles on August 15, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
From what I understand, they did some cleanup work but won't provide a guarantee that it was all removed.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: tufsu1 on August 15, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: Jax96 on August 15, 2013, 06:17:18 PM
Right now, the old power plant land is a gaping empty space in downtown. How much would it cost to 'spruce up' the land and make it into a public space, a la Central Park? It is a pristine location, on the river and a block or so from a skyway stop.

I don't even think of it as downtown...and it is a pretty large block to the skyway station...more like 600' to the closest point
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: thelakelander on August 15, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
I'd like us to attempt to improve and properly maintain the public spaces we already have before we start adding new ones. Also, don't worry about someone turning that property into a parking lot.  That would be a huge money loser.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: icarus on August 15, 2013, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 15, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
I'd like us to attempt to improve and properly maintain the public spaces we already have before we start adding new ones. Also, don't worry about someone turning that property into a parking lot.  That would be a huge money loser.
Well said Sir!
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: Jax96 on August 16, 2013, 01:59:11 AM
Does JEA still own the property or did some other party? Also, contaminated with what?
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: I-10east on August 16, 2013, 03:44:07 AM
^^^According to earthjustice.org, it's contaminated with coal ash; To be specific...aluminum, arsenic, beryllium, chloride, and sulfate.

http://earthjustice.org/features/campaigns/in-harm-s-way-coal-ash-contaminated-sites
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: Noone on August 16, 2013, 05:38:52 AM
Tom Ingram, you still out there?
Let's generate some NOISE with this Public Access point to the St. Johns River our American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative in our new highly restricted DIA zone.
N- No
O- One
I- Is
S- Seriously
E- Engaged

Public, Private, Partnership- Still trying to figure this one out. Another Super Duper potential kayak launch that was on a Super Duper secret FIND list and I affectionately call this location the Jacksonville's Downtown International Redneck kayak launch that is next to the School Board and Riverwalk and right next to the brand new Country Boy fence that was just installed at the JEA property. What was wrong with the old fence? Who is the new guy at JEA? There is no new guy?

Seriously, How much did we just spend on a new fence for this JEA property? Q&A with JEA. Anyone.

Mr. Vitti the new guy. Mr. Wallace the official new guy in 3 days let's take a boat ride from this location and go to the $600,000 (JEA Riverfront Home) I could be higher or lower on this one and someone correct me on this but the point is we'll take it to this and there has to be some kind of future Public, Private, Partnership benefit with this. VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

Special Shout out to others Who may want to see this from the Waterway
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Ben - JCCI We still need to kayak Downtown before 2025
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Paul Anderson
Dan O'Byrne
Vince Seibold
Vivian Harrell
Dana Morton
Commissioners of FIND
Ron Barton
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Jacksonville Waterways Commission members
Jim Dickenson
Susan Cooper Eastman
Andy Johnson
Jill Johnson (Bring your fishing pole)
Kerry Speckman
Governor Scott
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FBI RICO interns looking for an easy slam dunk.
Hooter girls Past, Present, and Future
Anyone wanting to donate to 2009-442. CCA - Corrupt Council Area Reef. Another positive.

I am Downtown and why you aren't.




Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: acme54321 on August 16, 2013, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: Jax96 on August 16, 2013, 01:59:11 AM
Does JEA still own the property or did some other party? Also, contaminated with what?

JEA owns it, but if you are sitting on a cool $32M it could be yours.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: carpnter on August 16, 2013, 08:31:42 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 16, 2013, 03:44:07 AM
^^^According to earthjustice.org, it's contaminated with coal ash; To be specific...aluminum, arsenic, beryllium, chloride, and sulfate.

http://earthjustice.org/features/campaigns/in-harm-s-way-coal-ash-contaminated-sites

They reference the St. Johns River Power Park on the northside, not the old Southside Generating Station site.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: CityLife on August 16, 2013, 08:51:23 AM
There are all kinds of credits and incentives for brownfields redevelopment. If there is ever a market for it, the contamination aspect shouldn't be a dealbreaker.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: I-10east on August 16, 2013, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: carpnter on August 16, 2013, 08:31:42 AM
They reference the St. Johns River Power Park on the northside, not the old Southside Generating Station site.

My bad. I was wondering was it the same place or not, with both having JEA and the St John's River in common.
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: carpnter on August 16, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
Quote from: I-10east on August 16, 2013, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: carpnter on August 16, 2013, 08:31:42 AM
They reference the St. Johns River Power Park on the northside, not the old Southside Generating Station site.

My bad. I was wondering was it the same place or not, with both having JEA and the St John's River in common.

I am sure you are right that there is contamination at the site, you don't operate a power plant for that long and not get some type of soil contamination. There are a number of contaminated sites between the river and I-95 in that area. 
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: I-10east on August 27, 2014, 01:57:25 PM
Talks on a mixed use development that could generate up to 3,500 jobs.

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=543731
Title: Re: Southside generating property
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on August 27, 2014, 01:59:18 PM
Thanks for posting.  I wonder if this relates to the Deutsche Bank speculation.