Looks like Fuddrucker's is trying to move forward. Here is a conceptual view of the outside. Lets hope this bid is for real!
Quote from: LDI-Line www.ldiline.comhttp://ldiline.com/showpdf.cfm?proj=3688&file=100ARC_A309.pdf&dir=ARC
More floorplans here:
http://ldiline.com/select_files.cfm?proj=3688
Good for them, downtown and the Landing. I noticed that the entrance to the restaurant will be in the mall as opposed to the courtyard. Hopefully, that changes because they don't appear to taking advantage of having an outdoor seating area near the main courtyard.
I thought they were dead in the water for sure. Good thing they're finally moving forward.
Does their space have frontage on Water Street?
No. Its right next to Twisted Martini.
Ahh, ok. For some reason I was thinking it was between the mall corridor and Water Street. I gotcha now.
Good to see it moving ahead. Hopefully they put out a good product. My experiences with their locations have been hit or miss.
Wow - I'm pleasantly shocked. I thought this was beyond dead.
so...there are floorplans...there were floorplans for "The Cove" and the Kuhn project at Barnett Bank Building also.
anyone know a new timeframe for completion?
Sleiman's still using that space (what is it -- four store fronts, five?) for storage for his little attempt at a bar that used to be where there was always a candy store. Unless they've begun some dramatic work since I left for New Haven Thursday, nothing, NOTHING has happened in that space.
I could write a tome on the misleading mistake that that space is.
For what it's worth, we were told they would take advantage of the breezeway for seating. Two years ago, was it?
>:( >:( >:(
From a Jacksonville.com article on food at the landing.
"David Farmer is among those betting on the Landing. Farmer, who lives downtown, has been working on a deal to open a Fuddruckers hamburger restaurant at the Landing for years and said the end is finally in sight.
Construction, which has started and stopped in spurts over the years, is now fully under way, Farmer said. He expects an opening by the end of the year."
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/101608/lif_344028180.shtml
let's see if it really opens by the end of the year.
is it possible to chalk up the delays just to little to no ambition on the part of the people Farmer is working with in this town?
Quote from: Driven1 on October 16, 2008, 10:28:30 AM
is it possible to chalk up the delays just to little to no ambition on the part of the people Farmer is working with in this town?
Who does Farmer work for?
I'm excited that this is finally moving forward. I can't wait. Fuddrucker's rocks, and it'll give me another reason to go to the Landing more often.
I agree with the article that there is nothing special at the Landing to go out of your way for. Now, if Fuddruckers at the Landing is the only one in town for a while, then that may change. Also, I am a bit concerned about all the health violations.
I'll be fine with Fuddrucker's if there are no health violations there too!
Some of the violations they listed for that "Bourbon Express" were just gross and scary
I hate to say it but the Landing is terrible. I went there the other day and it is shocking to see how it has declined as compared with its heyday. It is sad that stupid politicians (read Peyton) stood in the way of positive improvements at this downtown centerpiece.
The political fight to torpedo Sleiman's past expansion plans is one of the worst recent things to happen to downtown. Demographics aren't the only reason why Orange Park Mall and The Avenues continue to be successful, while others like Regency and Gateway lose their market share. They continue to renovate and update their tenant base to remain competitive destinations. The Landing's problems are no different than what happens to any other 20 year old non-renovated shopping center. It not only needs to excell at finding its on unique niche in this marketplace. More importantly, its in need of a makeover and a good scrubbing. Until that happens, it will continue to be hit and miss regardless of what tenants move in.
Quote from: 77danj7 on October 16, 2008, 10:52:21 AM
I'll be fine with Fuddrucker's if there are no health violations there too!
Some of the violations they listed for that "Bourbon Express" were just gross and scary
Oh man really? I didn't know about the violations.....I ate there 3 times a week for a year. Are we talking roach legs in the mash potatos or just not having a sneeze guard?
Here you go David...
Problems at Bourbon Express, according to an inspection report from the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation, included buildup of slime in the ice maker, dozens of dead and live roaches on site and grease accumulation in the kitchen.
My guess is that David would have preferred to go on in blissful ignorance. Having eaten there once myself, I would have as well. Don't ask, don't tell isn't just for the military, its for Taco Bell too. :)
Just wondering, what happens if Bourbon Express has pest control come monthly? Will this make a difference? I would guess not if all of the other restaurants aren't doing the same. Sort of seems to me like the property owner should be pest-controlling the entire thing if they really want to help it be successful (and charge for it in CAM rate).
Well it all makes sense now. It's no wonder you could get that much food for 5.45! I know there's roaches in the food, but...really, do you know how hard it is to get lunch downtown for under 8 bucks? At least I know my immune system's functioning properly....but please don't tell me Pete's pizza has been hit with numerous healthcode violations as well. That was where I ate the other two days a week when working downtown. 3 slices and a drink for 3.99!
I would think in an environment like the Landing the property owner do pest control for the whole building as well....
Should you discover to your horror that you've accidentally ingested a quantity of roaches, Bourbon Express should be one of your first stops. There may be no known medical way to kill roaches within the human digestive tract, but drink enough bourbon and you can hear the little devils screaming out in pain all night long.
Ocklawaha
:D :D
Where was the Bourbon Express located anyway? The Food Court?
Right. It's located at the begining of the food court right as you get off the esculator. There's usually someone handing out free samples around lunch time. It's pretty tasty chicken too, so that sucks about the health code violations.
I suggest the terriyaki chicken stand around the corner as a substitue, also reasonably priced and delicious!
I have eaten at Bourbon Express years ago, hopefully in the pre-roaches days.
The terriyaki chicken stand is pretty good. I have eaten there fairly recently. It is hard to believe that just one stall would have roaches though and the rest would not. They are all right next to each other.
A few years back I purchased two dinners from the chinese restaurant about two stalls down from Bourbon Express. When I got home and prepared to chow down I opened the lid to find they had garnished my fried rice with a great big roach whole body intact. I had to call the Landing management to get my money back.
Hopefully things have improved since then!!!
That's it. I am never eating at the Landing again.
Quote from: Seraphs on October 16, 2008, 06:29:16 PM
A few years back I purchased two dinners from the chinese restaurant about two stalls down from Bourbon Express. When I got home and prepared to chow down I opened the lid to find they had garnished my fried rice with a great big roach whole body intact.
Oh wow, I didn't know they prepared such authentic dishes at the Landing.
Quote from: David on October 16, 2008, 02:56:29 PM
Well it all makes sense now. It's no wonder you could get that much food for 5.45! I know there's roaches in the food, but...really, do you know how hard it is to get lunch downtown for under 8 bucks? At least I know my immune system's functioning properly....but please don't tell me Pete's pizza has been hit with numerous healthcode violations as well. That was where I ate the other two days a week when working downtown. 3 slices and a drink for 3.99!
no...you can rest easy...they've actually had several perfect reviews with no violations!
$3.99 for a drink and three slices of Pizza? A jumbo hotdog from a street vendor will cost you $2.50. That's a great deal.
Yep it's no Renas/Als/Chicago Pizza, but 3 slices usually held me over from my 1130 am lunch break until dinner time. Great place to go when you can't decide on anything or if you're just craving some good greasy pizza. Extra slices are only .99 cents more as well.
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 16, 2008, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: Seraphs on October 16, 2008, 06:29:16 PM
A few years back I purchased two dinners from the chinese restaurant about two stalls down from Bourbon Express. When I got home and prepared to chow down I opened the lid to find they had garnished my fried rice with a great big roach whole body intact.
Oh wow, I didn't know they prepared such authentic dishes at the Landing.
hahah yes, it's a fear-factor inspired delicacy.
By the way, how is Fuddrucker's coming along?
The area is walled off and I think there is a CD playing "construction noises" inside... other than that... nothing as far as I can tell.
Is the Coming Soon sign even there anymore?
no the signs have been gone for a while now. nothing is happening.
Anyone have any updates? The landing's website still says "coming soon."
I hope they will eventually open at The Landing. Haven't we heard coming soon about the parking garage for the last 20 years also?
I think it will open when JTB is extended to Roosevelt.
New action at the Landing. From the Daily Record. this is exciting news!
"Keep the faith, burger lovers: Construction has resumed in earnest at the Fuddruckers location at the Landing. The interior framing is almost complete and a peek at the blueprints shows an outdoor covered patio extending into the walkway adjacent to Benny’s Steaks & Seafood and an in-house bakery with a service window across from The Toy Factory. Franchise owner David Farmer expects to flip the first Fuddrucker some time in April."
Wow, the Landing is making a major move in this economical crunch. Fuddruckers starts making progress again, they get Gold's Gym, Orange Tree & my favorite La Nopalera (even if it is under a different name).
I will go the first day if they open. And for as long as we have waited, it better be damn good.
Hopefully this seemingly-smart business maneuver (or at least, progress) made now pays off later when the economy rebounds. I can certainly feel optimistic about this, as not only are tenants filling spaces within the Landing, but also bringing name-brand recognition.
Hopefully this is the first step towards the wider goal of The Landing's revitalization that's been dreamt about yet so elusive.
I wonder if any of this new activity would have happened without Tony Sleiman.
Quote from: David on October 17, 2008, 03:00:28 AM
Quote from: ProjectMaximus on October 16, 2008, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: Seraphs on October 16, 2008, 06:29:16 PM
A few years back I purchased two dinners from the chinese restaurant about two stalls down from Bourbon Express. When I got home and prepared to chow down I opened the lid to find they had garnished my fried rice with a great big roach whole body intact.
Oh wow, I didn't know they prepared such authentic dishes at the Landing.
hahah yes, it's a fear-factor inspired delicacy.
In the event that you find yourself hungry try the following 'succulent' cockroach recipe.
Simmer cockroaches in vinegar. Then boil with butter, farina flour, pepper and salt to make a paste. Spread on buttered bread.
NO FEAR? OCKLAWAHA
Could be time to break out the Simvastatin!
I do like Fuddruckers, but in the past I only got it when I was in Atlanta, SC, or S. Fla. Now it is going to be walking distance! :o
Just wanted to know if any of you down-towners could update the status of the Fuddruckers?
THey are still working on it, but it looks FAR from being complete
Yeah, still moving forward...they're working on bidding the build out now.