http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BPq0O9wa4pQ
http://youtu.be/-X7CRLqO-Jo
It's been all over the news. Front page on Drudge. Nothing but harmless children having fun! move on. (sarcastically)
As an africian american I am pissed! And we wonder why we have the reputation we do? Our children are acting like damn animals! And where were the parents????? Probably sitting in Kendall Court not knowing where they damn kids were. I was borned and raised on the northside and Ive noticed that I had a heck of a good upbringing compared to this kids. Even as a teenager with a car, I knew not to be invovled in some mess like that. My parents would have hung me. I was not even allowed to go to parties or spend the night out. I cant even get up the nerves to watch the video.
^ :o
Quote from: Timkin on July 18, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
^ :o
Timkin I can not stand ingnorance regardless of the race. And this was Ig-Nant as hell LOL
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 18, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
As an africian american ...My parents would have hung me.
;) See, when I say shit like this, people take it the wrong way.... :P
What the blazing f*** is this? I betcha someone on the internet had a great idea and got them together.
-Josh
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on July 18, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 18, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
As an africian american ...My parents would have hung me.
;) See, when I say shit like this, people take it the wrong way.... :P
SMH you are in time out for the rest of the day ;D
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 18, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on July 18, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on July 18, 2012, 01:15:14 PM
As an africian american ...My parents would have hung me.
;) See, when I say shit like this, people take it the wrong way.... :P
SMH you are in time out for the rest of the day ;D
:D
Can't watch it Duval Dude? I understand, I have yet been able to watch the movie 'Gettysburg' for similar reasons. It's just hard to watch when things go to hell in a hand basket. I agree that someone, somewhere, set this up and the damage will go far beyond any loss that Wal-Mart might have suffered. When these things go viral it smears the image of the entire city.
This has been happening more frequently in cities across the country. There's also been a rash of youth out randomly killing (refer to the killing of 60 year old father of 12 in Chicago in a youth game of "Knock 'em Dead"). Near me there have been a lot of armed robberies on and immediately around my undergrad alma mater, and some home and dorm room invasions. Scary stuff...these youth. My building has soured in a similar fashion and I'm moving on Friday.
It's too bad all the bad stuff I'm referring to is the result of one small group of people just playing out their stereotype. It's really bad when Huffinton Post's comments section turns from typically PC to ultra racist and conservative (anti-Obama, etc). Then you know we have a problem on our hands and people are all kind of thinking the same things. :o
I hate that this has gone viral..... Makes the 904 look bad.
http://www.youtube.com/v/BNnM24FVVAQ
Thanks TheCat... for the video of people trying to BUY stuff. Which apparently is exactly the same thing that happened at the WalMart.
Awesome! :o
This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children. Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.
Lem Turner location.....yawn
.....what are the chances Normandy and 103rd street goes this direction?
Quote from: Garden guy on July 18, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children. Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.
Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. As many lawyers, doctors, CEO's, etc would be arrested as would lower class people. In fact, a recent Florida Governor would have been arrested while in office.
Bridgetroll, ha, yes, I bet some of those kids bought stuff. I should find the videos of the mob scenes where America's adults trample over other adults to buy stuff. As long as you are buying any behavior is okay, right? God forbid, you act foolish when your not forking over money. That's stupid. Is that how we define proper behavior? This is over $1,500 dollars which I will bet $15 is totally made up. Police asks wal-mart manager "how much do you think was stolen or damaged?"
Wal-mart manager says "well, based on our flash mob algorithms we are estimating that each youth stole $3.00 worth of product and damaged another $2.00 worth of goods and infrastructure, 300 x $5 = $1500. But we won't know the full extent of the damage until we do our quarterly inventory in 45 days."
I have to give those kids credit for self-restraint. Did anyone else see the giant containers of watermelons? I'd take everyone's commentary on wal-mart behavioral ethics a little more seriously if those watermelons were smashed all over the floor. But that didn't happen. In fact, from that video. I don't see kids doing anything but being excited and loud and possibly, obnoxious.
Instead, of freaking out about what the kids actually did which is nothing. Let's talk about the real fear...what if it had become something serious. That's the scary part, right? It didn't though. To make some statement about black culture based on a three minute video of youth fleeing a party and congregating at another location is wrong. To say things like, that's "why black people have such a bad rep." is also wrong.
Garden Guy, to call those kids stupid. Or, their parents stupid...really? You know, America does a really good job putting people in jail. It's amazing how effective that hasn't been.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YOVD-m8urJU
Quote from: wsansewjs on July 18, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
What the blazing f*** is this? I betcha someone on the internet had a great idea and got them together.
-Josh
The kid who did the cellphone filming claims to have been just a bystander...who decided that it would be a great thing to put on youtube!!!
Quote from: Know Growth on July 18, 2012, 05:40:51 PM
Lem Turner location.....yawn
.....what are the chances Normandy and 103rd street goes this direction?
Very Very high!!! It would have last a lot longer at those two.
The video originally posted has been deleted off youtube. The video I found was very shaky. So what I could tell was, essentially a bunch of kids (300?) decided to run inside Walmart on Lem Turner. Throw a few things around, grab a piece of candy and run out the door?? While I get it could have been a very bad situation and I am sure the scared the hell out of the employees. The fact that they got 300 kids together to pull a prank like that and they didn't destroy is impressive. I am with theCAt on this one. If they had meant harm those watermelons would have been flying at one another's heads.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-17/story/saturday-night-flash-mob-takes-over-jacksonville-wal-mart
According to this, shots were fired outside that Wal-mart.
I don't think this is a small thing. If a group that large can get away with that, they could be emboldened to do worse.
Episodes never experienced in the past are of concern to some.And some not.
Many have commented on the reporting lag time.
Next:Possibly Normandy Blvd,103rd street treated as casual happening.
But not as likely at say,Clay,St. Johns.We see here a hint to regional demographics,driver behind militant anti Duval theme.
As kids in 60's and 70's era North Miami we never would have conducted ourselves in this manner. A certain discernment.
Oh,and boy did we embrace "diversity".
By the the time I entered the ninth grade North dade public schools were in the beginning stages of desegregation.
We were committed and lenient,even when gravely threatened by the recent blck school mates.Schools would close early for the summer due to riot threats.But we were optimistic,hopeful,accepting.
The once idyllic neighborhood of my youth remains not so diverse.predominant white populatioin swapped for predominant black population.
it is unsafe to walk the streets of my youth.Former neighbors rarely visit the place,depressed over the transformation.
A recent round of North Dade crime has been blamed on the heat.
North Dade CVS Flash Mob ocurred earlier this year.Chamber of Commerce picture perfect weather.
We didn't have air conditioning at school until about the ninth grade.
Quote from: CityLife on July 18, 2012, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Garden guy on July 18, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children. Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.
Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. As many lawyers, doctors, CEO's, etc would be arrested as would lower class people. In fact, a recent Florida Governor would have been arrested while in office.
Exactly, ANYONE that has had the distinct displeasure of raising a teenager can attest to the FACT that kids do STUPID things, and good kids often do STUPID and even occasionally DEADLY things. It's possible through DNA, bad luck, or just plain meanness that a excellent parents have kiddies in prison, in gangs, or in cemeteries. When little Johnny vanishes for the night, there is not a damn thing mom and dad can do to 'fix' whatever jam he might come across.
Quote from: danem on July 18, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-17/story/saturday-night-flash-mob-takes-over-jacksonville-wal-mart
According to this, shots were fired outside that Wal-mart.
I don't think this is a small thing. If a group that large can get away with that, they could be emboldened to do worse.
All I did was watch the video. That is an entirely different thing if true.
HLN dubbed the Lem Turner crew, the "Smash Mob" although they're seemed to be more petty thief, than smashing. When I think of 'flash mobs' I think of a safe environment, with a group of people doing Michael Jackson's thriller dance, or something like that. Either way, they continue to ensure that the 'thuggish black stereotype' stay alive. I really don't understand my (black) race. What I look at as 'telling it like it is' ;Unfortunately if you're white, and mildly criticize aspects concerning the black community, than you're deemed a 'racist', and if you're black, then you are an Uncle Tom. All of those youtube links to Lem Turner Wal-Mart involving violent people of my race speaks for itself.
Quote from: Know Growth on July 18, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Episodes never experienced in the past are of concern to some.And some not.
Many have commented on the reporting lag time.
Next:Possibly Normandy Blvd,103rd street treated as casual happening.
But not as likely at say,Clay,St. Johns.We see here a hint to regional demographics,driver behind militant anti Duval theme.
As kids in 60's and 70's era North Miami we never would have conducted ourselves in this manner. A certain discernment.
Oh,and boy did we embrace "diversity".
By the the time I entered the ninth grade North dade public schools were in the beginning stages of desegregation.
We were committed and lenient,even when gravely threatened by the recent blck school mates.Schools would close early for the summer due to riot threats.But we were optimistic,hopeful,accepting.
The once idyllic neighborhood of my youth remains not so diverse.predominant white populatioin swapped for predominant black population.
it is unsafe to walk the streets of my youth.Former neighbors rarely visit the place,depressed over the transformation.
A recent round of North Dade crime has been blamed on the heat.
North Dade CVS Flash Mob ocurred earlier this year.Chamber of Commerce picture perfect weather.
We didn't have air conditioning at school until about the ninth grade.
Yes, Miami in the 70s, the very picture of law-abiding tranquility...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/ScarfacePacino.jpg)
I10east, we would not be having social commentary about white culture if the teens were white. That's pretty much it. We only seem to typify and stereotype a culture when it is the "other." It's not about being an uncle tom nor is it about being a racist it is about the irrelevancy of the race topic to the subject, mobbing wal-mart. It's irrelevant that these kids were black.
I was a kid once. And, I was of the rebellious quality. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt teenagers of all races know how to misrepresent their cultural heritage. I feel very confident, and this is an assumptive guess, that most kids did not get a "you're making us look bad" talk...in terms of race relations, anyway.
KnowGrowth, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. My interpretation, the very hopeful white people wanted to love the black people. But those black people ruined everything. Is that correct? If so, what exactly are you saying? Do you think that that story has been played in reverse at any point in American history?
Remember this...how many seconds do you think were spent in discussion about the modern state of white canadians?
http://www.youtube.com/v/1q5V6DKH3bw
Quote from: TheCat on July 18, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
Bridgetroll, ha, yes, I bet some of those kids bought stuff. I should find the videos of the mob scenes where America's adults trample over other adults to buy stuff. As long as you are buying any behavior is okay, right? God forbid, you act foolish when your not forking over money. That's stupid. Is that how we define proper behavior? This is over $1,500 dollars which I will bet $15 is totally made up. Police asks wal-mart manager "how much do you think was stolen or damaged?"
Wal-mart manager says "well, based on our flash mob algorithms we are estimating that each youth stole $3.00 worth of product and damaged another $2.00 worth of goods and infrastructure, 300 x $5 = $1500. But we won't know the full extent of the damage until we do our quarterly inventory in 45 days."
I have to give those kids credit for self-restraint. Did anyone else see the giant containers of watermelons? I'd take everyone's commentary on wal-mart behavioral ethics a little more seriously if those watermelons were smashed all over the floor. But that didn't happen. In fact, from that video. I don't see kids doing anything but being excited and loud and possibly, obnoxious.
Instead, of freaking out about what the kids actually did which is nothing. Let's talk about the real fear...what if it had become something serious. That's the scary part, right? It didn't though. To make some statement about black culture based on a three minute video of youth fleeing a party and congregating at another location is wrong. To say things like, that's "why black people have such a bad rep." is also wrong.
Garden Guy, to call those kids stupid. Or, their parents stupid...really? You know, America does a really good job putting people in jail. It's amazing how effective that hasn't been.
Rofl... thanks Thecat... you are part of the problem. You offer refuge, excuses, and justifications (in your mind) to the people in this video...
QuoteI have to give those kids credit for self-restraint.
Really?? I mean... REALLY?? :o ::) ???
Blaming Bush would make more sense... :o
Anyone can destroy a Walmart.
If you really want to impress me, put a Big Lots back together...
Quote from: KenFSU on July 19, 2012, 09:23:28 AM
Anyone can destroy a Walmart.
If you really want to impress me, put a Big Lots back together...
Ken Wins!!
QuoteRofl... thanks Thecat... you are part of the problem. You offer refuge, excuses, and justifications (in your mind) to the people in this video...
Please answer: 1) What is the problem? 2) What are my excuses to the problem?
I'm making two points: 1) Race is irrelevant to this situation 2) nothing happened at this wal-mart - which probably has more than 1500 dollars worth of goods stolen from them everyday. Oh, and a third point 3) race is not discussed when social "chaos" is created by non-blacks. Unless the situation is a direct result of a race issue it's not relevant. Meaning, if the KKK decided to raid a wal-mart you might want to discuss race.
Quote from: TheCat on July 19, 2012, 12:20:07 AM
1) Race is irrelevant to this situation
I10 east, we would not be having social commentary about white culture if the teens were white. That's pretty much it. We only seem to typify and stereotype a culture when it is the "other." It's not about being an uncle tom nor is it about being a racist it is about the irrelevancy of the race topic to the subject, mobbing wal-mart. It's irrelevant that these kids were black.
I was a kid once. And, I was of the rebellious quality. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt teenagers of all races know how to misrepresent their cultural heritage. I feel very confident, and this is an assumptive guess, that most kids did not get a "you're making us look bad" talk...in terms of race relations, anyway.
You're absolutely right, the reaction would be much more muted if the mob was white. It might still be considered a newsworthy situation (like when the flood of white guys stormed Abercrombie and took their shirts off), but race wouldn't be at the forefront of the discussion.
And I completely agree that the reaction -- which is the real story here, not the incident itself -- is based more on fear than reason.
I still don't think you can realistically isolate race from the incident though. Society doesn't exist in a vacuum. To completely divorce the situation -- or more appropriately, the reaction -- from race, culture, and history wouldn't paint an accurate picture. Jacksonville has an extremely ugly history when it comes to race relations, and over the decades, when large groups of blacks congegrate, racial tension tends to boil over quickly. And, far more often than not, the blacks are the ones portrayed in a negative light. The
Jacksonville Journal, for example, painted the relatively peaceful black protesters (and the Boomerangs) as the instigators in the Axe Handle Saturday riots, not with the heavily armed mob waiting to attack them.
It's not a big surprise, then, that some people are reacting as if the mob stormed the store, emptied the registers, and raped the cashiers.
I definitely put a large part of the blame on the local (and national) media as well, who's headlines have suggested a much more destructive, dangerous incident than the one that appears to have actually transpired inside the store.
For all the talk of how progressive Jacksonville is for electing a black mayor, and how much race relations have improved in the last two decades, the city still has a lot of unresolved racial tension that is just waiting to boil back to the surface when things like this happen.
All that said, it was a stupid thing to do regardless of race, and whoever fired the gun in the parking lot needs to spend a year or two in jail.
The PC, bleeding heart liberal way to act to situations like this one (and the Regency shooting etc etc etc) is turn a blind eye, and to be in denial, because everything is all hunky-dory in the black community. Black on black violence isn't commonplace throughout the USA. As a black man, I'm NOT supposed to be disgraced when I see scenes like the Lem Turner crew across the USA, many WAY more worse with violent outcomes. Some blacks even making people out of martyrs; Attacking innocent people (non black) that had nothing to do with G. Zimmerman because they are doing it "for Treyvon". So keep living in denial. Please don't try to me me out like I'm against my own race; I love my race, I just got that old school mindset for calling things out like I see them.
KenFSU...yes. I appreciate that perspective. However, that makes the conversation not about what happened in the wal-mart but about our reaction to what happened. That seems like a more interesting conversation.
I10East, I'm seriously confounded. You have to know that evil is common to every race. It is not uniquely black like you seem to think. Should I list out other heinous crimes committed by other races? That's not necessary, right?
I don't have to find links to crimes committed against blacks just because they were black, do I?
Please tell me how I'm living in denial.
You know what is not the topic of conversation...his race.
You know why...it's not relevant.
http://www.youtube.com/v/FcOXf-U1ZRA
Quote from: TheCat on July 19, 2012, 03:59:36 PM
QuoteRofl... thanks Thecat... you are part of the problem. You offer refuge, excuses, and justifications (in your mind) to the people in this video...
Please answer: 1) What is the problem? 2) What are my excuses to the problem?
I'm making two points: 1) Race is irrelevant to this situation 2) nothing happened at this wal-mart - which probably has more than 1500 dollars worth of goods stolen from them everyday. Oh, and a third point 3) race is not discussed when social "chaos" is created by non-blacks. Unless the situation is a direct result of a race issue it's not relevant. Meaning, if the KKK decided to raid a wal-mart you might want to discuss race.
A) I have not mentioned or referred to race.
B) The problem is conduct... which is clear for all to see.
C) You applaud the restraint of the kids. You do not see an issue with the thefts. (since it is just a Walmart) You give refuge to this conduct.
I suppose there is hope since after all your equivocations and excuses...
QuoteAll that said, it was a stupid thing to do regardless of race
Awesome... :)
Quote from: Ocklawaha on July 18, 2012, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 18, 2012, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: Garden guy on July 18, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
This is simply an example of what our local parents are doing with their children. Shouldn't there be some legal responsibility?...what might happen if every parent of every under aged child involved be arrested every time the child gets in trouble? This also tells us why we have dismal schools....stupid kids come from stupid parents...sounds mean but its true.
Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. As many lawyers, doctors, CEO's, etc would be arrested as would lower class people. In fact, a recent Florida Governor would have been arrested while in office.
Exactly, ANYONE that has had the distinct displeasure of raising a teenager can attest to the FACT that kids do STUPID things, and good kids often do STUPID and even occasionally DEADLY things. It's possible through DNA, bad luck, or just plain meanness that a excellent parents have kiddies in prison, in gangs, or in cemeteries. When little Johnny vanishes for the night, there is not a damn thing mom and dad can do to 'fix' whatever jam he might come across.
If these parents were actually responsible for their children they'd be doin time and that child would probably never do it again after a few good ass whippings.....its amazing what parents are letting their babies get away with...this to me this is simply telling us what our community is made of....
As a participating member of this particular flash nob, I don't see what the big deal is....
just blowing off a little steam.
If it makes you feel any better I-10, here are a couple of photos of 'White Boys' acting up.
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White Boys
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White Men
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YvNfpA1P7q4/TmxmyOJqUCI/AAAAAAAAGcQ/TY7QlwGHgPw/s640/tanks-of-the-1st-SS-Panzer-Division-Leibstandarte-SS-Adolf-Hitler-n-Kharkov-March-1943.jpg)
A 'REAL' smash mob, Tanks-of-the-1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler inKharkov March 1943.
To misquote Ms. Stein, " A mob is a mob is a mob". To quote Heinlein, " ...a beast with 100 bellies and no brain."
Quote from: stephendare on July 18, 2012, 11:51:24 PM
you know......idyllic.
http://digitalcollections.fiu.edu/tequesta/files/1982/82_1_04.pdf
QuoteFrom its earliest days as a tourist playground, Miami and Miami Beach attracted gamblers, bookies, and gangsters.
Racketeering became even more widespread in the post-war era, and in 1955 the Miami Heraldcalled the city the nation's leading gangster haven. When mobsters began buying up swanky Miami Beach hotels in the 1960s,
Newsweek labeled the place "Mob Town, U.S.A."22 In the 1970s, a new kind of crime wave swept metropolitan Miami - illegal drug smuggling, mostly organized by gangs of Columbian "cocaine cowboys."
Like much legitimate business, smuggled cocaine, marijuana, and quaaludes come to Miami by sea and air from Latin America and the Caribbean; like legitimate business profits, much of the drug money, properly laundered, finds its way into Miami banks, real estate, and business operations. "Illegal money is the major factor in the current boom in south Florida," says real estate man Kimball.
Almost half of all Miami real estate sales to offshore corpora- tions or foreign investors, Kimball contends, are paid for with laundered "narcobucks." At least four Miami banks, law enforcement authorities say, are actually owned by drug smugglers. Federal officials estimate that at least 28 billion dollars worth of illegal drugs come into the United States through south Florida each year.
North Miami's Thomas Sasso Pool was named after a family friend.
Mr.Sasso eventually tangled up in wrong doing.
Carl Hiaasen grew up nearby,over the county line.
In high school for a project I wanted to track ownersip info,patterns on particular parcels.....my instructor advised against it.
The neighborhood and many other elements were in fact "Idyllic",now not so.
Miami's lost inocence is appealing,and worth having lived through.I am glad I grew up there rather than here.
Carl Hiassen,in his book "Kick Ass",a compilation of some of his hardest hitting editorials,tied some of it together for me in the piece "Jacksonville's Millionth Mania". (hard copy edition)
Idyllic
Thanks for the predictable remarks Ock.... Did I ever say that blacks were the only ones committing crimes? No, but yall love twisting my words. I was talking specifically about in the black community, which I hold to a high standard (hopefully that's okay) but as alot of MJers do, yall always tilt the subject and talk about the crime in the population of the entire world, like after the Boston Vancouver Stanley Cup, soccer hooligan fights, the Nazi rise with Hitler etc, etc, etc. Just like if I was to talk about a problem in another city, than someone would come back with the obligatory predictable Jax-diss type comment "Well atleast they have blah blah blah park, and a vibrant entertainment district." How predictable. Using the Aurora shooting is pretty low as an example Stephen, and don't get me wrong, I'm not one of these uptight easily offended type people either; You could have simply made an Aurora movie tragedy thread, and moved on. I won't say anything about crime in the black community again on MJ; I thought that yall were big boys that could handle a lil' outspoken, unbiased, and un-PC chat for a little bit, but the PC monster rears it's ugly head.
Parents, character, and personal responsibility. It has nothing to do with race except when large groups of one race or class exhibit such a lack of restraint/responsible behavior. I will leave the systemic reasons in this case to I-10, as he seems to have the best insight.
I-10 east, I think you and a few others started with the predictable comments. It's fine to talk about crime in the black community...but that conversation happens all of the time. We never have conversations about crime in the white community. We never talk about the cultural implications for white america when white teenage boys shoot out schools and kill large numbers of people. When it's white america we, generally speaking, know to dissociate the individual actions of a few from their general demographic.
That's why I brought up the vancouver riots and the australian party because race was not and will never be a fixture of the conversation. I can only imagine the bold punditry that would occur if black americans started rioting after a major sporting event.
So, I was hoping we could kill that aspect of the predictable commentary about black america and those kids who ran into a walmart then ran out, with out doing anything at all worth discussing. I'm also hoping to kill this false idea of racial public relations "making black people look bad." Do those kids make you look bad? They're not you. You weren't there. You didn't set it up. You didin't encourage it. You think it was a terrible thing. So, how can they make you look bad, right?
Bridgetroll, I don't know that thefts happened and neither does wal-mart. I don't condone stealing nor do I excuse it not for walmart's sake but for the sake of the kids who may have stolen, morally and legally speaking. And, again, based off of that video I didn't see conduct that was nefarious I saw conduct that was uproarious. I'm not sure if their conduct is worth condoning or condemning.
If I saw those kids on the way to Wal-Mart my major concern wouldn't be for wal-mart but for those kids. The dumbest thing they did was underestimate the potential for over zealous employees and police who see a group of black kids and decide they need to take action.
Quote from: TheCat on July 22, 2012, 03:17:53 PM
We never talk about the cultural implications for white america when white teenage boys shoot out schools and kill large numbers of people.
Does anybody know the actual total number of people shot in Colorado because the news' numbers are contradicting each other
Quote from: stephendare on July 21, 2012, 12:32:50 AM
whatever idyllic man.
You made your point about how you feel now that the colored peoples have moved in.
True colors in your post.
I feel sorry for you.
OK Mr. G!
I speak only in regards to demographic shift,influence,historical comparison. Apparently I am about twenty years ahead of you.You were lax on Five Points riot-when the community rises to it"s feet in concern and response you snicker,or create silly dark posters.So be it.
At least we here in Jacksonville do not hear reference to "The Triangle"; Miami's Opa-locka section where a great number of shootings have taken place consistently for the past.....20 years.
Come to think about it,maybe we have our own version,perhaps a bit shorter in time span (maybe not) and perhaps not so triangular.........inverted "L",reversed inverted "L". These things are worth watching.
Carl Hiaasen might be interested. Take the heat off bad 'ol MiaMI.
Quote from: stephendare on July 22, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Quote from: Know Growth on July 22, 2012, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 21, 2012, 12:32:50 AM
whatever idyllic man.
You made your point about how you feel now that the colored peoples have moved in.
True colors in your post.
I feel sorry for you.
OK Mr. G!
At least we here in Jacksonville do not hear reference to "The Triangle"; Miami's Opa-locka section where a great number of shootings have taken place consistently for the past.....20 years.
Come to think about it,maybe we have our own version,perhaps a bit shorter in time span (maybe not) and perhaps not so triangular.........inverted "L",reversed inverted "L". These things are worth watching.
Carl Hiaasen might be interested. Take the heat off bad 'ol MiaMI.
Whatever. Your theories on how Miami was ruined by the coloreds is way more interesting than anything Mr. Hiaasen has written lately.
Indeed-consider Carl's placement,position..Much more complicated than posting on MJ.
Classic safe followup to "Millionth Mania" would be Shoppes Of Avondale.South Florida readership would likely react: "Too Bad Suckers!" Damn Hicks-Dumb Azzz_ Jack-son-ville
We could go there together....I'll drop you off at certain areas.you on foot.I'll drive away.We do this five days in a row.
No fair alerting Carl ahead of time,the press 'coverage' would impair the study.
We could make practice runs in Jacksonville.
All of this is simply in the interest of demographic study,trends.Obviously way too much here.
Mr. G would make a good Hiaasen character.
Dribbles here proof positive it is best to simply reply/post less.
Well, this was a fun thread. Ock. you cracked me up with "white boys acting up."