QuoteWalt Disney announced Tuesday morning that it will begin using Jacksonville ports for the merchandise it imports to its Central Florida theme parks.
The announcement was made at JaxPort and included Gov. Rick Scott, Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, Port CEO Paul Anderson, Mayor Alvin Brown ... and Mickey Mouse.
Walt Disney announced Tuesday morning that it will begin using Jacksonville ports for the merchandise it imports to its Central Florida theme parks.
The announcement was made at JaxPort and included Gov. Rick Scott, Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, Port CEO Paul Anderson, Mayor Alvin Brown ... and Mickey Mouse.
http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2012-06-19/story/disney-use-jacksonville-ports-ship-orlando-parks
Does anyone know what port was being used before?
Congrats to Jaxport on a new longterm customer!
Quote from: tg on June 19, 2012, 09:55:21 AMDoes anyone know what port was being used before?
I believe, Savannah.
Yes it was Savannah which makes one wonder, was JaxPort really that bad that it made more business sense to truck stuff an extra 150 miles? Kudos to whoever made this deal happen, hopefully this attention will attract more deals.
Here come the carnival people... ;)
EXCELLENT!!!!!
I'm actually surprised they weren't using Port Canaveral....
Still, although this isn't a HUGE announcement, it is another positive coming out of Jax Port. Well done!
this is huge...I mean an additional 2500 TEU on top of the 900,000 that JAXPORT already has each year....that's almost a 0.3% (or 4 trucks per day) increase.....mosty definitely worthy of the Governor's attendance at a press conference!
Brand recognition always helps...
^^Yes. It's the name people, not the number of TEU's in this case. Just be happy regardless. Let the Mayor and Governor continue their love fest!
Yawn.
What a perfect press conference: Gov. Scott, Mayor Brown, and Mickey Mouse.
Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
What a perfect press conference: Gov. Scott, Mayor Brown, and Mickey Mouse.
I was trying to think of a joke when I saw the picture but wasn't coming up with anything.
QuoteI'm actually surprised they weren't using Port Canaveral....
No rail out of Port Canaveral and the 528 is a toll road, two strikes.
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 19, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
QuoteI'm actually surprised they weren't using Port Canaveral....
No rail out of Port Canaveral and the 528 is a toll road, two strikes.
Lucky us! . I am happy to learn this . This means income for Jacksonville. Win Win.
Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
What a perfect press conference: Gov. Scott, Mayor Brown, and Mickey Mouse.
Which one was Mickey Mouse? ;D
Quote from: Timkin on June 19, 2012, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 19, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
QuoteI'm actually surprised they weren't using Port Canaveral....
No rail out of Port Canaveral and the 528 is a toll road, two strikes.
Lucky us! . I am happy to learn this . This means income for Jacksonville. Win Win.
But... I thought toll roads were a good thing. Maybe not? What?
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 19, 2012, 03:05:03 PM
But... I thought toll roads were a good thing. Maybe not? What?
Obviously it would be socialism if everyone paid for a road that only some use. ::)
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 19, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
No rail out of Port Canaveral and the 528 is a toll road, two strikes.
The rail I get, but is avoiding the toll really worth transporting the goods an extra 100 or 200 miles?
Port Canaveral is a cruise terminal, their container traffic is very small compared to Jax. Tampa would have been the other best option, my thinking, but there has to be some connection to Jax/Savannah that we are not aware of here, otherwise, Tampa would have been just down the street from Disney. Why not there?
^ That was my next thought after Port Canaveral. Just didn't want to give anyone any ideas :)
Port Canaveral currently has no container berths at their port
Yeah, I was wondering why not Tampa. Perhaps Port of Jacksonville just offers something else that compensates for the extra 70 or so miles.
As a deep water cargo port, it has a high volume of traffic. Over 3,000,000 short tons (2,700,000 t) of bulk cargo moves through each year. Common cargo includes cement, petroleum and aggregate. The port has conveyors and hoppers for loading products directly into trucks, and facilities for bulk cargo containers. The channel is about 44 feet (13 m) deep.[1]
There is 750,000 square feet (70,000 m2) of covered freight storage capacity. It handled 4,000,000 short tons (3,600,000 t) of cargo in 2004. The port exports fresh citrus; bulk frozen citrus juice stored in one of the largest freezer warehouses in the state; cement and building materials. The port receives lumber, salt for water softening, automobiles, and steel sheet and plate. It transships items for land, sea, air and space. Port Canaveral's Foreign Trade Zone is among the largest general purpose FTZs in the nation - over 5 square miles (13 km2). The port boosts Brevard's economy by 1/2 billion dollars annually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Canaveral
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 20, 2012, 06:07:55 AM
Port Canaveral is a cruise terminal, their container traffic is very small compared to Jax. Tampa would have been the other best option, my thinking, but there has to be some connection to Jax/Savannah that we are not aware of here, otherwise, Tampa would have been just down the street from Disney. Why not there?
Port Canaveral is currently without any container facilities, though a container terminal on the north side of the port is in the planning stages. Without rail, the port suffers from connectivity, and even with rail it still has no access to Central Florida without going through Jacksonville first. The port does offer RO-RO and has a handsome collection of dockside warehousing. Watch for the FECI 'All Aboard Florida' link to add that needed connection into the heart of Central Florida that the port currently lacks. This should be a red flag to Jacksonville, however our city does have a statement on it. "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"
Port Tampa, has 2100 feet of container berthing with 3 cranes, though it is expandable to many times that size and there are plans to 'grow it.' Another red flag? Maybe, but Tampa and Port Canaveral, even with the FECI rail link still lacks the diversity of rail that Jacksonville offers. Put another way Tampa boasts 3 container cranes, Jacksonville has 18 with more in the works. Our Tri-Pac Terminal alone offers more cranes and 2400 feet of berth. Tampa is number one in Florida in tonnage only because it is a port for ROCKS, IE: phosphate.
The message is simple, we have them soundly out classed, so we needn't worry over it. Just like when we were the states biggest city, the leading financial center, the 'Queen of the Winter Resorts,' or controlled state politics. "It's a Long Way to Tipperary..."
Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 20, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Port Canaveral is currently without any container facilities
Their website claims differently:
(http://www.portcanaveral.com/cargo/phototour/cargoexport.jpg)
http://www.portcanaveral.com/cargo/cargophotos.php
The other thing to consider is that Disney's cargo is only a fraction of the cargo it is paired with on a transport ship. A handfull of the thousands of containers will not steer a ship to a different port for Disney's sake. The other 98.5% of the ship's cargo is what sets the port of call. Disney is likely comitted to a certain Asian transport company to move their goods and that Asian company now likely has the strongest ties to JaxPort.
Quote from: finehoe on June 20, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 20, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Port Canaveral is currently without any container facilities
Their website claims differently:
maybe someone should tell their CEO
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20120620/BUSINESS/306190042/Port-CEO-s-goal-Steer-Disney-cargo-Canaveral
Apparently they handle cargo containers, just smaller ones than is needed for Disney.
Translation: There is a lot o' plastic junk coming from China to JaxPort.
QuoteTheir website claims differently:
And every website is 100% complete and factual and no one would ever promote something they did not do, or even lie to the public?????
LOL!
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 20, 2012, 07:39:11 PM
And every website is 100% complete and factual
That's certainly true of everything I read on the
Metro Jacksonville website. ;D
I am just happy Disney is using Jax. At the end of the day, this is a good thing for us and I think we can all agree to just be glad they are !
Quote from: finehoe on June 20, 2012, 01:16:16 PM
Apparently they handle cargo containers, just smaller ones than is needed for Disney.
Translation: There is a lot o' plastic junk coming from China to JaxPort.
That "container crane" looks like quite the rig, LOL! Hardly standard fare. I would imagine they are not handling anything for Disney in the way of plastic junk, because that will involve huge (read trainloads of containers) volumes. If they handle anything for Disney at the cargo port it is probably parts and supplies for the cruise ships.
They do have an amazing space for the container port on the north side but without rail it's growth potential is about slim to a not much. IF, and this is a huge IF, the current FECI rails reach Cocoa, and they manage to hammer out a deal to use trackage rights over NASA'S railroad (something denied in the past due to remote possibilities of interference with the Shuttle and other launches). It really would be as simple as a short extension southward, and setting up a class system for train dispatch. NASA and USAF trains would run as first class with an absolute no interference policy, the port trains would run as second class, inferior to all first class trains. It's an easy fix if they can pull it off, but it will still require 10+ miles of track and a 3-4 mile bridge and causeway or a longer route past the VAB and south through Cape Canaveral AFB.
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QuoteIt really would be as simple as a short extension southward, and setting up a class system for train dispatch. NASA and USAF trains would run as first class with an absolute no interference policy, the port trains would run as second class, inferior to all first class trains. It's an easy fix if they can pull it off, but it will still require 10+ miles of track and a 3-4 mile bridge and causeway or a longer route past the VAB and south through Cape Canaveral AFB.
Simple, but not easy, that is still Cape Canaveral Air Force Station and it is not easy to get on that facility, still to this day. The rail lines you speak of have closed gates on both sides of the road, basically saying, go away. Sure it CAN be done, but this will not happen without a decommissioning of the NASA area or CCAFS going away all together from this location.
The CC docks are paltry compared to Miami, Jax, Tampa, FTL, the state is setting up its best candidates to serve cargo, why go to the expense to add yet another candidate? Why add all this, when the docks are already thriving with 2-3 cruise ships each week? That is their bread and butter our of Port Canaveral, not containers.