It looks to me like the Jags can clinch the division with two more wins, one of which has to be the Colts. If that happens we should take the division regardless of how the Colts finish out. If we don't beat the Colts then we have to win the remaining three games and hope the Colts fall to either the Tits or Texans because of the tiebreaker rules. The Tits and Texans are already out of the running because of the division games left.
I'm not too worried. We will win threeof the last four. The only real threat out of all three games is the colts. The raiders may give us a little competition, but I think we'll come out on top. It may be a close one though. And why is everyone worried about the fact that the raiders beat the chargers? Two of their six wins is when they defeated the chargers. They are division rivals and they play well against them, just like we do against the colts. The confidence and consistency we have displayed the past month and a half, I think will take us all the way.
As Al Davis says... Just win baby!
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2010, 10:36:13 AM
As Al Davis says... Just win baby!
Actually, that is Vic's original quote that Al Davis took from him.
Houston is always a threat too and we're playing them the last week in their house. I do agree that all four are certainly winable. I would be ecstatic to see an 11-5 finish on the season!
Quote from: wsansewjs on December 08, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2010, 10:36:13 AM
As Al Davis says... Just win baby!
Actually, that is Vic's original quote that Al Davis took from him.
Vic who?
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QuoteFew people can say that during their lifetime they added a phase to America’s popular culture, but then there never has been anything merely average about Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis.
Actually Houston is still alive if they win out and would beat the Jags in the tie breaker even if we win the next 2. I believe the Titans could do the same.
Just win baby!
The Jags were in a similar situation last season. Not for the division but a wildcard... all they had to do was win. We know what happened last year. I am hoping a more mature team shows up for these last four games...
2921 tickets to sell to lift the blackout for the Raiders.
Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 08, 2010, 11:01:00 AM
The Jags were in a similar situation last season. Not for the division but a wildcard... all they had to do was win. We know what happened last year. I am hoping a more mature team shows up for these last four games...
The difference in this season and last season are simple.. The jags this year have been more consistent and displays more confidence. We have also almost mastered winning on the road, with the exception of san diego and we alomst won in NY. The guys have been working hard this year and it shows. I dont think they will let us down too much.
You're right Shwaz. But I don't see Houston beating Baltimore on Monday night.
BT, I think we have a MUCH more mature team than last year. Just wish we still had Kampman up front to put the heat on Manning. He was a big reason we hung in there for the W earlier in the season.
It will also be interesting to see three of our defensive guys (Barnes, Groves, and Big John) playing against their old team.
Beyond maturity, the team is simply better this year.
Healthy Manuwai, continued maturation of younger players, vastly better pass rush (better even without Kampman, really), Alualu, Morrison at MLB allowing Smith to play his more natural OLB.
More than a handful of players who had fairly prominent roles last year would not make this roster or have had their roles significantly limited, because the talent is just better.
Just win, and Indy has already played Houston twice. Win next two games and mission acomplished.
I was really hoping the Tits would pull off a win against Indy. I guess now we should have more motivation to stomp the Raiders because Indy in hot on our tail again!
That Giants game may come back to hunt them. I hope not. Going to be tough next two games. Especially in INDY.
Saw some highlights of the Houston/Baltimore game... they really rallied in the second half. Couldn't tell if the Ravens got a bit smug or if Houston just figured them out.
There is something Fishy about the TExans I cant put my finger. They have some of the best players And have a great team overall, but they keeping losing. I dont know if it is a coaching issue or what, but something definately isnt right. They have made a come back several times this year, just to still lose the game.
^ I agree. Maybe its just the mistakes and giving up the big play more often than making the big play?
I believe I read this on Profootballtalk.com, but the Texans are the first team ever in a season to come back from 14 or more points in the 4th quarter and tie or take the lead to go on and lose the game.
Quote from: Jason on December 15, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
^ I agree. Maybe its just the mistakes and giving up the big play more often than making the big play?
I dont know, but once they get it together, they are going to be a force to be reckon with. I will admit, they are good, they just make too many mistakes that always cost them the game. Fumble, interceptions, etc
Now it looks like we need two wins and a Colts loss to win the division... or we need a division win against the Texans and a Colts loss to the Tits.
Our destiny isn't in our hands anymore....
I think it really boiled down to Garrad and MOJO not having time to pratice together last week. It was very evident they were not on the same page. We had a chance to win once we got on fire, but that inception and the bocthed off side kick killed. But I commend out team for their determiation this year. Through it all they NEVER gave up on a game. Even when they knew they were going to lose. If the commentators was saying how amazing it is that a team that makes so many mistakes has a winning record. These guys are determine.
Even though we lost, this is giving the divison a sign, "Yall better wacth out, we are on your tail!" All in all Im happy.
It boiled down to the Colts being the better team. As long as they have Manning they will be tough to beat. Doesn't matter had bad the skins are, the Jag defense will keep them in the game. We know what to expect from Houston. Its been a fun yr regardless Go Jags!!!!!!!!!!!!
What?? No talk of "the playcalling sucked"? No "fire Del Rio"? No "we need to get rid of Jerrard"?? Man, I need to stay off the team's Facebook page.
Quote from: kells904 on December 20, 2010, 01:42:51 PM
What?? No talk of "the playcalling sucked"? No "fire Del Rio"? No "we need to get rid of Jerrard"?? Man, I need to stay off the team's Facebook page.
To me, the single most pivotal play in the game was Del Rio defying all logic and going for it on 4th down early in the 3rd quarter in Jacksonville territory. We punt that ball, who knows what might have happened. I like the fact that Del Rio has enough confidence in his offense (or maybe enough of a lack of confidence in his defense) to regularly go for it on 4th down, but this call wasn't gutsy, it was pretty darn stupid.
All that aside though, the Jags were outplayed by Indy, plain and simple.
There's plenty of blame to go around.
Still, not going to let one game take away from what a fantastic season the Jags and the city of Jacksonville have had. Let's get a win on Sunday.
IMO, despite the errors, the defensive scheme was way too deep. I assume that was intended to allow the D to "bend and not break" keeping the deep weapons in check while MJD ran all over them on offense. When it was apparent that Mojo wasn't going to get the big yardage, the defense should have played much closer to the line and pressed Manning some more. He lit up the middle like a christmas tree!
Quote from: kells904 on December 20, 2010, 01:42:51 PM
What?? No talk of "the playcalling sucked"? No "fire Del Rio"? No "we need to get rid of Jerrard"?? Man, I need to stay off the team's Facebook page.
Stay far away from there for sure. I think most of its denizens are people who actively root against the Jaguars and/or are in the Tebow Cult.
It also doesn’t help that the Jags let the worst rushing team in the league run the ball 24 times for 155 yards including a TD.
When you fear the pass and have one of the worst secondaries known to football, the run becomes much easier. I hope the team can put this behind them on focus this Sun. 10-6 would be a major accomplishment for this squad.
We officially did it!!!! ZERO BLACKOUTS!!!!
http://www.jaguars.com/fuel/2010Season.aspx (http://www.jaguars.com/fuel/2010Season.aspx)
Quotebut that inception and the bocthed off side kick killed.
An Inception?? Did that game actually happen? Am I actually typing this? Is this real life??
Quote from: JagFan07 on December 21, 2010, 12:08:44 PM
We officially did it!!!! ZERO BLACKOUTS!!!!
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Congrats to the Jags, Team Teal and the fans for righting the ship only one season after having record blackouts!! I hope we have made a statement to the rest of the country and especially Los Angeles, this is Jacksonville's team!
On a side note... I interviewed last week for the Champions Club and during their presentation they mentioned being way ahead of schedule for next season. Most fans are renewing through the new 20/20 deal and many were already signed up for the 30/30. If we can add around 4K to 5k more season ticket holders - there will be no more fuel gauge or blackout watch.
I know right. There wasnt a game on Sunday. I dont what these crazy fans are talking about. We would never embarass ourselve like that. LMAO
I think we definitely gain more fan support this season. I hope we get more than 4k to 5k season ticket holders. I still think Weaver bought up alot of those remaining tickets to lift the black outs. The home game vs Indy and the Monday night were the only games that really seemed full.
^^^yeah I think he bought up the tickets for the last two. It is was very close. But I think the game this week is soley because of the fans. After we beat the Raiders and overcame our 7-5 curse, the tickets started to disappear. I know I have one. Section 227 anyone? :)
Vic strongly implied that military donations sold out the Houston game and that WW bought out the remaining tickets for the Cleveland game. There may have been a corporate buyout of the final tickets for Oakland, but that's no big deal; it is very common in other markets for a corporation or TV station to buy up the last 2,000 or so tickets to a game (it has happened in Cincinnati, SD, and Minnesota repeatedly), and Jacksonville has been much less dependent on corporate support to sell out than many other cities have. Our average # of tickets per season ticket holder account is something like 3 vs. 10 for most teams.
Duvaldude--I'm in 225 when I can make it to Jacksonville; hope to see you at a playoff game
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on December 21, 2010, 01:38:19 PM
Duvaldude--I'm in 225 when I can make it to Jacksonville; hope to see you at a playoff game
Kool! I only made three games this year. But I am getting seasons tickets next year. This has been a hell of a season and I think it was re-energized the team and the fans! I am pumped and dont care what anybody has to say about us. Before we expect the nation to love and respect Jacksonville, we have to start loving our own PERIOD. Go Jags!!!!!!!
INCREDIBLE season for the Jaguars and for the city of Jacksonville.
Zero blackouts.
A new naming-rights deal for the stadium.
Massive Jag pride througout the city.
And a team that completed surpassed expectations.
Nowhere to go but up from here.
i need to renew mine! section 103!!!
^^^ im sure im not the only one that noticed that our offense is our fire? Every week there is a new weapon emerging. Mock my words, next year will be 1999 all over expect we will be the titans!! LOL
Side Note- Our defense sucks
Quote from: duvaldude08 on December 21, 2010, 02:18:08 PM
^^^ im sure I'm not the only one that noticed that our offense is our fire? Every week there is a new weapon emerging. Mock my words, next year will be 1999 all over expect we will be the titans!! LOL
Side Note- Our defense sucks
I do not want to MOCK your words, but all 3 phases of the game will get even better next year with a year of seasoning on Alualu, Lane, Hart, and company. A new QB to learn behind David for a season or two will be good (who knows, it could be Trent Edwards...he is only 27 with 4 years in the league). As long as David and MoJoD can practice together and play healthy, we will win out and hope the Dolts lose one.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on December 21, 2010, 02:18:08 PM
^^^ im sure im not the only one that noticed that our offense is our fire? Every week there is a new weapon emerging. Mock my words, next year will be 1999 all over expect we will be the titans!! LOL
Side Note- Our defense sucks
The D-line is playing really well. Hopefully both Kampman & D'Anthony Smith heal up well during the offseason and make it even better. Cox & Mathis have struggled but they're not the dregs of the league. The LB's are in good shape too - we could maybe use some more speed at the position to cover the tight-ends that have seemed to give us trouble all year. The safety positions are in desperate need at both spots. Considine plays well in nickel & dime, Courtney Greene plays the run pretty solid... now we need a ball hawk type of guy that can cover & close.
2 more drafts and we'll be a dominant force for the years to come.
Quote from: fsujax on December 21, 2010, 01:52:27 PM
i need to renew mine! section 103!!!
Hey I'm in SEC 103 row AA. 30/30 plan here so I'll be there for the next few yrs also. I also hope Kampman can recover from his injury again. He was a force on the field something our defense hasn't seen in a while. Jags certainly on the rise.
Man, I'd be happy if we could just get those damn turnovers cut in half.
^^yeah that was a huge problem this year. We racked up most of them in the beginning of the seasson though. The most reason were sundays. The san diego and cleveland game was the worst. But thats says alot about his team to be 8-6 as much as the ball gets turned over. I think that is amazing everyone. They always rebound.
Quote from: KenFSU on December 21, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
INCREDIBLE season for the Jaguars and for the city of Jacksonville.
Zero blackouts.
A new naming-rights deal for the stadium.
Massive Jag pride througout the city.
And a team that completed surpassed expectations.
Nowhere to go but up from here.
That's for sure. 7-9 with a soft schedule vs. 8-6 with a difficult one. Huge difference on field.
Quote from: Shwaz on December 21, 2010, 02:46:13 PM
The D-line is playing really well. Hopefully both Kampman & D'Anthony Smith heal up well during the offseason and make it even better. Cox & Mathis have struggled but they're not the dregs of the league. The LB's are in good shape too - we could maybe use some more speed at the position to cover the tight-ends that have seemed to give us trouble all year. The safety positions are in desperate need at both spots. Considine plays well in nickel & dime, Courtney Greene plays the run pretty solid... now we need a ball hawk type of guy that can cover & close.
2 more drafts and we'll be a dominant force for the years to come.
LB could be an issue this offseason since Morrison and Durant are free agents. Daryl's a stalwart of course, and Allen is a good utility man to have, but I could see us targeting LBs in free agency and the draft. For one reason or another, I do not think we will keep both Morrison and Durant.
I am still hoping Don Carey emerges as that ball hawk guy; he has the athleticism to do it but obviously is still learning the position. I'm also biased because he is from my area.
Driving down for Va Beach for the game for what should be the last time. Missed out on the Broncos, Titans, Texans, and Browns games because that drive sucks, but saw the other ones, and I have to finish out the home season the right way: AT THE BANK. This has been a fantastic season by all my accounts. Screw Cowher, Gruden, and whoever else; Gamblin' Jack is my guy.
Representing Section 122 for the next three years. Next year we sweep the Colts. Write it down.
Kells, why did I forget you are in Va Beach? I'm in Grafton.
Quote from: subro on December 20, 2010, 04:02:48 PM
It also doesn’t help that the Jags let the worst rushing team in the league run the ball 24 times for 155 yards including a TD.
and with a 2nd/3rd string running back!
Remember who the QB was. Any running back will be successful when you fear the pass.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 21, 2010, 04:27:37 PM
Remember who the QB was. Any running back will be successful when you fear the pass.
Both of the big Brown runs were "element of surprise" plays, not "Colts outmuscling the Jaguars at will" plays.
Same as when Tony Nathan or Woody Bennett would break a long run for the early-years Marino Dolphins. The '84 Dolphins--the year Marino set the passing yardage record--averaged something like 4.5 yards per carry but had no ability to line up and run straight at you.
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on December 21, 2010, 04:08:32 PM
Kells, why did I forget you are in Va Beach? I'm in Grafton.
Because the last time it came up was in the preseason and that was forever ago. I don't know where Grafton is, but I think it's on the other side of the HRBT, yes? The offer still stands for hitting a BWW or something. There's still the Houston game ;D
Hey, let's go 10-6 just for kicks and say we sold out every game, and we had a winning record. If we tie the colts in wins, we split the season and we will have shown progress over last year. Showing progress is all we can do at this stage, we need so many things on D, its not funny, but to be 10-6 with the guys we have playing now, is huge!
Avoiding blackouts is not the same as selling out. Jags need to sell a lot more club seats and suites next year to remain financially viable.
^^^I was speaking of selling out enough to lift black outs. I think we all know what a true sell out is. Lets just focus on the postive now and not talk about next year.
Functionally, I think the money from the EverBank and Florida Blue deal just about covers half of the lost revenues from the club seats unsold this year.
Still, the revenue increase over last year is significant, and as Vic says, the arrow is pointing up.
Quote from: kells904 on December 21, 2010, 04:50:15 PM
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on December 21, 2010, 04:08:32 PM
Kells, why did I forget you are in Va Beach? I'm in Grafton.
Because the last time it came up was in the preseason and that was forever ago. I don't know where Grafton is, but I think it's on the other side of the HRBT, yes? The offer still stands for hitting a BWW or something. There's still the Houston game ;D
I just sent you a message about getting together for this and I hope it went through, but in case it didn't, I am on the other side of the HRBT but would be glad to get together to watch the Houston game at a place that's convenient for you (I don't mind crossing the water at all).
Ok. Totallyyyyy off subject. I just read in the business journal that Jacksonville hotel room total is currently 26,993. The NFL only required Arlington (cowboys) to secure 20,000 to host the superbowl. What do yall think about that number?
Money. Do you know how many people can attend a SB in Cowboy Stadium? I bet they wont complain either.
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 22, 2010, 04:56:25 PM
Money. Do you know how many people can attend a SB in Cowboy Stadium? I bet they wont complain either.
Hush. Dont kill my dream of another Super Bowl in Jax. shhhhhh LOL ;D
^ Add to that the likelyhood the Dallas/Fort Worth area probably has 5 times that amount of rooms.
Quote from: Jason on December 23, 2010, 09:28:12 AM
^ Add to that the likelyhood the Dallas/Fort Worth area probably has 5 times that amount of rooms.
Im curious to know why the the super bowl events are not being held in Dallas. I mean its obvious why the game isnt (because the stadium is in Arlington). But I heard the SB events are being held in Ft Worth (if im not mistaken). That sort of strange? Was the city of Dallas just not ready? Im lost
There likely will be events held in Dallas and Fort Worth and everywhere in between (the same thing happened in Jacksonville). I think the main NFL sanctioned events will be held around the stadium though.
^^ok I read somewhere ALL events were going to be in Arlington and Ft Worth. But thats makes sense.
Holy egg laying in the last two games!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/12/26/week-16/4.html
Peter King MMQB
Point #2
Quoted. Typical Jacksonville.
nuff said.
I agree and people always complain about wanting respect. When the chips are down and their backs to the wall, Colts win Jags lose as they usually do. Hate to say that about my team, but that's how they roll!!
I thought it surprising that Tony Dungy on Sunday Night Football several weeks ago with the Jags in first place and the Colts reeling, said, "the Jaguars will not make it.....the Colts will rally and pass them for the AFC South".
The lady hasn't sung yet, but the organ is warming up.
They always say the Jags yeah but, well Sunday showed the yeah but.