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Title: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Lunican on November 22, 2010, 10:18:17 AM
Quote(http://www.flyjacksonville.com/images_web/jax-international-logo.png)

The branding campaign includes a new overall logo for the authority, new logos for each of its four airports, the renaming of three of the airports and new websites. JAA was created in 2001 by the Florida Legislature and has been using the same brand identity since then.

"The new 'umbrella style' logo concept integrates a more recognizable symbol of aviation while adding an element to represent each of the four airports in the system," JAA Executive Director/CEO Steve Grossman said. "The connection to aviation in the old logo was less obvious and didn't visually represent a four airport system icon."          

The goal of the rebranding effort is to create a consistent brand across the four airports owned and operated by the Authority; Jacksonville International Airport, Cecil Field, Craig Airport and Herlong Airport. The rebranding effort will also be used as an opportunity to further educate the public about the distinctive differences between the four airports and the regional impact of the Authority.

Three of the four airports will be renamed as a result of the rebranding effort. Cecil Field will become Cecil Airport and Herlong Airport will become Herlong Recreational Airport. Craig Airport will be renamed Jacksonville Executive Airport (JAXEX) since its location not only makes air travel more accessible for executives, but also makes the Jacksonville business community more accessible to the world.

http://www.flyjacksonville.com/
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
Ok Im feeling this! but I though Cecil Field was going to be a spaceport?? I mean thats what it says on their website. The logo is sexy, not too backwood. I had a dumb idea about connecting JIA & JPA cruise terminal via a people mover system. Does that exist aware in Florida? Where one can leave a plane walk to a platform and take a train to the cruise port? With Jax location compared to the rest of united states.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: fsujax on November 22, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
Is it just me or does that logo remind anyone else of the Dames Point Bridge?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: billy on November 22, 2010, 11:06:43 AM
I like it.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Ocklawaha on November 22, 2010, 11:08:25 AM
Yeah, right... IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT...

Like the DAME POINT BRIDGE is the Broward
or
JACKSONVILLE TERMINAL is susposed to be the JRTC...

CECIL FIELD isn't likely to be Cecil Airport in our lifetime.


OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: ChriswUfGator on November 22, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Like anybody cares what logo the JAA uses on its stationary?

Seriously, how much did we spend on this "rebranding" in the middle of a recession?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on November 22, 2010, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: fsujax on November 22, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
Is it just me or does that logo remind anyone else of the Dames Point Bridge?
It kinda looks like the old Eastern Airlines logo tipped sideways.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: CS Foltz on November 22, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
Just what we need.........more and more waste for nothing! Let JAA take up a collection to pay for any changes they wish to make! Bet this would die in a heart beat!
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 01:21:41 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 22, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Like anybody cares what logo the JAA uses on its stationary?

Seriously, how much did we spend on this "rebranding" in the middle of a recession?

Probably the same amount on
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Burn to Shine on November 22, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 22, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Like anybody cares what logo the JAA uses on its stationary?

Seriously, how much did we spend on this "rebranding" in the middle of a recession?

Yeah, unless it's going to include a statement that the TSA won't be hasseling peeps...I don't care. 

Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: reednavy on November 22, 2010, 02:01:29 PM
The only one that makes any sense is changing Craig's name to Jax Executive because that is it's main use.

JIA's website is an incredible improvement over what it was, even better than Nashville's http://www.flynashville.com/
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: reednavy on November 22, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: CS Foltz on November 22, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
Just what we need.........more and more waste for nothing! Let JAA take up a collection to pay for any changes they wish to make! Bet this would die in a heart beat!
How is rebranding and updating your image a waste?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: blizz01 on November 22, 2010, 03:23:29 PM
Ask GAP.  ;)
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Steve on November 22, 2010, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: reednavy on November 22, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: CS Foltz on November 22, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
Just what we need.........more and more waste for nothing! Let JAA take up a collection to pay for any changes they wish to make! Bet this would die in a heart beat!
How is rebranding and updating your image a waste?

I was previously of this mindset, then I married the Creative Director for LPS.  It's amazing, even in a B2B company like LPS or JAA, how much of a difference good branding can make.  If it helps us recruit business, I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Burn to Shine on November 22, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 22, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Like anybody cares what logo the JAA uses on its stationary?

Seriously, how much did we spend on this "rebranding" in the middle of a recession?

Yeah, unless it's going to include a statement that the TSA won't be hasseling peeps...I don't care.  



TSA is not hassling people, they are protect the airports, aircraft & travlers. Doesnt take a brainy guy to know that.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: reednavy on November 22, 2010, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: CS Foltz on November 22, 2010, 12:47:33 PM
Just what we need.........more and more waste for nothing! Let JAA take up a collection to pay for any changes they wish to make! Bet this would die in a heart beat!
How is rebranding and updating your image a waste?

Well you know growth & progress are the two worse things in america. Make sure you throw some Tea in the river.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: JeffreyS on November 22, 2010, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Burn to Shine on November 22, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 22, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Like anybody cares what logo the JAA uses on its stationary?

Seriously, how much did we spend on this "rebranding" in the middle of a recession?

Yeah, unless it's going to include a statement that the TSA won't be hasseling peeps...I don't care. 



TSA is not hassling people, they are protect the airports, aircraft & travlers. Doesnt take a brainy guy to know that.
+1
Call for change if you want but the people manning the lines do not make the rules and are not jerks. 
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: JeffreyS on November 22, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
Well I guess I should say they are not jerks for following the rules. I am sure some are jerks and some are nice.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 07:17:02 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on November 22, 2010, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Burn to Shine on November 22, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 22, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Like anybody cares what logo the JAA uses on its stationary?

Seriously, how much did we spend on this "rebranding" in the middle of a recession?

Yeah, unless it's going to include a statement that the TSA won't be hasseling peeps...I don't care. 



TSA is not hassling people, they are protect the airports, aircraft & travlers. Doesnt take a brainy guy to know that.
+1
Call for change if you want but the people manning the lines do not make the rules and are not jerks. 

TSA reps do as their bosses pay them to do. 1 + 1 = 2
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: I-10east on November 22, 2010, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
TSA is not hassling people, they are protect the airports, aircraft & travlers. Doesnt take a brainy guy to know that.

Exactly! Sometimes I wonder what situation these TSA critics rather be in, going through a frisk/body scan, or be on a hijacked airliner.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Dog Walker on November 23, 2010, 10:29:05 AM
Sigh.  More names to unlearn.  I'm still saying Independent Life Building, Gulf Life Towers and Gator Bowl.

Craig Field is going to be particularly hard since I practically grew up there, worked there and got my license there.   (Jacksonville Executive Airport, Jacksonville Executive Airport, Jacksonville Execu........)
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Ralph W on November 23, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
Do you think anyone thought of the acronym the new name forms??

Jacksonville Executive Airport

JEA, JEA, JEA

Easy to remember but.... ::)
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Dog Walker on November 23, 2010, 10:38:50 AM
Maybe they need to "rebrand" JEA to the Jacksonville Utilities Authority since they do it all now.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: cityimrov on November 23, 2010, 11:04:26 AM
Why all the complaints here?  The only major thing I see here to complain about is Craig's but I don't understand what the rest of the complaints are about.  

I thought this forum was about making Jacksonville a better city for the 21st century?  That's not going to happen unless you have change.  Am I visiting the wrong forums?

Change includes marketing, which is standard for any successful company out there.  
http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/coke_pepsi_chart_revised.jpg
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: simms3 on November 23, 2010, 12:46:12 PM
I am actually very pleased with the renaming of Craig.  Craig???  Are you serious?  Executive in the title already explains the purpose and role of the airport.  Having Recreational in Herlong's name delineates that one as well.  Executive sounds more progressive and inline with what other corporate air parks have as their names.

And a new logo is always fresh and does wonders to a company's image (provided they don't screw up the logo).  A new logo is almost like presenting a new company, which gets people talking and brings about visibility.  I also happen to like the new logo.  It's not very stuffy/professional looking, but it brings attention and has good use of shapes/colors.  (I am actually glad it's not a pure blue or one color logo)
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: tufsu1 on November 23, 2010, 01:09:37 PM
Quote from: stephendare on November 23, 2010, 11:14:59 AM

Whose complaining? (besides CSFOltz--a given anytime money is spent)  Everyone likes it.

I believe chriswufgator complained as well
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: reednavy on November 23, 2010, 01:37:46 PM
The only one that should stay the same in Cecil Field, which rolls off the tongue better than Cecil Airport.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: CS Foltz on November 23, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Gentlemen............a cowpie called a silk purse is still a cow pie! I don't have a problem with anyone renaming anything, but have to point out JIA is a City function..........paid for by the City.....is it not? Craig Airport is a private facility and just changing a name will not extend the runways! This looks like another end run around what was promised at Craig and nothing else! Jacksonville International Airport is just a name.....no customs facility there for outside arrivals from outside of the US! City is $58 Million Dollars in the hole, Metropolitan Park, Riverwalk upgrade and now renaming these spots............maybe someone can tell me just how the heck we are suppposed to pay for this along with everything else? We keep spending and we keep getting deeper, property taxes have been raised for the past two years, thanks Johnny, and the value is still descending and you guys wonder why I keep saying "WTF"?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: cline on November 23, 2010, 02:06:49 PM
QuoteCraig Airport is a private facility

Actually, no.  Criag Airport is under JAA (as is JIA, Herlong and Cecil).  JAA leases space at Criag to the operators.  JAA generates its own revenues.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: RiversideLoki on November 23, 2010, 02:15:27 PM
That JAX logo is a typographical nightmare. I don't even think that's helvetica... I think it's Arial.

Also that little round half airplane thing (and the whole web site for that matter) looks like it was made with someone's feet.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: reednavy on November 23, 2010, 02:21:39 PM
Quote from: CS Foltz on November 23, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Jacksonville International Airport is just a name.....no customs facility there for outside arrivals from outside of the US!
yeah, wrong once again.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: cityimrov on November 23, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: CS Foltz on November 23, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Gentlemen............a cowpie called a silk purse is still a cow pie! I don't have a problem with anyone renaming anything, but have to point out JIA is a City function..........paid for by the City.....is it not? Craig Airport is a private facility and just changing a name will not extend the runways! This looks like another end run around what was promised at Craig and nothing else! Jacksonville International Airport is just a name.....no customs facility there for outside arrivals from outside of the US! City is $58 Million Dollars in the hole, Metropolitan Park, Riverwalk upgrade and now renaming these spots............maybe someone can tell me just how the heck we are suppposed to pay for this along with everything else? We keep spending and we keep getting deeper, property taxes have been raised for the past two years, thanks Johnny, and the value is still descending and you guys wonder why I keep saying "WTF"?

JAA is doing alright from what this says: http://www.jaa.aero/Aboutus/Financials.aspx
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 23, 2010, 04:33:01 PM
Quote from: I-10east on November 22, 2010, 10:27:34 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on November 22, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
TSA is not hassling people, they are protect the airports, aircraft & travlers. Doesnt take a brainy guy to know that.

Exactly! Sometimes I wonder what situation these TSA critics rather be in, going through a frisk/body scan, or be on a hijacked airliner.

We all are just numbers in the grand scheme I think, people should not take bein checked PERSONALLY, its a matter of business & security, nothing personal.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 23, 2010, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on November 23, 2010, 10:38:50 AM
Maybe they need to "rebrand" JEA to the Jacksonville Utilities Authority since they do it all now.

Interesting concept.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: reednavy on November 23, 2010, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: cityimrov on November 23, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
JAA is doing alright from what this says: http://www.jaa.aero/Aboutus/Financials.aspx
Isn't JAA a completely separate intentity from city hall anyways?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 23, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
The logo is better than Atlanta"s thats for sure. Has that bluish teal going on. Depending on how one looks at it.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Coolyfett on November 23, 2010, 10:00:59 PM
Quote from: cityimrov on November 23, 2010, 11:04:26 AM
Why all the complaints here?  The only major thing I see here to complain about is Craig's but I don't understand what the rest of the complaints are about. 

I thought this forum was about making Jacksonville a better city for the 21st century?  That's not going to happen unless you have change.  Am I visiting the wrong forums?

Change includes marketing, which is standard for any successful company out there. 
http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/coke_pepsi_chart_revised.jpg

Your in the right forum, but there is a lot of politcal in fighting between a few members. Everyone is for progress in Jax until politics comes up, that when they start fighting in here. The logo IS sexy though.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: Overstreet on November 24, 2010, 04:55:39 AM
Quote from: Dog Walker on November 23, 2010, 10:29:05 AM
Sigh.  More names to unlearn.  I'm still saying Independent Life Building, Gulf Life Towers and Gator Bowl.

Craig Field is going to be particularly hard since I practically grew up there, worked there and got my license there.   (Jacksonville Executive Airport, Jacksonville Executive Airport, Jacksonville Execu........)

If they are branding to define, shouldn't Craig be Jacksonville Executive Army National Guard Airport?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Airports to be Renamed
Post by: YellowBluffRoad on January 18, 2011, 09:31:36 PM
Don't print the stationery yet! Craig Airport will keep Craig (a Jacksonville Native who died at Pearl Harbor) in the  airport name, per Jacksonville.com.

QuoteIt will most likely be changed to either Jacksonville Executive at Craig Airport or Jacksonville/Craig Executive Airport, Grossman said.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400669/larry-hannan/2011-01-18/jaa-put-craig-back-arlington-airports-name (http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400669/larry-hannan/2011-01-18/jaa-put-craig-back-arlington-airports-name)

I personally prefer the latter, but glad to see them keep Craig's name and clarify the airport's function by adding "Executive".