Jags V/S Titans - Monday Night Football in Jacksonville

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2010, 05:26:47 PM

Two Teams that will be running very similar offenses.  Which Headline do you Expect on Tuesday?

First NFL Game Ever without a Passing Attempt
Two QBs - Two-Hundred Yds Rushing
MJD & CJ - How 1 + 1 = 600 yds Rushing
JDR & Jeff Fisher decide Outcome of Last Nights Game with a Fistfight on the 50 Yard Line
Cortland Finnegan Quits NFL for MMA
Maybe Marcedes Should Join MMA after Knocking Finnegan Out of the Game after Interception
A River (city) Runs Through It
Jags Win, Jags Win: 2-0
Jaguars = #1 in AFC South

duvaldude08

Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 17, 2010, 12:03:48 PM
My issue with the local advertising and marketing of Jags tix is that it seems to stop as soon as the "Blackout has been lifted" benchmark has been reached.  Local news both TV and radio have refered to the Monday night game as sold out when in fact 10 - 15k tickets are still available.

BridgeToll,

I noticed that therm "sold out" is used by the NFL and all media. They should just say the black out has been lifted. Saying a team sold out and they technially didnt, is kinda mis leading.
Jaguars 2.0

Steve

Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on October 15, 2010, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 15, 2010, 04:49:21 PM


There are actually only two times in our history that were true "sellouts".  In 2004 against Pittsburgh (that was when the capacity was 76,877 - no covers - , and anyone who was at that game remembers the 20,000 steelers fans), and in 2007 against the Colts, at the current capacity of 67,164.

Every other game in our history, there were at least a couple of seats not sold.

According to the 2006 tickets distributed figures, I think 5 of the 8 home games that year were true sellouts, with 67,164 listed as tickets distributed.  I think it was the Cowboys, Steelers, Colts, Giants, and Patriots.

That quote is from Vic Ketchman, the Senior Editor of Jaguars.com

Steve

Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 17, 2010, 12:03:48 PM
My issue with the local advertising and marketing of Jags tix is that it seems to stop as soon as the "Blackout has been lifted" benchmark has been reached.  Local news both TV and radio have refered to the Monday night game as sold out when in fact 10 - 15k tickets are still available.

Totally agree, but there really aren't that many tickets available.  The fuel gauge just shows general bowl tickets.  Before the year started, Wayne Waver was quoted as saying that 9K of the 11K club seats were sold via season tickets.  My guess is tickets distributed for this game will be in the 64-65 range, with capacity of 67.

Now, with regard to your original point of the post, Part of me thinks that is why they wait until the last second to say "blackout lifted".  I know they needed to get the tickets sold, but once they announce that, ticket sales grind to a halt.

02roadking

Ahhh yes! Game day is here. A little tailgating at Marks during happy hour. A leisurly stroll down Bay to Everbank. Hopefully a great game for the Jags, the maybe a little celebratory beverage at Dos Gatos after. I love game day!
Springfield since 1998

fieldafm

YES.  Game Day!!!!!!!

About to wrap up some business, head on down to CHP for lunch, and then set up tailgating HQ.  Roadking, if we win, first drink at DG is on me.  Black shorts, black converse, teal 'we are one' tshirt, with white long sleeve shirt underneath.

Here is all the info you need for those heading to the game

http://downtownjacksonville.org/newsroom/365/?ct=phb

GO JAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


copperfiend

Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 17, 2010, 12:03:48 PM
My issue with the local advertising and marketing of Jags tix is that it seems to stop as soon as the "Blackout has been lifted" benchmark has been reached.  Local news both TV and radio have refered to the Monday night game as sold out when in fact 10 - 15k tickets are still available.

There is no way that 10-15k tickets are available. Maybe a few thousand club seats at the most.

fsujax


BridgeTroll

Quote from: copperfiend on October 18, 2010, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 17, 2010, 12:03:48 PM
My issue with the local advertising and marketing of Jags tix is that it seems to stop as soon as the "Blackout has been lifted" benchmark has been reached.  Local news both TV and radio have refered to the Monday night game as sold out when in fact 10 - 15k tickets are still available.

There is no way that 10-15k tickets are available. Maybe a few thousand club seats at the most.

Is there a way to find out?  Just going by the numbers available... 51k to avoid a blackout out of a total of 67k for a sellout.  We hit the 51k mark Friday... did we suddenly sell the remaining 15k in three days for the sellout?  Go Jags!
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

copperfiend

The club seats, terrace suites and other "premium" seating don't count towards the blackout total. So you can add all of those that were sold to the 51k figure.

BridgeTroll

Do you know what those numbers are?  I have been looking online and these figures seem to be a closely guarded secret... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Here we go... finally found something...

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=43550

QuoteBlackout. A dirty word in Jacksonville.

It’s an economic necessity, says the National Football League. It’s a misuse of public trust, say the fans who can’t attend Jacksonville Jaguar games, either because of personal circumstances, lack of funds of just plain cheapness.

So, what triggers a blackout, the dreaded time when the Jags’ game is declared off local television because not enough tickets were sold? And how can the team say it’s blacked out because not enough seats were sold, and then announce over 60,000 “tickets distributed”?

It’s all apples and oranges.

The apple, in this case, is the total capacity of Alltel Stadium, which in the Jags’ setup is 76,877 minus the seats covered this year, 9,713. (The seats were covered to reduce the number needed to avoid a blackout.)

Thus, the capacity: 67,164.

Forget that number.

“You’re confusing the total seats with the blackout rule,” said Scott Loft, the team’s executive director of ticket sales and marketing. “You can almost sell out and still black out.”

Go back to the capacity, and break it down by category of seats:

Club seats: 11,228.

Luxury Suites: 1,694.

Terrace: 780.

General Bowl: 53,422.


(Those of you with a calculator will see that this doesn’t quite total 67,164. The 40 missing seats are somewhere in the mix.)

Now we get to the oranges.

“Only consider one number: the number of general bowl seats,” said Loft, doing his best to uncomplicate a complicated process. “Forget 67,164. Forget the number of covered seats. Forget the luxury seats. The number to work with is the number of General Bowl seats.”

53,422.

“That’s the number that the NFL uses to determine whether the game is on TV or not,” said Loft. The Jaguars have to sell about 98 percent of the total number of General Bowl seats to avoid a blackout. “They allow a little leeway, 2 percent or so for handicapped people, their escorts, players’ complimentary tickets and the seats we give to the USO.”

The team originally said the blackout number was a bit over 49,000. The National Football League came during the summer and audited the seats and upped it.

The blackout number: 50,500.

“That’s 50,500 of the 53,422,” emphasized Loft. “That’s not 50,500 of 67,164, which would be a sellout.”

OK, you can sell 64,000 of the 67,164 tickets and still be blacked out?

“Yes, said Loft, “if those unsold seats were in the General Bowl.”

Why wouldn’t they base the blackout on the total number of seats rather than just a portion of the stadium?

That answer goes back to the NFL and it’s a league-wide rule â€" not every team has luxury seats.

Now, the bottom line: How to do we stand on blackouts now?

“On an average, we’re about 3,000 short,” said Loft. “For Seattle (the first game,) about 1,900.”
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Uh Duh

I see Teal everywhere.  Da Duval is ready.  Gameday, tailgating, Monday Night Football is here.  The weather is beautiful.  Go Jaguars!

Coolyfett

Yall have a couple cold ones for me!! Gonna be many callouts tommorow.
Mike Hogan Destruction Eruption!

BridgeTroll

Just took a trip around the stadium... the tailgaiting has begun! :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

copperfiend