Q'uran Burning By Gainesville Nutcase.

[JeffreyS]

By the way the Reverend was allowed to express himself no one censored him.  The opposition were just allowed to express the opposite views also.

[RainDoggie]

Two despicable acts: burning of Korans and building of a mosque at the site of a mass murder commited in the name of islam.  The difference?  Those on the left (including many here) were quick to dawn their constitutional rights hats and jump to the defense of those initiating the mosque construction in the name of "freedom of religion", and "this is America".  Where are you in defense of this reverend's rights? No where to be seen as is expected from the left.  No consistency, as usual.  Instead, you will demonize him and his church and call them "nut jobs". Why?  Because appeasement and political correctness runs amok.   I fully expect the left leaning (falling over) media to be investigating the reverend's past to try to dig up any dirt they can find. Watch the headlines in the next few days for stories about his past.   In no way do i condone burning Korans, but I understand his point. He, like many of us are tired of the countless kidnappings, beheadings, flag burnings, etc that are covered as "no big deal" by journalists.  This book burning would have no effect in Afghanistan what so ever.  American troops walking the streets of kabul is more than enough justification (in their minds) to kill our troops.   On the other hand, i see no real benefit to burning Korans.  But go ahead and continue to kiss the rearends of Islamist and other enemies of America.  See where it gets you.

There is a big difference between allowing American citizens to peacefully practice their religion and wanting to hold a 15th-century style book-burning.  I'm not sure why that is so hard to understand.  Regardless, no one is stopping Rev Jones from holding his book burning.  But it's not unreasonable to ask him to reconsider doing something that is clearly intended to offend hundreds of millions of people all over the world and makes our country look like an intolerant backwater.  In contrast, the Islamic community center in lower Manhattan (it's not a mosque and it's not at Ground Zero) is not being built with the intention of offending people.  In fact, the purpose is to be a sort of outreach to other faiths for promoting understanding and cooperation.  I can't figure out why people find that so threatening.

Also, Muslims are not our enemy.  Radical, fundamentalist, homicidal death-cultists who pervert the teachings of Islam as a way to manipulate the ignorant into doing stupid things are our enemy.  Please do not confuse the two.

[JC]

Two despicable acts: burning of Korans and building of a mosque at the site of a mass murder commited in the name of islam.  The difference?  Those on the left (including many here) were quick to dawn their constitutional rights hats and jump to the defense of those initiating the mosque construction in the name of "freedom of religion", and "this is America".  Where are you in defense of this reverend's rights? No where to be seen as is expected from the left.  No consistency, as usual.  Instead, you will demonize him and his church and call them "nut jobs". Why?  Because appeasement and political correctness runs amok.   I fully expect the left leaning (falling over) media to be investigating the reverend's past to try to dig up any dirt they can find. Watch the headlines in the next few days for stories about his past.   In no way do i condone burning Korans, but I understand his point. He, like many of us are tired of the countless kidnappings, beheadings, flag burnings, etc that are covered as "no big deal" by journalists.  This book burning would have no effect in Afghanistan what so ever.  American troops walking the streets of kabul is more than enough justification (in their minds) to kill our troops.   On the other hand, i see no real benefit to burning Korans.  But go ahead and continue to kiss the rearends of Islamist and other enemies of America.  See where it gets you.

Buddy, seriously?  The Obama administration has taken a stance on the side of freedom of speech and not said that the rev. 'cant' but it has said that this would be a recruitment bonanza for AQ(which is incidentally true!).  I have not said he does not have the right to burn the book, on the contrary, I think that he should do as he chooses but know that he is a moron because this selfish act and just he mere threat will cost some soldier his/her life.  I think maybe you need to learn how to read!

[finehoe]

building of a mosque at the site of a mass murder commited in the name of islam.  

This is a bald-face lie.  No mosque is proposed to be built on the site of ground zero.

[ChriswUfGator]

Well I certainly hope Terry Jones and his religious nutjobs are happy, there was an article in the New York Times today and some more stuff online, apparently this became quite a big deal in Afghanistan. There were riots and demonstrations, and apparently at least 2 people were killed. Wonderful. Like the US wasn't unpopular enough already.

[buckethead]

Well I certainly hope Terry Jones and his religious nutjobs are happy, there was an article in the New York Times today and some more stuff online, apparently this became quite a big deal in Afghanistan. There were riots and demonstrations, and apparently at least 2 people were killed. Wonderful. Like the US wasn't unpopular enough already.

Reverend gassbag's book burning threat was no more than an act of disrespect. He is hardly to blame for people getting killed overseas.

If you threaten to burn a bible and I pledge to kill someone if you do, is it your fault that I killed a person?

[civil42806]

Well I certainly hope Terry Jones and his religious nutjobs are happy, there was an article in the New York Times today and some more stuff online, apparently this became quite a big deal in Afghanistan. There were riots and demonstrations, and apparently at least 2 people were killed. Wonderful. Like the US wasn't unpopular enough already.

Reverend gassbag's book burning threat was no more than an act of disrespect. He is hardly to blame for people getting killed overseas.

If you threaten to burn a bible and I pledge to kill someone if you do, is it your fault that I killed a person?

Hey if they cut your head off remember its all your fault! Fortunately they aren't mormons so its okay.  Quite frankly its not new that they don't like us.  christopher hitchens was right if you want to live your life according to outrage boy standards, thats up to you.  But you'll never make them happy short of submitting.

http://snappedshot.com/archives/976-Islamic-Rage-Boy-Parody-Roundup.html

[buckethead]

My point is; while it's uncouth of a person of one religion to openly defile the religious icons of another religion, the violence enacted by the other religion is the fault/responsibility of the ones committing the violence.

[civil42806]

My point is; while it's uncouth of a person of one religion to openly defile the religious icons of another religion, the violence enacted by the other religion is the fault/responsibility of the ones committing the violence.

That would seem to go without  saying buckethead but I'm not so sure thats true here

[JC]

Well I certainly hope Terry Jones and his religious nutjobs are happy, there was an article in the New York Times today and some more stuff online, apparently this became quite a big deal in Afghanistan. There were riots and demonstrations, and apparently at least 2 people were killed. Wonderful. Like the US wasn't unpopular enough already.

Reverend gassbag's book burning threat was no more than an act of disrespect. He is hardly to blame for people getting killed overseas.

If you threaten to burn a bible and I pledge to kill someone if you do, is it your fault that I killed a person?

So we should not be concerned with the ramifications of our actions?  I am not sure I am following your logic here.

[civil42806]

Well I certainly hope Terry Jones and his religious nutjobs are happy, there was an article in the New York Times today and some more stuff online, apparently this became quite a big deal in Afghanistan. There were riots and demonstrations, and apparently at least 2 people were killed. Wonderful. Like the US wasn't unpopular enough already.

Reverend gassbag's book burning threat was no more than an act of disrespect. He is hardly to blame for people getting killed overseas.

If you threaten to burn a bible and I pledge to kill someone if you do, is it your fault that I killed a person?

So we should not be concerned with the ramifications of our actions?  I am not sure I am following your logic here.

Thats a good dhimmi

[RainDoggie]

I think the media might be overblowing this a little bit (shock! right?).  There's really not very much evidence that these people were totally cool with America until this whole Koran-burning mess started and then that's what caused them to start killing people.  My guess is that they see it as a good excuse but really any excuse will do.

[buckethead]

Well I certainly hope Terry Jones and his religious nutjobs are happy, there was an article in the New York Times today and some more stuff online, apparently this became quite a big deal in Afghanistan. There were riots and demonstrations, and apparently at least 2 people were killed. Wonderful. Like the US wasn't unpopular enough already.

Reverend gassbag's book burning threat was no more than an act of disrespect. He is hardly to blame for people getting killed overseas.

If you threaten to burn a bible and I pledge to kill someone if you do, is it your fault that I killed a person?

So we should not be concerned with the ramifications of our actions?  I am not sure I am following your logic here.

Speaking of logic, your response seems to be missing any. Looking at my previous post, I see no claim indicating that anyone should not consider the ramifications of ones actions.

Ramifications of book burning: It could piss people off. If I get pissed off about something you do, whose responsibility/fault is it?

Ramifications of killing people: People die. If I kill someone and blame it on the fact that I was pissed about something you did, whose responsibility is that?

Ramifications of multi-quoting: It builds a quote pyramid. If I continue multi-quoting until I have a post over 3 feet long, whose fault is that?

[BridgeTroll]

  Thanks Civil!  I always learn new things here!

Thats a good dhimmi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

A dhimmi (Arabic: ذمي‎ [ˈðɪmːiː]), (collectively أهل الذمة ahl al-dhimmah, "the people of the dhimma or people of the contract") is a non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia law. The dhimma is a theoretical contract based on a widely held Islamic doctrine granting special status to Jewish, Christian, and other non-Muslim subjects. Dhimma provides rights of residence in return for taxes.[1] Dhimmi have fewer legal and social rights than Muslims, but more rights than other non-Muslims.[2] They are excluded from the specifically Muslim duties, and otherwise equal under the laws of property, contract and obligation.[3]

[BridgeTroll]

  Jeez Stephen... try some decaf.   I was simply unaware of the what a dhimmi was... I looked it up and posted it.