Baptist Medical Center plans $200 million tower

Started by thelakelander, June 07, 2010, 04:01:48 PM

stjr

Quote from: stephendare on June 09, 2010, 10:40:41 PM
STJR.  Other than the experience that you described at the Jazz Festival, what mass transit do you use?  What do you use it for and where do you travel from and to?

Stephen, are you OK?  You asked this same question on the streetcar thread.  What's up with you?

FYI, Lake brought up the Skyway on this thread about BMC's new tower:  Post # 11.  I suggest you apply your streetcar thread admonishment to him. 
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

reednavy

Quote from: stjr on June 09, 2010, 11:35:46 PM

Stephen, are you OK?  You asked this same question on the streetcar thread.  What's up with you?

FYI, Lake brought up the Skyway on this thread about BMC's new tower:  Post # 11.  I suggest you apply your streetcar thread admonishment to him.

It is a perfectly good, simple question.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

stjr

Quote from: reednavy on June 09, 2010, 11:38:23 PM
It is a perfectly good, simple question.

Reed, see the streetcar thread for my answer.  Now, tell me your answer to the same question.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

reednavy

Quote from: stjr on June 09, 2010, 11:43:24 PM

Reed, see the streetcar thread for my answer.  Now, tell me your answer to the same question.

Fine, I have not used any public transit here, at all. When downtown, I don't use the Skyway because I prefer to walk on foot, even if that means crossing the Main St Bridge.

I use it plenty when in Miami, and can get from downtown Miami to Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood Int'l for under $10.

I have used it in Chicago, Atlanta, Biloxi, and other cities when needed.

Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

stjr

Quote from: reednavy on June 09, 2010, 11:55:29 PM
When downtown, I don't use the Skyway because I prefer to walk on foot, even if that means crossing the Main St Bridge.
Reed, fair enough.  Your point about walking versus taking the Skyway is something I have noted as well.  Why ride when you can walk many connections almost as easily and quickly?
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

thelakelander

Quote from: stjr on June 09, 2010, 11:35:46 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 09, 2010, 10:40:41 PM
STJR.  Other than the experience that you described at the Jazz Festival, what mass transit do you use?  What do you use it for and where do you travel from and to?

Stephen, are you OK?  You asked this same question on the streetcar thread.  What's up with you?

FYI, Lake brought up the Skyway on this thread about BMC's new tower:  Post # 11.  I suggest you apply your streetcar thread admonishment to him.


My comment was directly related to this project.  A part of the project calls for Baptist employees to use the Kings Avenue garage.  However, instead of using the skyway as the connection piece, a duplicate shuttle service will be provided.  Common sense just tells me that if I have a $184 million transit system between these two points, it would be in my best interest to attempt to get commuters on it as opposed to further isolating it.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Overstreet

Using the skyway to get to work at BMC?  After reading the skyway adventures when leaving the Jazz Festival I'm surprised anyone would think to ride it to work. 

Most of the people that will be parking there have fixed schedules and will need to be at work on time.  The Baptist shuttle runs more often and delivers them on time right where they need to be rain or shine.

thelakelander

Why do things have to stay the same? I would assume after spending $184 million, service could be modified to serve actual riders.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

buckethead

Quote from: stjr on June 10, 2010, 12:03:49 AM
Quote from: reednavy on June 09, 2010, 11:55:29 PM
When downtown, I don't use the Skyway because I prefer to walk on foot, even if that means crossing the Main St Bridge.
Reed, fair enough.  Your point about walking versus taking the Skyway is something I have noted as well.  Why ride when you can walk many connections almost as easily and quickly?
Not to derail the thread, but I agree here. Having lived at the Strand, I found it just as easy and roughly as fast to walk the riverwalk, over the main street bridge, and to the landing as to use the skyway. When I did use it, I did so because of the novelty (Excepting for trips to the library). This is the problem with the Skyway. It is too short to effectively entice ridership. This does not need to be the case, however. If I still lived at the strand, a skyway trip into San Marco, Five Points, or the Stadium/Arena would be much more inviting. (My narrow, egocentric overview) My daughters love going on the skyway. (So do I...)

As for how the skyway would work in conjunction with a walkway to baptist, I'm not sure I have grasped the overview, but I could certainly envision driving in from suburbia, parking at a garage, then utilizing the skyway and a covered walkway provided the garage had adequate access to my path home... i.e. I95/I10/US1.

Captain Zissou

QuoteUsing the skyway to get to work at BMC?  After reading the skyway adventures when leaving the Jazz Festival I'm surprised anyone would think to ride it to work.

Really?  You're going to take one story about a bad experience that was during an extremely rare occasion and use that to determine your opinions on the skyway?  Stephen spent a month riding buses to formulate his opinions, this was one time, that had nothing to do with a daily work commute.  I have never had a bad experience with the skyway, while having used it DOZENS of times.  It upsets me that you would so quickly dismiss the skyway after one negative comment. 

stjr

Quote from: Captain Zissou on June 10, 2010, 09:45:18 AM
Really?  You're going to take one story about a bad experience that was during an extremely rare occasion and use that to determine your opinions on the skyway?  Stephen spent a month riding buses to formulate his opinions, this was one time, that had nothing to do with a daily work commute.  I have never had a bad experience with the skyway, while having used it DOZENS of times.  It upsets me that you would so quickly dismiss the skyway after one negative comment. 

Actually, Captain, many posters on MJ have shared stories of operational issues with the Skyway.  Even some of its proponents readily admit to many of the observations I made.  I suggest the real disagreement rests, not with if the issues exist presently, but whether they can be reliably fixed, at what costs vs. benefits, and whether those issues should be tackled at all if the Skyway's future is limited and/or endangered.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

stjr

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Quote from: thelakelander on June 10, 2010, 06:06:35 AM
My comment was directly related to this project.

Exactly, Lake, just as most of my Skyway posts relate to the threads they are embedded in, either due to subject matter or another poster interjecting the subject.  I just wanted to point out Stephen's obvious double standard for pontificating on what constitutes appropriate postings.  I can only conclude the criteria is whether one agrees with his position or not.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!