New Int'l airport opens in Panama City Beach

Started by reednavy, May 22, 2010, 11:56:28 PM

Ocklawaha

Yes and no y'all. We HAVE had international flights but nothing to crow about... A non-stop to Canada and I believe a couple of islands off the Florida Coast. Hardly London, Paris, Rome, Moscow, Tokyo, Bogota, etc...

Airports can't just become international with a schedule and a name change. "INTERNATIONAL" is a Federal designation reserved for ports of entry that HAVE a US Customs office, or ready access to US Customs and/or Border Patrol.  It's the same in other countries, in Colombia the airport has D.A.S. offices (Which roughly translates "Department of Administrative Security") Mexico, Panama, all the same.

It is often believed that the name is some magic that indicates a "super airport" but that is completely false. All through Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California, there are litterally crop duster airports, with dirt runways and 3 planes... no lights... no terminal to speak of... maybe a hanger and an office only, with the words "DATELAND INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT" over the door. Why? Because a quick phone call to Yuma, get's Customs or Border Patrol out to clear your aircraft on your way from Baja to Denver in your friends Piper-Cub.

What we need to get into orbit is a POLITICAL and MARKETING (CofC) program to set up a cluster of connecting flights. IE: We work with our carriers to get 5 flights out of Jax within a 15 minute time span, for example: Charlotte, Memphis, Birmingham, Norfolk and Tallahassee.  Once we establish 2 clusters of such flights, the more the better, we then market ourselves to a discount international carrier such as Panama's COPA, or one of the EU carriers. With these 5 flights in, twice daily, in the same 30 minutes, it creates a gateway whereby we are the stop for Norfolk-JAX-Panama City-Brasilia, or Birmingham-JAX-Panama City-Mexico City, or even Tallahassee-JAX-Madrid.

THIS IS how the game is played.



OCKLAWAHA

tufsu1

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Quote from: reednavy on May 24, 2010, 09:36:08 AM
I'm wondering when they'll have a new website up and running. As of this morning, they still have the old Panama City-Bay Co. Int'l website up and no site pertaining to the NW FL Beaches Int'l outside of the construction update page.

Since this is such a major project and critical development, they should've had the new website up and running no later than Saturday for the public grand opening.

Here are the websites for the new airport

http://newpcairport.com/

http://www.iflybeaches.com/

btw...I worked on the planning and approvals for this project from 2001 - 2004....and we're now involved with reuse of the existing airport site....will likely be the largest redevelopment opportunity in Florida since Baldwin Park (Orlando Naval Training Center).

reednavy

whoa, when the hell did their new website come on line? I have Googled and such it to death!
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

Mattius92

wow, a flight every hour, that is pretty good for an airport that has been open for only like 72 hours.

I like their new website.
SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

Mattius92

Heck, what is the largest sceduled airplane that lands at JIA, because the Panama City airport is better MD-88s and B737s. I know JIA gets 737s, not so sure about MD-88s.
SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

Cricket

Quote from: Mattius92 on May 24, 2010, 01:47:24 PM
Quote from: fsujax on May 24, 2010, 01:18:53 PM
If I am not mistaken, our airport has had international flights before.

And currently our Airport should be called Jacksonville Regional Airport. However I think any airport that can support International Air flight can have the international name. Since we have had international flights before we can be considered an international airport. The new Panama City airport has customs and etc. so it can support international flights too. So therefore it can have the international name.

Oh, I see ... JIA is not really an international airport, but it is okay to call it an international airport. Now I understand.
"If we bring not the good courage of minds covetous of truth, and truth only, prepared to hear all things, and decide upon all things, according to evidence, we should do more wisely to sit down contented in ignorance, than to bestir ourselves only to reap disappointment."

reednavy

Quote from: Mattius92 on May 24, 2010, 02:24:53 PM
Heck, what is the largest sceduled airplane that lands at JIA, because the Panama City airport is better MD-88s and B737s. I know JIA gets 737s, not so sure about MD-88s.
Some cross country flight from Delta, the type of which escapes me right now.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

Mattius92

It is an international airport, just currently without any international flights.

SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

Steve

767-300's.  Wide body, two aisle planes.  Delta uses them quite a bit.

They are actually just to Atlanta.  Even though it's a huge plane, they generally fill the thing.

BTW, the reason that Jacksonville is International is because the customs facilities do exist (they are below Concourse C.  They are used a couple times a month (my understanding) for international charter flights.

reednavy

Another thing to watch at that airport is how quickly other airlines will jump into the pool. I'd expect one or two announcement before the end of the year, with American, United, and Continental leading the pack.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

Steve

Other common planes:  757's (Delta, US Airways on occasion), 737's (Southwest, and others) 707's (Airtran), MD-88's (American and Delta), and a plethora of regional jets.

Mattius92

Quote from: Steve on May 24, 2010, 03:02:49 PM
767-300's.  Wide body, two aisle planes.  Delta uses them quite a bit.

They are actually just to Atlanta.  Even though it's a huge plane, they generally fill the thing.

BTW, the reason that Jacksonville is International is because the customs facilities do exist (they are below Concourse C.  They are used a couple times a month (my understanding) for international charter flights.

Yeah, well a B767 is the largest jet that used for domestic flights. The B777 and B747 are mainly used for international flights that typically require flying over the ocean.

Jacksonville rarely gets wide-body planes, I can say that.
SunRail, Florida's smart transit idea. :) (now up on the chopping block) :(

tufsu1

Quote from: reednavy on May 24, 2010, 02:13:51 PM
whoa, when the hell did their new website come on line? I have Googled and such it to death!

the newpcairport site has been for over a year

reednavy

Quote from: tufsu1 on May 24, 2010, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: reednavy on May 24, 2010, 02:13:51 PM
whoa, when the hell did their new website come on line? I have Googled and such it to death!

the newpcairport site has been for over a year
I know that one has, I've been using it for quite a while, I was refering to the actual airport website.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

Overstreet

St Joe donated the land for the airport. The former airport was across the bay and two blocked by city development and the bay.

St Joe will be relocating thier headquarters over to an area near this airport.