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THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH

Started by heights unknown, January 28, 2010, 09:21:47 AM

BridgeTroll

QuotePelosi?.......I'd hit it!

Argh.............. :-X :P
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

urbanlibertarian

Sed quis custodiet ipsos cutodes (Who watches the watchmen?)

JagFan07

Quote from: buckethead on January 29, 2010, 03:11:50 PM
It is truly a shame that no one will ever consider such. If only we had something like a tax on consumption being sponsored in Congress...

If only we had some sort of a grass roots campaign supporting this mythic bill....Wow that would be something.
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mtraininjax

QuotePelosi?.......I'd hit it!

She is the lady in red, congresswoman style.
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JeffreyS

The President probably wishes he would have put his speech off a few days until the great news of the 4th quarter came out. 
Lenny Smash

buckethead

I would agree there, but it would not change my opinion of the speech in general.

I was recently charmed by a speech he offered on Health Care reform. A few weeks later Congress offered up a bill which mandated private citizens to puchase health insurance from private corporations or face fines, moving to imprisonment for failure to comply.

I remain cynical.

buckethead

Cynical concerning lofty speeches by eloquent politicians. I would support single payor sooner that the mandate Congress is trying to pull.

buckethead

Collusion is a criminal offense, except when allowed by Congress. Reform is needed, but not in the form of 100% guaranteed market share for private insurers.

I do want President Obama to be an effective, centrist leader but I'm just not seeing it.

buckethead

True, and I disagree with many Liberal positions. It is my right to think how I will, regardless whether other see me as misguided.

Actually I consider myself more "liberal" than President Obama:

Liberty:
•autonomy: immunity from arbitrary exercise of authority: political independence
•freedom of choice; "liberty of opinion"; "liberty of worship"; "liberty--perfect liberty--to think or feel or do just as one pleases"; "at liberty to choose whatever occupation one wishes"
•personal freedom from servitude or confinement or oppression

How do you feel about the current health care reform legislation?

buckethead

I don't see where the Republicans have had much input other than to obstruct the Democrats. Republicans desire the status quo to continue.

I must admit, I do not frequent Daily Kos so I might be missing something. ;)

(How many times does buckethead type the word "I" in a paragraph?)

I need to run for office.

NotNow

The current plan appears to have been crafted without any Rep input, in closed door sessions with the existing insurance players.  Hence the rising stock prices of those insurers.  I believe that is why the public is rejecting it.  I don't see any new love for the Republicans here, just a rejection of the way the Dems did this bill.  Obama lost a lot of credibility on this issue.  (Because of Pelosi and Ried's poor leadership, but as the de facto leader, he must control his own party.)
Deo adjuvante non timendum

BridgeTroll

The people do not want the current bills.  Neither of them.  Poll after poll shows that.  Chop it up and start over... from the center this time.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Then vote it in... not sure what the hold up is...  Better hurry though... the large marorities in the house and senate are likely to be a thing of the past after next election. :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

JeffreyS

Unless the ecconmy keeps moving forward and starts to take the job market with it. 
Lenny Smash

buckethead

The economy is on an uptick despite government intervention, as is always the case.

In order to quell the dissent against this healthcare bill, there'd better be more than just a chicken in every pot.

The right hates it and the left hates it. Move left and more republican obstructionism is on the way. Move right and keep the status quo. It's a conundrum for the Democrats.